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Old 02-11-2008, 05:43 PM   #41
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Toyota Tacoma 4WD. I never let the tank get less than 1/2 empty.
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:02 PM   #42
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From what I've read it will fry any unprotected transistors. Doesn't matter if they are energized or not. Only protection is heavy shielding or a Faraway Cage.

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Sorry, but as a scientist, I can't help but correct you here... it's called a "Faraday Cage", after the scientist of the same name.

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You're probably better off putting large amounts of lead around the important electrical components in your vehicle, as a Faraday Cage needs to be grounded or at least be connected to something that will absorb the electromagnetic radiation.
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:12 PM   #43
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I would think if things got crazy I wouldn't plan your whole existance on a vehicle, nice to have but gasoline will no doubt be very expensive if you can find it?
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:37 AM   #44
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Sorry, but as a scientist, I can't help but correct you here... it's called a "Faraday Cage", after the scientist of the same name.

Faraday cage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're probably better off putting large amounts of lead around the important electrical components in your vehicle, as a Faraday Cage needs to be grounded or at least be connected to something that will absorb the electromagnetic radiation.
I never have a problem with someone correcting my spelling. With my typing ability that could become a full time job.
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:02 AM   #45
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i think you can get a bike that folds up
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:30 PM   #46
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I would think if things got crazy I wouldn't plan your whole existance on a vehicle, nice to have but gasoline will no doubt be very expensive if you can find it?
True and thats why I have my diesel pickup set aside i can use heating oil,kerosene,ect anything but gasoline if needed. I have tested all of these out so I know it will work only affects milage and amount of smoke from the tail pipe. ofcoures 98% of my plans involve staying home anyway but its good to plan for the 2%.
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:07 PM   #47
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Jeep Grand Cherokee with bicycle mounted on top rack. If I get down the road and can't drive or find alternative off-road routes... then the bike comes down and I do some sweating.
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:28 PM   #48
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:44 PM   #49
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We have a Suzuki Samurai, 6in.lift kit, 30in tires,always full of survival gear, and weapons, that we travel in the AZ deserts two or three times weekly, we camp out near the Mex. border, a lot so we are always prepered for anything that should happen.
Under the hood are tools,extra oil, ammo,and water for the engine, inside we aways,carry water,and MRE,s for emergency use.
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We have a Suzuki Samuria, 6in lift kit, 30" wheels, 400mi. fuel, under the hood I have extra oil,tools,extra water for the engine,and a few boxes of ammo.
Inside, drinking water, survival gear,weapons,MRI,s and our camping gear, weekly we go on trail rides into the AZ desert, sometimes we camp near the Mex. border, so we are always prepared for just about anything. Falcon 2

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Old 03-07-2008, 12:50 AM   #50
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Animal or human powered vehicle would be the most reliable though not the fastest. Living where I do it is easy to just "disappear" and get away from the population since it is so limited. The big drawback is that the majority of population here, including my wife and I, abut the 2 biggest military installations in the state. Thats a pretty big target heh. I always hope that if it where to be a nuclear SHTF scenario that I am at ground zero... no worries then !
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Old 03-10-2008, 03:11 PM   #51
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My wife's Honda Civic Hybrid: 45 m.p.g. It's tiny, but it will take us a long way. I'm 30 minutes from Cleveland. If it gets hit with thermonuclear weapons, we're toast anyway, so I'm not worried about EMP. The Civic has bicycle racks, but they are only useful in warm weather. It's March and we got two feet of snow last Saturday. Also, there is just not enough wildreness around here for a large number of people to "bug-out" to.

I think I'd pull the cars into the garage, turn off the house lights and STFU. I can handle the odd prowler looking for canned goods. In the face of a real armed effort to get in, however, the strategy would be to withdraw and find a quiet place to pass the time.
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:39 PM   #52
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First I'm not a mechanic and have very little mechanical ability, so I ask this out of ignorance.

