help me out guys. Got $300 to spend on a SHTF weapon...

bigandrich44 · 09-20-2009, 12:36 PM

Would an SKS be worth it?

larmus · 09-20-2009, 12:48 PM

yes...

Cyrano · 09-20-2009, 01:08 PM

I'm inclined to the Mossberg 500 Persuader rather than the Remington 870 for just one reason: the Mossberg's safety. It's much easier to manipulate than the 870's; there is no question whether it is on or off and you don't have to look at it to be sure.

That said, I'd give some thought to loading it with those half-length shells that are coming back on the market. You aren't going to be making 100 yard shots with your 12 gauge in a SHTF scenario on the way out of the city; most places, you'd be hard put to find 100 clear yards to shoot in. Using these demi-shells effectively doubles your magazine capacity for close-in work without sacrificing hitting power at those short ranges. Test them first, of course, because some shotguns don't like them. But if they'll work reliably in your shotgun, I'd go with them for an initial load-out to get you on your way out of town.

Doc Jones · 09-20-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thrillbilly

A 12G of some sort...just site it in for slugs, and carry buckshot for up close and slugs for range.

What kind of range can one get with 12G slugs?

Doc

jerry · 09-20-2009, 04:46 PM

Foster type, a solid 80-100 yards (effective/accurate)

Sabots extend that range 25-50 yards depending on the shooter.

Based on my own findings, results may vary

jerry · 09-20-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrano

I'm inclined to the Mossberg 500 Persuader rather than the Remington 870 for just one reason: the Mossberg's safety. It's much easier to manipulate than the 870's; there is no question whether it is on or off and you don't have to look at it to be sure.
That said, I'd give some thought to loading it with those half-length shells that are coming back on the market. You aren't going to be making 100 yard shots with your 12 gauge in a SHTF scenario on the way out of the city; most places, you'd be hard put to find 100 clear yards to shoot in. Using these demi-shells effectively doubles your magazine capacity for close-in work without sacrificing hitting power at those short ranges. Test them first, of course, because some shotguns don't like them. But if they'll work reliably in your shotgun, I'd go with them for an initial load-out to get you on your way out of town.

My 870 won't feed the minis. Iv'e heard that the Winchester 1300 does a decent job. Not sure about the mossy.

Lobo0311 · 09-20-2009, 04:47 PM

While my first choice would probably be either of the shotguns, I would also recommend the SKS, I have a Winchester 1200, AND an SKS and I'm in the process of getting my fiance to be more adept with ALL my guns so in the event the need arises she can fire anything in my small (but effective) arsenal.

jerry · 09-20-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 338RUM

Ok rambo!!! Lol

More like the Dukes of Hazzard

Ted Nugent is outspoken about just about everything but that's not the only reason for a second interview. I am sure he could easily fill up a book with his knowledge, thoughts and opinions. And most are right on target. However, Ted will appear in an upcoming movie with country superstar Toby Keith. In the movie Ted plays a law officer that has a bow & arrow and isn't afraid to use it.

Howard Hill did some archery work on the "Robin Hood" movie starring Erroll Flynn. The Burt Reynolds movie Deliverance featured Reynolds shooting a Bear recurve. The Dukes of Hazzard also featured archery on their weekly TV show in the 1970's. I can also remember the buzz about archery that the movie "RAMBO: First Blood II" created. My father was a Hoyt dealer and we sold over 600 Hoyt bows that year. We even hung a Hoyt Rambo in the lobby of the local movie theater along with an Addington's sign. A few years ago one of the Charlie's Angels movies featured archery.

http://www.tednugent.com/hunting/new...?PostID=532511

Dragunov · 09-20-2009, 06:11 PM

If you can even find an SKS for $300 (rare) Get that. Better range than a 12gauge and ammo is lighter (you can carry more of it).

bigandrich44 · 09-20-2009, 06:15 PM

what about a used saiga? What caliber of saiga would be good for me?

gunnut2u · 09-20-2009, 06:21 PM

SKS ;
fold down pistol grip -close quarters
30 round clip -no shortage of ammo
and bauyonet -If you run out if ammo,you still have a knife and club to use !!

larmus · 09-20-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobo0311

While my first choice would probably be either of the shotguns, I would also recommend the SKS, I have a Winchester 1200, AND an SKS and I'm in the process of getting my fiance to be more adept with ALL my guns so in the event the need arises she can fire anything in my small (but effective) arsenal.

haha, buddy becareful, i let my wife shot my AR and guess what, i had to go buy another rifle cause she said the AR is hers now... sigh... women

gotta love 'em!

bigandrich44 · 09-20-2009, 06:49 PM

Im starting to think either a saiga in 12guage, or a mossberg persuader in 12guage is gonna be my choice. I don't need to shoot over 100 yards, as this will be a defensive weapon. And if I need to shoot over 100 yards, i have multiple rifles at the house.

jrswanson1 · 09-21-2009, 08:46 AM

Since you already have an 870, get a tube extender, as you can remove it if you don't need it later, and get a Knoxx recoil reducing stock with pistol grip. If you're getting out of a city, you really aren't swinging the shotgun on birds, the stock makes quick follow up shots easy, especially with buck/slugs, and you can use the leftover money for ammo.

Jim

Lobo0311 · 09-21-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by larmus

haha, buddy becareful, i let my wife shot my AR and guess what, i had to go buy another rifle cause she said the AR is hers now... sigh... women

gotta love 'em!

