Gunfight Rules and Factualisms

privateer · 10-18-2009, 03:30 PM

1. Bring a gun. Preferably bring at least two guns and bring all of your friends who have guns.

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.

3. Only hits count. the only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.

4. To shoot fast is fine, To shoot accurate is finer.

5. Move away from your attacker, Distance is your friend.

6. If you are not shooting you should be moving - communicating - Reloading.

7. Someday, Someone may kill you with your own weapon, But they should have to beat you to death with it becouse it is empty.

8. People shoot at you becouse they see you. If you can see them they can see you, find cover.

9. Always cheat Always win.

10. Watch their hands, Hands Kill. In God we trust , Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them.

11. Be Polite. Be Professional. Butt .. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

12. The fight won't be what you wanted or expected it just is what it is.

13. I shot it 7 times becouse the fist 6 didn't stop it from trying to kill me.

14. When your flashlight drops it will always point at you.

15. Your number one option for personal safety is a commitment to avoidance, deterrence and de-escalation.

16. Dont look at shooting the bad guy as a moral issue, think of it as Bad Gene Pool Deletion.

John.

larmus · 10-18-2009, 03:35 PM

thats a list to live by... thanks privateer!

Windwalker · 10-18-2009, 03:52 PM

Very good list. Thanks for the post, John.

SwedeSteve · 10-18-2009, 06:50 PM

Good one John !!

sea_chicken1 · 10-18-2009, 07:06 PM

Good list there, should always keep cover, shoot, move ,communicate if nothing else that will keep you wheels going.

SightNSqueeze · 10-18-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

1. Bring a gun. Preferably bring at least two guns and bring all of your friends who have guns.

6. If you are not shooting you should be moving - communicating - Reloading.

John.

Number 6 is the toughest to get through to law enforcement officers who take the tactical course at the academy. I like the dropped flashlight rule too. You'll never know how much truth there is to that one.

TACAV · 10-18-2009, 08:00 PM

Dont forget the difference between cover and concealment one either.

Both might obscure the enemy's view of you, but only one may stop incoming rounds.

gunnut2u · 10-18-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SightNSqueeze

I like the dropped flashlight rule too. You'll never know how much truth there is to that one.

I use a flash light all the time ............I'm gonna test out that theory ....!

G. Green · 10-18-2009, 09:10 PM

15.a. The more you know about gun fighting the less you want to do it.

Seven© · 10-18-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.

aka Rule #2: Double tap

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Originally Posted by privateer

5. Move away from your attacker, Distance is your friend.

Shouldn't that be Rule #1: Cardio

Everything I need to know about fights, I learned from Zombieland.

texnmidwest · 10-18-2009, 09:49 PM

Those are great rules! Avoid, de escalate....best advice of all. The best fight to be in is the one that was avoided!

thrillbilly · 10-18-2009, 10:24 PM

My rule #1....long distance, scoped rifle, concealed "hide", equals NO Gunfight. LOL

HEMI · 10-18-2009, 10:54 PM

You bet Tex!! The best weapon we have is the one between our ears.

Mike U. · 10-19-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HEMI

You bet Tex!! The best weapon we have is the one between our ears.

Yeah, but it's hard as
hell to shoot with.

Great list. Copied and stapled to my forehead.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 10-19-2009, 03:06 AM

Thats what was always drilled into me. Its nice to have a refresher.

ArkansasHunter · 10-19-2009, 03:08 AM

I hope I have my sawed off shotgun if I'm put in a situation to where I have to shoot someone.
I'd prolly be shakeing so hard I'd need better odds hitting the Perp.
Thats a terrible thought...But I could do it...A.H

SightNSqueeze · 10-19-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by thrillbilly

My rule #1....long distance, scoped rifle, concealed "hide", equals NO Gunfight. LOL

LOL, yeah, sounds more like a fond desire than a rule, especially "after" the shooting starts. All I had was an M9 service pistol when I was in Iraq. I liked to imagine that it would turn into something bigger, if and when a fight commenced.