Would the EMP affect the fuel pump, starter, or alternator? If it does would it matter how old the vehicle is? I have an old Honda Odyssey Dune Buggy that is pull start and the fuel is gravity fed, would this vehicle be safe? My ATV is kick start hopefully it will also still work. Our plan is to Bug In but if we have to move out we do have mountain bikes as a last resort.
The big thing you have to worry about with electromagnetic pulse is frying solid state (which includes computer microchips) circuitry. It's why the old Soviet military radios included tubes. They are huge and clunky when compared to microchips - but they are immune to EMP. Basically, any vehicle built before 1972 uses mechanical relays for things like voltage regulators that EMP won't damage. It's vehicles made after 1972 you have to check on a case by case basis. I think your Honda is safe, but read the operator's manual and see if it has any solid state or electronic components in it.

That's one reason I want a Mercedes 300SDL so much. I'm positive it would start okay in an EMP scenario.

Also, consider this: in that scenario, 98% of all vehicles will not start because their circuitry is fried. The roads may not be as crowded as we fear, at least if the pulse arrives at other than a rush hour period. If you have an antique car that will run, you may want to think about adding a hand-crank gas pump and some 5 gallon jerry cans to your car kit. You'll be able to siphon fuel out of the tanks of the dead cars.
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It is pretty certain that whatever vehicle you use will eventually become abandoned due to fuel, damage, etc.

I would think to use ANY 4 x 4 to get where you need to bug out to ... away from cities and/or any threats in the area. Once you are in place, go to the animal kind for travel afterward, reserving your vehicle and fuel for an emergency.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:20 AM   #54
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I'd take my '92 Chevy pickup with the 4-wheeler in the back. If I had enough time I would tow this little baby behind me;

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Old 03-13-2008, 06:14 PM   #55
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I have a Six-Wheeled ATV made by Max it will pull around 1 ton easy and can go about 500 miles on a tank of gas. It is amphibious and I have taken it through mud 2 feet thick with no probs. I'd hook it to the SUV and head with the family and when the tiem came un-hitch unload it fomr the trailer load it and the trailer up and hook the trailer to it.
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Old 03-15-2008, 05:14 AM   #56
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We have a Suzuki Samurai, 6in.lift kit, 30in tires,always full of survival gear, and weapons, that we travel in the AZ deserts two or three times weekly, we camp out near the Mex. border, a lot so we are always prepered for anything that should happen.
Under the hood are tools,extra oil, ammo,and water for the engine, inside we aways,carry water,and MRE,s for emergency use.
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We have a Suzuki Samuria, 6in lift kit, 30" wheels, 400mi. fuel, under the hood I have extra oil,tools,extra water for the engine,and a few boxes of ammo.
Inside, drinking water, survival gear,weapons,MRI,s and our camping gear, weekly we go on trail rides into the AZ desert, sometimes we camp near the Mex. border, so we are always prepared for just about anything. Falcon 2
+1 for the Suzuki Samurai.....great vehicle!
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Old 03-15-2008, 07:22 AM   #57
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i plan on just strapping a liberal to the front of my rikshaw, and then crack that whip.........
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Old 03-15-2008, 07:51 AM   #58
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:12 AM   #59
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I have a 2007 jeep rubicon. After the gas runs out. I have two good legs.
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:39 AM   #60
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I wish I still had my old CJ. 1980 CJ5 with 4in lift and 33s. Old Chevy 350 with a 4bbl quadrajet carb. I could take that thing anywhere. Had a 9500lb warn winch on the front just incase i got stupid. I had installed 1986 CJ7 axles on it to give it a wider footprint and a Dana 44 rear. Since it only got 8 mpg I had 2 5gall jerry cans on back with my full size spare. I think the onlything that the EMP would have fried would have been the sweet stereo system i had in it.

I pulled many suzukis out with it back in the day most of the time in 2wd covering them with mud from the rooster tails
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