See that my secret weapon...any excuse for another gun...

dont tell her that though.....lol

Lobo0311 · 09-21-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jrswanson1

Since you already have an 870, get a tube extender, as you can remove it if you don't need it later, and get a Knoxx recoil reducing stock with pistol grip. If you're getting out of a city, you really aren't swinging the shotgun on birds, the stock makes quick follow up shots easy, especially with buck/slugs, and you can use the leftover money for ammo.

Jim

I have a Knoxx stock on my Win 1200, Love that stock

CrazyIvan · 09-21-2009, 08:50 PM

i will say this. in an urban environment, a military-style rifle would be better. out in the sticks, you might go for a good .22lr rifle. Marlin's 70P and 70PSS are nice, and you can take the barrel off for easier transport. I bought a used .22lr Marlin 70P like 3 years ago for $80. I actually bought it for a friend of mine. Then, he never used it and gave it back to me about 2 or 3 weeks ago. It is a good quality rifle, ammo is cheap and light. It has nice iron sites, and can support a good scope. It is pretty nice:

LakerDad · 09-21-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bigandrich44

what about a used saiga? What caliber of saiga would be good for me?

I like the Saiga .308, last year my friend got his for around $400. I have seen some CETME's for $450 and up. Either one might be out there, where someone is trying to "get rid" of theirs. The .308 {7.62 x 51} is pretty awesome. GOOD Luck...

.22guy · 09-22-2009, 04:26 PM

Saiga or SKS.

bigb831 · 09-22-2009, 06:02 PM

u should get 2 mosins and alot of ammo. 1 91/30 for long range and1 m44 for closrange so u can use the bayo.

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09-20-2009, 04:47 PM	#27
Lobo0311 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northeast Kansas Posts: 633	While my first choice would probably be either of the shotguns, I would also recommend the SKS, I have a Winchester 1200, AND an SKS and I'm in the process of getting my fiance to be more adept with ALL my guns so in the event the need arises she can fire anything in my small (but effective) arsenal. __________________ If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?

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09-20-2009, 06:21 PM	#31
gunnut2u Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Missouri-firearms,USA Posts: 986	SKS ; fold down pistol grip -close quarters 30 round clip -no shortage of ammo and bauyonet -If you run out if ammo,you still have a knife and club to use !! __________________ I might not be playing with a full deck... But I am playing with a full clip!!! (gunnut2u)

09-20-2009, 01:08 PM	#23
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 6,936	I'm inclined to the Mossberg 500 Persuader rather than the Remington 870 for just one reason: the Mossberg's safety. It's much easier to manipulate than the 870's; there is no question whether it is on or off and you don't have to look at it to be sure. That said, I'd give some thought to loading it with those half-length shells that are coming back on the market. You aren't going to be making 100 yard shots with your 12 gauge in a SHTF scenario on the way out of the city; most places, you'd be hard put to find 100 clear yards to shoot in. Using these demi-shells effectively doubles your magazine capacity for close-in work without sacrificing hitting power at those short ranges. Test them first, of course, because some shotguns don't like them. But if they'll work reliably in your shotgun, I'd go with them for an initial load-out to get you on your way out of town.

09-20-2009, 04:46 PM	#25
jerry Short Time Shirt Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 13,229 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Foster type, a solid 80-100 yards (effective/accurate) Sabots extend that range 25-50 yards depending on the shooter. Based on my own findings, results may vary

09-20-2009, 06:11 PM	#29
Dragunov Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoples Repooblik of Kaliforniastan. Posts: 609	If you can even find an SKS for $300 (rare) Get that. Better range than a 12gauge and ammo is lighter (you can carry more of it).

09-20-2009, 06:49 PM	#33
bigandrich44 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,034	Im starting to think either a saiga in 12guage, or a mossberg persuader in 12guage is gonna be my choice. I don't need to shoot over 100 yards, as this will be a defensive weapon. And if I need to shoot over 100 yards, i have multiple rifles at the house. __________________ http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1...eehobosig9.png

09-21-2009, 08:46 AM	#34
jrswanson1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,098	Since you already have an 870, get a tube extender, as you can remove it if you don't need it later, and get a Knoxx recoil reducing stock with pistol grip. If you're getting out of a city, you really aren't swinging the shotgun on birds, the stock makes quick follow up shots easy, especially with buck/slugs, and you can use the leftover money for ammo. Jim

09-21-2009, 08:50 PM	#37
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 3,413 Blog Entries: 1	i will say this. in an urban environment, a military-style rifle would be better. out in the sticks, you might go for a good .22lr rifle. Marlin's 70P and 70PSS are nice, and you can take the barrel off for easier transport. I bought a used .22lr Marlin 70P like 3 years ago for $80. I actually bought it for a friend of mine. Then, he never used it and gave it back to me about 2 or 3 weeks ago. It is a good quality rifle, ammo is cheap and light. It has nice iron sites, and can support a good scope. It is pretty nice: __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me Last edited by CrazyIvan; 09-21-2009 at 08:58 PM.

09-22-2009, 04:26 PM	#39
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,221	Saiga or SKS. __________________ My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban as soon as I take office.

09-22-2009, 06:02 PM	#40
bigb831 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: wisconsin Posts: 78	u should get 2 mosins and alot of ammo. 1 91/30 for long range and1 m44 for closrange so u can use the bayo.