SightNSqueeze · 10-19-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

I hope I have my sawed off shotgun if I'm put in a situation to where I have to shoot someone.
I'd prolly be shakeing so hard I'd need better odds hitting the Perp.
Thats a terrible thought...But I could do it...A.H

That's O.K., he'd probably be shaking so hard you might have to call him an ambulance before you even had a chance to shoot ...

338RUM · 10-19-2009, 11:44 AM

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aka Rule #2: Double tap

Shouldn't that be Rule #1: Cardio

Everything I need to know about fights, I learned from Zombieland.

Rule # 3: safety first

Rule # 32: enjoy the little things (like Twinkies)

woody1981 · 10-19-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

Those are great rules! Avoid, de escalate....best advice of all. The best fight to be in is the one that was avoided!

Amen, brother! I've read lots of articles by 1st-class law enforcement officials and personal defense trainers. This is one of the first things that they pound into you--avoid, avoid, unless you can't.

10-18-2009, 03:52 PM	#3
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 6,100	Very good list. Thanks for the post, John. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it In God I Trust

10-18-2009, 06:50 PM	#4
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,576 Images: 1	Good one John !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

10-18-2009, 08:00 PM	#7
TACAV Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,538	Dont forget the difference between cover and concealment one either. Both might obscure the enemy's view of you, but only one may stop incoming rounds. __________________ Zombies don't hold grudges, discriminate, or negotiate- Neither should you. -The Zen of Zombie-

10-18-2009, 09:49 PM	#11
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,978	Those are great rules! Avoid, de escalate....best advice of all. The best fight to be in is the one that was avoided! __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

10-18-2009, 10:24 PM	#12
thrillbilly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ozark Hill Country Posts: 2,611	My rule #1....long distance, scoped rifle, concealed "hide", equals NO Gunfight. LOL __________________ *" I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on."* John Wayne

10-18-2009, 03:30 PM	#1
privateer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Anchorage , Alaska Posts: 882	Gunfight Rules and Factualisms 1. Bring a gun. Preferably bring at least two guns and bring all of your friends who have guns. 2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. 3. Only hits count. the only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss. 4. To shoot fast is fine, To shoot accurate is finer. 5. Move away from your attacker, Distance is your friend. 6. If you are not shooting you should be moving - communicating - Reloading. 7. Someday, Someone may kill you with your own weapon, But they should have to beat you to death with it becouse it is empty. 8. People shoot at you becouse they see you. If you can see them they can see you, find cover. 9. Always cheat Always win. 10. Watch their hands, Hands Kill. In God we trust , Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them. 11. Be Polite. Be Professional. Butt .. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet. 12. The fight won't be what you wanted or expected it just is what it is. 13. I shot it 7 times becouse the fist 6 didn't stop it from trying to kill me. 14. When your flashlight drops it will always point at you. 15. Your number one option for personal safety is a commitment to avoidance, deterrence and de-escalation. 16. Dont look at shooting the bad guy as a moral issue, think of it as Bad Gene Pool Deletion. John.

10-18-2009, 03:35 PM	#2
larmus Domestic Engineer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 3,159 Images: 6	thats a list to live by... thanks privateer! __________________ Lawrence Home Defense: .45 and a Shovel...

10-18-2009, 07:06 PM	#5
sea_chicken1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everett WA. and Norfolk VA. Posts: 1,017	Good list there, should always keep cover, shoot, move ,communicate if nothing else that will keep you wheels going.

10-18-2009, 09:10 PM	#9
G. Green Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NE OK Posts: 464	15.a. The more you know about gun fighting the less you want to do it.

10-18-2009, 10:54 PM	#13
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,180	You bet Tex!! The best weapon we have is the one between our ears.

10-19-2009, 03:06 AM	#15
Capt'n Mil Coll Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 3,391 Images: 45	Thats what was always drilled into me. Its nice to have a refresher. __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens!

10-19-2009, 03:08 AM	#16
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,218	I hope I have my sawed off shotgun if I'm put in a situation to where I have to shoot someone. I'd prolly be shakeing so hard I'd need better odds hitting the Perp. Thats a terrible thought...But I could do it...A.H __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER