The "Colony"

Johnnycat · 07-29-2009, 04:54 PM

I watched the 2nd episode last night.

I don't care what anybody says - the wood gasifier was cool.

Deersniper · 07-29-2009, 10:35 PM

Small groups will make it. Good for some ideas.

larmus · 07-30-2009, 12:32 AM

yes Johnnycat, that is an awesome invention... im going to get plans and make a small one to see if the concept is sound and if i can do it...

Cyrano · 07-30-2009, 07:57 AM

It's not a new idea by any means. During the German occupation, the Paris taxis were powered by a similar device called a gasogene engine. It produced combustible gas from smouldering wood, charcoal or peat (usually charcoal), fed it into an accumulator and thence into the low-compression automobile engines they had back then.

I'm not certain how well it would work in modern high-compression gasoline engines with all the antipollution equipment that they come with nowadays. Might do for a diesel, though. (I missed the ep where they built it.)

Pope130 · 07-30-2009, 10:13 AM

I've seen a couple of episodes now, and I can't say I'm favorably impressed.

One was the episode they were working on the wood gas fired generator. While testing the engine and generator setup they found the voltage output was low, because the generator was not turning fast enough. To solve this problem they put a smaller pulley on the engine. It worked. The problem is that a smaller engine pulley would make the generator turn slower, not faster. Clearly something isn't right. I suspect that the script called for the generator to work at that point, so it did.

The other episode was one where they went 'foraging'. They found the camp of two other survivors. They drove the survivors off with threats and pillaged their camp, taking everything they thought useful.

The show was originally presented as how normal people might survive after a major disaster, instead we find that these are the people we will need to protect ourselves from.

Robert

Dragunov · 07-30-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pope130

I've seen a couple of episodes now, and I can't say I'm favorably impressed.

One was the episode they were working on the wood gas fired generator. While testing the engine and generator setup they found the voltage output was low, because the generator was not turning fast enough. To solve this problem they put a smaller pulley on the engine. It worked. The problem is that a smaller engine pulley would make the generator turn slower, not faster. Clearly something isn't right. I suspect that the script called for the generator to work at that point, so it did.

The other episode was one where they went 'foraging'. They found the camp of two other survivors. They drove the survivors off with threats and pillaged their camp, taking everything they thought useful.

The show was originally presented as how normal people might survive after a major disaster, instead we find that these are the people we will need to protect ourselves from.

Robert

That would be easy as they have no firearms. I was impressed by the "woodgas" but the robbery of the other people trying to survive would have gotten them shot in my camp. Not to mention the "hunting party" sent out to eliminate the rest of them. I understand the idea of the show and it is a good one, but it's unrealistic. As the group I'd be trying to survive with would be three other good survivalists, a single mother and her daughter at this time. We all would be packing heat and would make short work of a group like that. A Phd won't stop a bullet.

roadie · 08-02-2009, 04:01 AM

Sorry if any of you like it, I think it stinks and is about as unrealistic as can be...they have no weapons....hello.

Dragunov · 08-05-2009, 12:47 PM

3rd episode? I guess the shower was more important than security. How come only the "common folk" (non-PhD) recognized the need for security being the first priority? Sometimes I wonder if extreme education "educates" the common sense right out of you. For all there "education" and ingenuity, they still lack basic primitive intelligence.
After robbing people last week, they were robbed this week. I found it funny! What goes around comes around.

Johnnycat · 08-05-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragunov

3rd episode? I guess the shower was more important than security. How come only the "common folk" (non-PhD) recognized the need for security being the first priority? Sometimes I wonder if extreme education "educates" the common sense right out of you. For all there "education" and ingenuity, they still lack basic primitive intelligence.
After robbing people last week, they were robbed this week. I found it funny! What goes around comes around.

Yeah - the shower was more important than security. And then the blond chick likes to make new costumes instead of finding something useful to do!

Dragunov · 08-05-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnycat

Yeah - the shower was more important than security. And then the blond chick likes to make new costumes instead of finding something useful to do!

I know I said I'd lay off this thread, but the "colonists" on this show make it painful to watch. I don't think some of them are taking it seriously. The lack of firearms is probably due to liability for the producers. Maybe they should've given them weapons with paintballs. Not as realistic but stings like the blazes on bare flesh.

Lesson I learned:

Get RID of the PhDs from the group as most of them have too much time invested in their education and not enough time invested in training their minds for survival. Result? = No survival instincts.
The one with common sense should be put in complete charge of things and if the uppities don't like it, make them leave at gunpoint.

sea_chicken1 · 08-05-2009, 08:26 PM

Thanks for the comentary. I'm glad I spent my time doing something better than getting pissed off at the colony and found primers.

