Shtf weapon choice

BudW · 10-30-2009, 10:01 PM

Which one would you choose between theses 2 weapons

http://www.gunpundit.com/wp-content/...ini14-20cf.jpg

Ak 47 bulgarian image by Stottman on Photobucket

This would be a weapon you carry in you ride for self defense in a shtf situation.

jrswanson1 · 10-30-2009, 10:57 PM

Mini-14. I don't care what people say, they may not be super accurate, but when I pull the trigger it goes bang every time. My next one will be in 6.8 SPC.

Jim

Metronome · 10-30-2009, 11:26 PM

If I had to shoose between those two guns, it would be the Ruger. A little too much of an attention getter in my book, but I would trust it just fine.

wideym · 10-31-2009, 01:06 AM

Both are excellent choises with many of the same attributes (decent accuracy, super reliable, common ammo), but I would go with the AK.

The AK has a more menacing appearance (great for keeping sheeple at a distance), cheaper start up cost with lower priced mags and ammo, easier to repair in the field/parts swap out with out much of a problem, and wider assortment/cheaper upgrades.

iflylow74 · 10-31-2009, 01:17 AM

I would choose the Ak. I had a Mini 14 once and it was an o.k. weapon. But the AK has the price advantage, and the AK is a tried and true design built for the battlefield.

Ninja Piper · 10-31-2009, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iflylow74

I would choose the Ak. I had a Mini 14 once and it was an o.k. weapon. But the AK has the price advantage, and the AK is a tried and true design built for the battlefield.

I agree... There is something to be said about how popular it is on battlefields all over the world.

Billyz · 10-31-2009, 03:02 AM

When the shit hits the fan at my house I call in the WIFE

Billyz · 10-31-2009, 03:02 AM

Scares everybody away.

Billyz · 10-31-2009, 03:03 AM

ruger

deadzero · 10-31-2009, 07:46 AM

I sold my mini, but kept my AK. And my AK is a .223 chamber. A Norinco underfolder.

larmus · 10-31-2009, 10:11 AM

haveing shot both weapons... advantage AK, its simple numbers... there are more of them out there, they are coming back down to a better price again, ammo is fairly cheap, more parts and add ons then carter has liver pills, and there's a very good reason why it is the most widely used rifle on the battle feild today... its one ruged MF...from sand to snow it wont fail.

Dragunov · 10-31-2009, 01:46 PM

Due to cost and accuracy issues, neither. I'll take a Saiga or an SKS anytime.

Pulling a trigger and going "BANG" is not enough, you need to be able to hit something at a reasonable distance. If I had to choose between just those two? AK. I had a Mini. Very reliable, couldn't hit a barn if you were inside of it. I got rid of it.

SwedeSteve · 10-31-2009, 02:22 PM

AK for sure.

Jon1911 · 10-31-2009, 02:23 PM

Ak

wolverines!

Seven© · 10-31-2009, 03:59 PM

Ten Man · 10-31-2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BudW

Which one would you choose between theses 2 weapons

http://www.gunpundit.com/wp-content/...ini14-20cf.jpg

Ak 47 bulgarian image by Stottman on Photobucket

This would be a weapon you carry in you ride for self defense in a shtf situation.

No contest!

AK!

I had three mini 14s and two mini 30s. I sold them all and bought AKs.

The Ruger Minis are nice plinking toys, but they are NOT battle guns.

TACAV · 11-01-2009, 01:12 AM

AK, For a .223 platform the Ruger has magazine problems and is inaccurate.

No need to mock the accuracy with an AK...

The AK is more than adequate accuracy wise 150-200 yards and in is sufficient in caliber size (assuming 762x39) to stop man for defense or a deer for food better than a .223 would). Parts are common and there are many upgrades available for rail systems etc.

ALso consider that most civilian defensive rifle shootings while no where near as common as handguns are pretty much all under 50 yards which makes this an even smaller point.

An AK wont be as MOA accurate as a good AR15 but again its more than adequate for the range you would be shooting at in any SHTF situation that I can think of. If you have to make a 300 yard shot why not just go around the trouble and avoid it.

Besides the Ruger Mini 14's accuracy deficiencies are just as well known when comparing it to other .223 rifles.

I know I could roll down a wet dirty, rocky hill with my AK and land in a muddy creekbed and I know it would still work.

tappedandtagged · 11-01-2009, 01:28 AM

I'd personally go for a 12 gauge as it's much more versatile. However, of those two, I'd take the AK given that ammo is readily available for it. If SHTF, you're supplies may run out. Choose the gun that you think will be most readily available for in a barter/trade situation in a long term SHTF event.

gunadvocate · 11-01-2009, 11:37 AM

srt 10 jimbo · 11-01-2009, 03:45 PM

AK,Just cause I can clean it alot faster then a Mini.I would also rather have the 7.62x39 round cause I can get em so cheap.

10-30-2009, 10:01 PM	#1
BudW Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 389	Shtf weapon choice Which one would you choose between theses 2 weapons http://www.gunpundit.com/wp-content/...ini14-20cf.jpg Ak 47 bulgarian image by Stottman on Photobucket This would be a weapon you carry in you ride for self defense in a shtf situation.

