Gunfight Rules and Factualisms

sea_chicken1 · 10-19-2009, 10:43 PM

.15 goes for knife fighting too. After I learned the proper way to use a knife through martial arts I never wanna have to fight with it.

ArkansasHunter · 10-20-2009, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sea_chicken1

.15 goes for knife fighting too. After I learned the proper way to use a knife through martial arts I never wanna have to fight with it.

Shew Wee I hope I never am in a knife fight...I'd run for my life and if the bad guy with the knife started chaseing me I could only hope he's a 2 pack a day smoker and fags out before I do...A.H

thrillbilly · 10-20-2009, 01:34 AM

My rule #2...he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day. LOL or as the marines say "we're not retreating...we're advancing to the rear, double time!"

338RUM · 10-20-2009, 02:01 AM

there is nothing wrong with advancing to the rear when out numbered or out gunned.

ShellShock · 10-20-2009, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by privateer

16. Dont look at shooting the bad guy as a moral issue, think of it as Bad Gene Pool Deletion.

Exactly.

I view shooting bad guys as follows; If I have to shoot you to protect myself, my home, or my family:

1.) My life is more valuable to me than yours will ever be.

2.) If you're kickin' in my door, my bullets are going to kick in your sternum.

3.) You can't run 1000 FPS, but I've got several angry minions that can.

4.) For all intents and purposes, the moment you step foot in my house, I become your god.**

5.) Ohio castle laws allow me to be judge, jury, and executioner. Enough said.

** (Exodus 22:2-3), (Romans 13:4), (Exodus 21:24-25)

338RUM · 10-20-2009, 02:26 AM

I like the way you think ShellShock!

samuel · 10-20-2009, 08:18 AM

Iwould do this,,,and then that and to back it up,more yet of the same,,,and maybe more yet!!! That'll get them!!! ,,,sam.

Lobo0311 · 10-20-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sea_chicken1

.15 goes for knife fighting too. After I learned the proper way to use a knife through martial arts I never wanna have to fight with it.

The first rule of knife fighting........... BRING A GUN!!!!!!!

ArkansasHunter · 10-20-2009, 12:11 PM

If some dumb arse was to pull a knife on me I'd shoot him/her between the eyes.
I figure if someone were to do something like that they intend to use it.
I may be phobic but I'm not gonna let anyone but a doctor cut on me.
You would think bad people would wise up and relize lot's of folks are carrying a concealed handgun...A.H

Dragunov · 10-20-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sea_chicken1

.15 goes for knife fighting too. After I learned the proper way to use a knife through martial arts I never wanna have to fight with it.

Part of my job is to teach knife combatives to Military personell. If you're competent with it, it will become part of you. If I'm in a life and death struggle and no firearm, I will not HESITATE to use it. I have combat veterans from Iraq on the base right now who are clamoring to get in to my class as they've seen how effective it is. Those who've learned it have given me nothing short of superb feedback on it. Knives save lives in Iraq!

Don't sell a knife short, it's your last line of defense!

If you can't use it properly, it will get you killed!

TACAV · 10-20-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven©

aka Rule #2: Double tap

Shouldn't that be Rule #1: Cardio

Everything I need to know about fights, I learned from Zombieland.

lol

samuel · 10-20-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragunov

Part of my job is to teach knife combativesto Military personell. If you're competent with it, it will become part of you. If I'm in a life and death struggle and no firearm, I will not HESITATE to use it. I have combat veterans from Iraq on the base right now who are clamoring to get in to my class as they've seen how effective it is. Those who've learned it have given me nothing short of superb feedback on it. Knives save lives in Iraq!

Don't sell a knife short, it's your last line of defense!

If you can't use it properly, it will get you killed!

Are you in the military? ,,,sam.

Dragunov · 10-20-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by samuel

Are you in the military? ,,,sam.

I'm a full time DoD civilian instructor for the U.S.M.C , Army, National Guard and occasionally, Navy. Too old and cantankerous to be in the military now.

Dragunov · 10-20-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellShock

Exactly.

I view shooting bad guys as follows; If I have to shoot you to protect myself, my home, or my family:

1.) My life is more valuable to me than yours will ever be.

2.) If you're kickin' in my door, my bullets are going to kick in your sternum.

3.) You can't run 1000 FPS, but I've got several angry minions that can.

4.) For all intents and purposes, the moment you step foot in my house, I become your god.**

5.) Ohio castle laws allow me to be judge, jury, and executioner. Enough said.

** (Exodus 22:2-3), (Romans 13:4), (Exodus 21:24-25)

I'm going to print this out and paste it on my front door. Bravo!!

HEMI · 10-20-2009, 07:38 PM

The castle law does no such thing.A judge might disagree.
Posting bible verses while talking about killing someone
is wrong in my opinion.

YugoM59/66 · 10-20-2009, 11:28 PM

dragunov, where you stationed at brother. i have basic basic knife techniques from what the teach us(Marine Infantry) and i want nothing to do with a knife fight. i by know means am an expert and there's too many ways for that knife to get turned around on you, although when i was over there i always carried my ka bar everywhere. thank God i never needed it but there was a few night patrols where dogs would start coming at us and i had my rifle slung and my ka bar in hand.

Dragunov · 10-21-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by YugoM59/66

dragunov, where you stationed at brother. i have basic basic knife techniques from what the teach us(Marine Infantry) and i want nothing to do with a knife fight. i by know means am an expert and there's too many ways for that knife to get turned around on you, although when i was over there i always carried my ka bar everywhere. thank God i never needed it but there was a few night patrols where dogs would start coming at us and i had my rifle slung and my ka bar in hand.

I'm stationed in Sacramento. I'm from the Cincinnati area though. Wow, Hmmmm, I don't know what to tell you..... Marines, Hmmm.

I can tell you this, as good as the K-bar is, I don't recomment it for the type of combatives I teach. You need a knife with an asymetrical handle. A good example is a Buck Nighthawk. The reason being that without looking, by feel only, you have to know where the sharp edge of the blade is at all times. That is very hard to do with a symetrical (round) handle.

Most martial arts and military teach to hold the knife with the crotch of your thumb/index finger near the hilt so the blade sticks out. In the same manner you cut meat, or use a hammer. This is a serious error and will get you disarmed or killed in short order. You should only fight with the knife pointing in the rear position. (in the same manner as you'd use to stick it in a table or something, think hammerfist).

You need to keep it sharpened at a 30 degree angle and razor sharp. I need to get off here right now as my wife needs the computer. I'll talk to you more about it tomorrow, ok?

I'll tell you what, PM me a phone# I can reach you at between 1000 and 1800 your time.
I can call you from work being that it's military business and is directly related to my job, ok??

Archetype_wyo · 10-21-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HEMI

The castle law does no such thing.A judge might disagree.
Posting bible verses while talking about killing someone
is wrong in my opinion.

Funny how thats exactly what it says but worded a bit differently. As for using Bible verses when talking about killing? They were talking about defense. If someone physically threatens your life its your humanly duty to protect yourself and turn the table and threaten theirs.

Castle Doctrine (Castle Law; Make My Day Law)
Castle Doctrine in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Justifieable Homicide
Justifiable homicide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As Bas Ruten once said "He try to kill me...I'm going to return the favor."

Lobo0311 · 10-21-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Archetype_wyo

Funny how thats exactly what it says but worded a bit differently. As for using Bible verses when talking about killing? They were talking about defense. If someone physically threatens your life its your humanly duty to protect yourself and turn the table and threaten theirs.

Castle Doctrine (Castle Law; Make My Day Law)
Castle Doctrine in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Justifieable Homicide
Justifiable homicide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As Bas Ruten once said "He try to kill me...I'm going to return the favor."

+100, it comes from the idea that a man's (or womans) house is their castle, to the best of my knowledge even in states without a "castle doctrine" if someone breaks in and you kill them ,the law's on your side. That does'nt mean you can't get sued for wrongful death, just that chances are you won't face criminal prosecution. That's how people like Massad Ayoob get called upon as expert witnesses, not only to testify of behalf of a LEO but also for the average Joe citizen. The best thing you can do is know the law in your state, in some places they just have to be on your property (i.e in a barn or other out building on your ranch/farm NOT just in your yard) in others they MUST be inside the house.

testhop · 10-21-2009, 09:07 PM

#17 make sure to win.
shoot them in the eye it spoils there aim

10-20-2009, 01:34 AM	#23
thrillbilly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ozark Hill Country Posts: 2,611	My rule #2...he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day. LOL or as the marines say "we're not retreating...we're advancing to the rear, double time!" __________________ *" I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on."* John Wayne

10-20-2009, 02:01 AM	#24
338RUM Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lonaconing, MD Posts: 1,025	there is nothing wrong with advancing to the rear when out numbered or out gunned. __________________ diaper fetishist, gay ,neo Nazi ,slaves give me hope for the versatility of the human race. -Billy

10-20-2009, 02:26 AM	#26
338RUM Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lonaconing, MD Posts: 1,025	I like the way you think ShellShock! __________________ diaper fetishist, gay ,neo Nazi ,slaves give me hope for the versatility of the human race. -Billy

10-20-2009, 12:11 PM	#29
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,211	If some dumb arse was to pull a knife on me I'd shoot him/her between the eyes. I figure if someone were to do something like that they intend to use it. I may be phobic but I'm not gonna let anyone but a doctor cut on me. You would think bad people would wise up and relize lot's of folks are carrying a concealed handgun...A.H __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

10-20-2009, 11:28 PM	#36
YugoM59/66 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 207	dragunov, where you stationed at brother. i have basic basic knife techniques from what the teach us(Marine Infantry) and i want nothing to do with a knife fight. i by know means am an expert and there's too many ways for that knife to get turned around on you, although when i was over there i always carried my ka bar everywhere. thank God i never needed it but there was a few night patrols where dogs would start coming at us and i had my rifle slung and my ka bar in hand. __________________ "Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." Ned Dolan

10-19-2009, 10:43 PM	#21
sea_chicken1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everett WA. and Norfolk VA. Posts: 1,017	.15 goes for knife fighting too. After I learned the proper way to use a knife through martial arts I never wanna have to fight with it.

10-20-2009, 08:18 AM	#27
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 10,911	Iwould do this,,,and then that and to back it up,more yet of the same,,,and maybe more yet!!! That'll get them!!! ,,,sam.

10-20-2009, 07:38 PM	#35
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,178	The castle law does no such thing.A judge might disagree. Posting bible verses while talking about killing someone is wrong in my opinion.

10-21-2009, 09:07 PM	#40
testhop Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 196	#17 make sure to win. shoot them in the eye it spoils there aim __________________ A LOADED GUN IN THE HAND IS BETTER THAN A COP ON THE PHONE HOW DO YOU LIKE THE GREAT CHANGE?