Dragunov · 08-06-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sea_chicken1

Thanks for the comentary. I'm glad I spent my time doing something better than getting pissed off at the colony and found primers.

You're prolly right, I should get a life.

192ndkid · 08-06-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Metronome

yep, our regulations disallow any projectile over 600 fps, must not be lead based, require sensitivity therapy and have to be lubricated with patchouli oil...

THAT is great I got a good chuckle out that,almost made milk come out my nose

sea_chicken1 · 08-07-2009, 02:33 PM

Sorry that came out the wrong way. I was actualy gonna watch it but decided not to after reading the thread I wasent trying to be an ass.

Dragunov · 08-08-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sea_chicken1

Sorry that came out the wrong way. I was actualy gonna watch it but decided not to after reading the thread I wasent trying to be an ass.

Nah! Don't worry about it, I've stuck my foot in my mouth plenty of times.

Dan22 · 08-09-2009, 07:03 AM

My wife looked it up and the first four shows will be shown on Aug 17, starting at 8PM.

This is the first I've heard of this show but I find survival situations interesting but not always the way I think they would turn out.

scroamer65 · 08-09-2009, 09:11 PM

So far of the surivial series Jericho would be the most realistic if
not flawed. No weapons, these people are still in their own dream world
and this biker gang, to harass and not hurt is a dream and not reality.
These people, colony, previous posters have all=ready have nailed the
flaws, enough said. If you want entertinment watch.

Johnnycat · 08-12-2009, 07:55 PM

Episode 4:
At least they're taking security more seriously, but the self-defense-expect-lady is really annoying.

Also - what's up with non-lethal Claymores? Seriously - you have a warehouse full of old nails and bolts - put 'em to good use!

They get a good deal on the generator in the trade with the travelling salsman, but in my opinion lost on trading all the oranges and canned good for the two chickens. DO they have feed for the chickens? Will the chickens lay eggs in the current stressul state? That's a big gamble and I think they needed to keep the Vit C source (fresh oranges) since it's water-soluble and hard for the human body to store.

larmus · 08-13-2009, 11:12 AM

Johnnycat, they can go back to the original source for the oranges, im pretty sure they didnt grab all the oranges off those trees... and there appeared to have already been an egg in the cage with the chicken from what i saw, even though it was not addressed by the group. i do agree with you though, how are they going to feed the chicken may be let it run around the yard lookin for bugs...

GUNS!!!! finally we got to see guns, im thinking in a real world situation, "He who has the guns, makes all the decisions!" I'm pretty sure that if it was a real senerio the men would have been killed, the women, raped and traded, and all the gear would be used or traded away and the compound taken over and used as a new "fort" for whatever gang or group wanted it...

oh yeah... the handy man guy should have looked at the self defense chick and told her right then and there that if she didnt like the way things were going, then to " get her shite and get the f out" and " dont lit the door hit her were the good lord split her on the way out"... she was being a royal pain in the arse...

Rifle_Shaman · 08-15-2009, 02:47 PM

I was hoping for a lot from this show but it isnt all that great.... A flame thrower? wtf... why waste fuel make a long pointy stick, then ram it into there chest. Screw that non lethal krap, mount a few skulls on the gate and people will leave you be. But the question is " DO YOU WANNA GOTO THE MAT AND SEE HOW GOOD MY GYM IS!!!!"

07-29-2009, 04:54 PM	#21
Johnnycat Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 546	Episode II I watched the 2nd episode last night. I don't care what anybody says - the wood gasifier was cool. __________________ I reserve the right to be wrong.

07-30-2009, 12:32 AM	#23
larmus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 3,435	yes Johnnycat, that is an awesome invention... im going to get plans and make a small one to see if the concept is sound and if i can do it... __________________ Lawrence Home Defense: .45 and a Shovel...

08-02-2009, 04:01 AM	#27
roadie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,335 Blog Entries: 1	Sorry if any of you like it, I think it stinks and is about as unrealistic as can be...they have no weapons....hello. __________________ Blaming guns for violent acts is like blaming the keyboard for your poor spelling.