10-30-2009, 11:26 PM	#3
Metronome Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 951	If I had to shoose between those two guns, it would be the Ruger. A little too much of an attention getter in my book, but I would trust it just fine. __________________ I take my coffee how I take my women: bitter and overbearing.

10-31-2009, 01:17 AM	#5
iflylow74 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Arkansaw Posts: 1,439 Blog Entries: 11	I would choose the Ak. I had a Mini 14 once and it was an o.k. weapon. But the AK has the price advantage, and the AK is a tried and true design built for the battlefield. __________________ Regnant Populi, Nemo me impune lacessit

10-31-2009, 03:02 AM	#7
Billyz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 241	When the shit hits the fan at my house I call in the WIFE __________________ COG #47

10-31-2009, 03:02 AM	#8
Billyz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 241	Scares everybody away. __________________ COG #47

10-30-2009, 10:57 PM	#2
jrswanson1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,093	Mini-14. I don't care what people say, they may not be super accurate, but when I pull the trigger it goes bang every time. My next one will be in 6.8 SPC. Jim

10-31-2009, 01:06 AM	#4
wideym Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma/Arkansas border Posts: 117	Both are excellent choises with many of the same attributes (decent accuracy, super reliable, common ammo), but I would go with the AK. The AK has a more menacing appearance (great for keeping sheeple at a distance), cheaper start up cost with lower priced mags and ammo, easier to repair in the field/parts swap out with out much of a problem, and wider assortment/cheaper upgrades.

10-31-2009, 03:03 AM	#9
Billyz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 241	ruger __________________ COG #47

10-31-2009, 07:46 AM	#10
deadzero Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: deep in the swamps SC Posts: 1,199	I sold my mini, but kept my AK. And my AK is a .223 chamber. A Norinco underfolder. __________________ If I need more than 1 shot, I need more practice.

10-31-2009, 10:11 AM	#11
larmus Domestic Engineer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 3,159 Images: 6	haveing shot both weapons... advantage AK, its simple numbers... there are more of them out there, they are coming back down to a better price again, ammo is fairly cheap, more parts and add ons then carter has liver pills, and there's a very good reason why it is the most widely used rifle on the battle feild today... its one ruged MF...from sand to snow it wont fail. __________________ Lawrence Home Defense: .45 and a Shovel...

10-31-2009, 01:46 PM	#12
Dragunov Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoples Repooblik of Kaliforniastan. Posts: 608	Due to cost and accuracy issues, neither. I'll take a Saiga or an SKS anytime. Pulling a trigger and going "BANG" is not enough, you need to be able to hit something at a reasonable distance. If I had to choose between just those two? AK. I had a Mini. Very reliable, couldn't hit a barn if you were inside of it. I got rid of it. Last edited by Dragunov; 10-31-2009 at 01:49 PM.

10-31-2009, 02:22 PM	#13
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,549 Images: 1	AK for sure. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

10-31-2009, 02:23 PM	#14
Jon1911 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6	Ak wolverines!

10-31-2009, 03:59 PM	#15
Seven© Exalted Grand PooBah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WNC Posts: 1,828 Images: 23 Blog Entries: 2	ak __________________

11-01-2009, 01:12 AM	#17
TACAV Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,537	AK, For a .223 platform the Ruger has magazine problems and is inaccurate. No need to mock the accuracy with an AK... The AK is more than adequate accuracy wise 150-200 yards and in is sufficient in caliber size (assuming 762x39) to stop man for defense or a deer for food better than a .223 would). Parts are common and there are many upgrades available for rail systems etc. ALso consider that most civilian defensive rifle shootings while no where near as common as handguns are pretty much all under 50 yards which makes this an even smaller point. An AK wont be as MOA accurate as a good AR15 but again its more than adequate for the range you would be shooting at in any SHTF situation that I can think of. If you have to make a 300 yard shot why not just go around the trouble and avoid it. Besides the Ruger Mini 14's accuracy deficiencies are just as well known when comparing it to other .223 rifles. I know I could roll down a wet dirty, rocky hill with my AK and land in a muddy creekbed and I know it would still work. __________________ Zombies don't hold grudges, discriminate, or negotiate- Neither should you. -The Zen of Zombie-

11-01-2009, 11:37 AM	#19
gunadvocate Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Posts: 272	Ak __________________ "Love my country, fear my government..."

11-01-2009, 01:28 AM	#18
tappedandtagged Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southwest Arkansas Posts: 840 Blog Entries: 1	I'd personally go for a 12 gauge as it's much more versatile. However, of those two, I'd take the AK given that ammo is readily available for it. If SHTF, you're supplies may run out. Choose the gun that you think will be most readily available for in a barter/trade situation in a long term SHTF event.

11-01-2009, 03:45 PM	#20
srt 10 jimbo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 295	AK,Just cause I can clean it alot faster then a Mini.I would also rather have the 7.62x39 round cause I can get em so cheap. __________________