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Old 08-28-2007, 12:41 PM   #41
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Good point Idaho Dave but remember, while it is highly UNLIKELY a SHTF situ will last more than a few months at best. Your seed stash is most likely of hybridized seed which will not normally propagate from seed havesting of your crops. Might I suggest you investigate heirloom varieties (non hybrid) that may be vacuum packed and stored long term.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:00 PM   #42
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Here is just a thought for you all. We have food storage and supplies like many of you do, we live in a place where there is plentiful game and wild food sources, but each spring when plant our garden we buy lots of extra seeds that I store in sealed bags. Everything from corn, tomatoes, peas radishes, carrots and squashes. of coures we live in BFE idaho with hundreds of surounding acers where we can plant, so if SHTF we would just stay put unless it was right in our yard. with the seeds we can plant and grow more food, and more seeds, if things were bad for a long time. every spring I replace last years seed storage and feed them to the birds. just a thought seeds are light and compact and you could even eat them in a pinch. and after a while of eating dried, canned food and even fresh deer, elk and fish a nice garden ripe tomatoe would sure be nice.
Have you thought about protecting your land and crops in such a situation? I have often thought about if I was on the road during SHTF and ran out of supplies, I would come to a place like yours and offer my protective services, patrolling the perimeter of your land and beyond from any threats for food and shelter. I would of course also help with planting and general household upkeep type stuff. But it is a good idea to have a guy sitting on your roof with a good rifle and scope watching for looters or people who want to steal your food at night, or even in broad daylight.

After approaching your home, bearing a waving white flag and in a non-threatening manner, how would you respond if someone like me came & offered you such a thing in a global-panic-type situation?
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:23 PM   #43
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Have you thought about protecting your land and crops in such a situation? I have often thought about if I was on the road during SHTF and ran out of supplies, I would come to a place like yours and offer my protective services, patrolling the perimeter of your land and beyond from any threats for food and shelter. I would of course also help with planting and general household upkeep type stuff. But it is a good idea to have a guy sitting on your roof with a good rifle and scope watching for looters or people who want to steal your food at night, or even in broad daylight.

After approaching your home, bearing a waving white flag and in a non-threatening manner, how would you respond if someone like me came & offered you such a thing in a global-panic-type situation?
Ivan, we live in a place where you would really have to be trying to get there to get there. the area is mostly farm land (cows out number people 10 to one here lots and lots of good food on the hoof), crp, blm and onto the forest. our closest neighbors, a family of 5, are our most trusted allies and our best friends. anyone coming down our road would have to pass their house first. we, our family and theirs, are the same kinda, red neck hilljack type we have often talked about what we would do if? and we are pretty much on the same page. we would hold our little peice of ground any way we could, share supplies and help eachother. doubtful that anyone would come here though, but not impossible there is a highway not too far off.
If you came waving a white flag make sure you write Ivan on it so I can see it with the spotting scope from at least 1500 yards away so as not to frighten us. lol just kidding. We are good Christian folk if you came honestly seeking help and had skills to offer I cant see us turning you away. Beside we could use another adult when we went on serches for gas and other supplies that would eventually become exhasted. Further, I imagine bartering goods and serviecs and information would become a way of life. SHTF dosent mean everyone is gonna turn bad and need to die, just some people.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:36 PM   #44
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Good to know. Thanks.

As far as being way off on your own. Well, chances are if SHTF, it is going to happen in the larger cities. That means alot of people who live through the initial event will probably evacuate the city, thereby littering the land with their presence around the city. I'd say roughly at about 200-400 miles from major cities will be most effected considering the fact that the general maximum range of vehicles without a fuel refill is about that much.

You all sound pretty ready for an ordeal, but it is good to know you are willing to take on an extra hand if a good one came along.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:51 PM   #45
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Sure enough if the SHTF, I'll be hauling out for our bivquac. However ours isn't quite as secluded or difficult to get to as I have said before barring some major planet wide catastrophe odds are order will be restored in relatively little time. That said I don't want the huddled masses from the cities enroaching on our little spot thinking I should put me and mine in jeapardy because the city folks didn't take time to prepare for it. But I'd still help those that came in offering to assist in the camp and our mutual survival.
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:30 PM   #46
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Good to know. Thanks.

As far as being way off on your own. Well, chances are if SHTF, it is going to happen in the larger cities. That means alot of people who live through the initial event will probably evacuate the city, thereby littering the land with their presence around the city. I'd say roughly at about 200-400 miles from major cities will be most effected considering the fact that the general maximum range of vehicles without a fuel refill is about that much.

You all sound pretty ready for an ordeal, but it is good to know you are willing to take on an extra hand if a good one came along.
Iv'e considered that but I think the majority of roadways in and out of major areas of population would be unpassable due to conjestion (let em mock that 4x4 suv then). those that couldnt go around would be limited to walking (thank god for cody the wonder horse). and then the if it were a bombing incident the EM pulse would probably render most cars undrivable over a larger range then the fall out would be dangerous (thanks again for the horse).
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:14 PM   #47
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Food for thought

www.efoods direct.com will hitch you up with some dried foods. We buy 30 % can foods when shopping now, just for the special events designed by our Govt. Water can be stored with one to two drops of chlorine per gal. The clear Ozarka bottles work well. This is not bug out stuff, I plan on making a stand where I am. Take a look at Ed and Elaine Brown, that's how you do it. After the gangs take out the police, they will be hungry and thirsty.
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