08-09-2009, 07:03 AM	#36
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 708	My wife looked it up and the first four shows will be shown on Aug 17, starting at 8PM. This is the first I've heard of this show but I find survival situations interesting but not always the way I think they would turn out. __________________ USAF '58-'62

08-12-2009, 07:55 PM	#38
Johnnycat Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 546	Episode 4: At least they're taking security more seriously, but the self-defense-expect-lady is really annoying. Also - what's up with non-lethal Claymores? Seriously - you have a warehouse full of old nails and bolts - put 'em to good use! They get a good deal on the generator in the trade with the travelling salsman, but in my opinion lost on trading all the oranges and canned good for the two chickens. DO they have feed for the chickens? Will the chickens lay eggs in the current stressul state? That's a big gamble and I think they needed to keep the Vit C source (fresh oranges) since it's water-soluble and hard for the human body to store. __________________ I reserve the right to be wrong.

07-29-2009, 10:35 PM	#22
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,469	Small groups will make it. Good for some ideas.

07-30-2009, 07:57 AM	#24
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 8,220	It's not a new idea by any means. During the German occupation, the Paris taxis were powered by a similar device called a gasogene engine. It produced combustible gas from smouldering wood, charcoal or peat (usually charcoal), fed it into an accumulator and thence into the low-compression automobile engines they had back then. I'm not certain how well it would work in modern high-compression gasoline engines with all the antipollution equipment that they come with nowadays. Might do for a diesel, though. (I missed the ep where they built it.)

07-30-2009, 10:13 AM	#25
Pope130 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	I've seen a couple of episodes now, and I can't say I'm favorably impressed. One was the episode they were working on the wood gas fired generator. While testing the engine and generator setup they found the voltage output was low, because the generator was not turning fast enough. To solve this problem they put a smaller pulley on the engine. It worked. The problem is that a smaller engine pulley would make the generator turn slower, not faster. Clearly something isn't right. I suspect that the script called for the generator to work at that point, so it did. The other episode was one where they went 'foraging'. They found the camp of two other survivors. They drove the survivors off with threats and pillaged their camp, taking everything they thought useful. The show was originally presented as how normal people might survive after a major disaster, instead we find that these are the people we will need to protect ourselves from. Robert

08-05-2009, 12:47 PM	#28
Dragunov Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoples Repooblik of Kaliforniastan. Posts: 1,263	3rd episode? I guess the shower was more important than security. How come only the "common folk" (non-PhD) recognized the need for security being the first priority? Sometimes I wonder if extreme education "educates" the common sense right out of you. For all there "education" and ingenuity, they still lack basic primitive intelligence. After robbing people last week, they were robbed this week. I found it funny! What goes around comes around.

08-05-2009, 08:26 PM	#31
sea_chicken1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everett WA. and Norfolk VA. Posts: 1,208	Thanks for the comentary. I'm glad I spent my time doing something better than getting pissed off at the colony and found primers.

08-07-2009, 02:33 PM	#34
sea_chicken1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everett WA. and Norfolk VA. Posts: 1,208	Sorry that came out the wrong way. I was actualy gonna watch it but decided not to after reading the thread I wasent trying to be an ass.

08-09-2009, 09:11 PM	#37
scroamer65 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 118	So far of the surivial series Jericho would be the most realistic if not flawed. No weapons, these people are still in their own dream world and this biker gang, to harass and not hurt is a dream and not reality. These people, colony, previous posters have all=ready have nailed the flaws, enough said. If you want entertinment watch.

08-13-2009, 11:12 AM	#39
larmus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 3,435	Johnnycat, they can go back to the original source for the oranges, im pretty sure they didnt grab all the oranges off those trees... and there appeared to have already been an egg in the cage with the chicken from what i saw, even though it was not addressed by the group. i do agree with you though, how are they going to feed the chicken may be let it run around the yard lookin for bugs... GUNS!!!! finally we got to see guns, im thinking in a real world situation, "He who has the guns, makes all the decisions!" I'm pretty sure that if it was a real senerio the men would have been killed, the women, raped and traded, and all the gear would be used or traded away and the compound taken over and used as a new "fort" for whatever gang or group wanted it... oh yeah... the handy man guy should have looked at the self defense chick and told her right then and there that if she didnt like the way things were going, then to " get her shite and get the f out" and " dont lit the door hit her were the good lord split her on the way out"... she was being a royal pain in the arse... __________________ Lawrence Home Defense: .45 and a Shovel... Last edited by larmus; 08-13-2009 at 11:16 AM.

08-15-2009, 02:47 PM	#40
Rifle_Shaman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North Eastern PA Posts: 237	I was hoping for a lot from this show but it isnt all that great.... A flame thrower? wtf... why waste fuel make a long pointy stick, then ram it into there chest. Screw that non lethal krap, mount a few skulls on the gate and people will leave you be. But the question is " DO YOU WANNA GOTO THE MAT AND SEE HOW GOOD MY GYM IS!!!!"