weight of bulk bullets

[binabik]

ok, i know that most survivalists are going to take guns in some sort of capacity, well i am wanting to know how much 500 bullets weigh in each of the calibers i have listed below. feel free to post of any bullets that aren't listed below but i am just needing to know the ones i list.

i ask that the weights be what you have weighed yourself, not manufacturers specifications, and please list the grain of the bullet, and powder if that is something that might need to be listed

in fact, all detailes about the ammo is good.

feel free to list conflicting weights

.45 G.A.P.
.45 AUTO
10 mm AUTO
.22 LR
5.7x28 (i heard this was 1/2 the weight of the 9mm and that is good enough for me)
9x19mm
.308
.223 (not 5.56, i know the difference and i prefer to have the weight of the civilian stuff, not the military surplus)
all .17 rimfire and .22 rimfire


and lastly, this one is complicated, the shotgun shells for 12, 20, .410 gauge. for shotguns i would like the shot details if it is shot, the slug details if it is slug and all other variations

i know i won't be carrying around 500 shotgun shells, but i would still like the weight of this quanity, of course the weight for 100 shells would be fine

thanks, i know this is a tall order, but i think it would be helpful for anyone, especially for people who are designing the bugout bags

EDIT: If you use a container for protection or easy of storage please list what it is and how much it weighs. also if you are packing it in a pack please tell me about how much space it takes up, can be inch by inch, cubic inches, or any other measure

[binabik]

does anyone know, or are people finding out. I am really interested in this question, extremly interested

[stitchclimber]

I assume your interested in the weight of the entire round, not just the bullet correct?

Unfortunately the only thing I have more than 500 of are 9mm and 7.62x39 and they're still in factory boxes or in sealed magazines...

[binabik]

yes, the entire complete round, and many of them. if you have like 50 or so that would be fine, just something that i could easily multiply but still have enough to represent the weight accuratly. don't take them out of your factory boxes if you are not ready to.

[Moss500Bantam]

Are you an engineer?

Submitted with respect

Moss

[binabik]

no but i am in my freshmen year of college going for aerospace engineering(weight matters), i am just planning my biking bug out vehicale and i think i know 1000 rounds of 9mm is like 22 pounds and 2000 rounds of 5.7mm is also 22 pounds, and i am mainly interest in shot shells, the .308.

[big shrek]

Look on the side of a box of 12-gauge shells in the configureation you want...it'll have a weight on it. Walmart's good about that.

[binabik]

i could do that, but i was taught that that is not usually the weight in actuality

[tbonecpk]

you are not lookin for the net weight just the weight of the total ammount of ammo?

[JMcDonald]

I think if he just got the weights of each type of individual bullet he could figure out how much a given amount would weigh.

[binabik]

i am talking about some sort of weight of 50 complete rounds in each of the ammo types listed

[Beans]

This request is very broad, in fact too broad as the weights is altered with different bullet/shot weights for each caliber.

Using the old standard of 50 rds per box the following shows, (A lot of pistol ammo is now loaded in 20 rds boxes and some facotry 9mm surplus ammo is packed 36 rds per box.)

IE: 45 ACP bullets weights for factory loadings range from 185 grains to 230 Grs. a 45 grain weight difference in just bullet weight alone

45 ACP-- 230-185= 45 grains x 50 =2250/7000 grains or 1/3 (.32) of a pound difference just in bullets weight alone.

In the 9mm Factory bullet weights range from 90 grains to 147 grains or a 57 grain weight spread per bullet.

147-90= 57 grains x 50=2850/7000 Grains or 4/10 of a pound difference in just bullet weight alone.

Also you have to also consider in most pistol rounds. the difference in the weight of the cases IE: (blazer) alumimun cases vs brass cases vs steel cases

FYI: there is 7000 grains per american pound

Shotgun shells loads range from 1/2oz to 1 1/2 oz ( from just pellets/shot) and are we talking about High base express shells or low base light trap loads.

There is also a slight weight difference in the shotgun shell hull weight depending on the manufacture.

[Big Tool]

Well according to my digital scale a box of fiocchi 12Gauge 9shot "bird stuff" Weighs 2lbs and 4ounces per box of 25 so 4 boxes would be 8lbs 16ounces = 9lbs for 100rds.

I also weighed some remington 12 gauge 3" 00buck shot. Each box weighs 2lbs 2ounces. So for 100rds You will be at about 14lbs.

A box of Remmington .22lr "550 Rds" 36Grain hollow points weighs a whopping 4lbs 1ounce

Remmington 45Auto 230Grain bulk box 100rds weighed 4lbs 13ounces

Remmington 9mm 115grain bulk box 100rds weighed 2lbs 12 ounces

Winchester 308 150gr. soft pt. box of 20 weighed 1lb 1ounce

Silver Bear 7.62x39 hollow pt 123Grain. 100rds total weighed 3lbs 11ounces

I only had 5rds of 10mm in my glock, but they weighed 2 Ounces

Hope that helps, if you have any questions just ask.

[Big Tool]

If i were packing ammo It would be 1 brick of 22lr. 100rds of 7.62x39 "alot more powerful rd than most think" Maybe a couple boxes of bird shot.

[binabik]

sorry i haven't replied in a while, not good at this forums stuff,

Beans, i understand that it is broad and i am mainly talking about what you guys have at your house and 50 rounds is plenty for a good weight i think, i am wanting the details of your guy'es bullets and the weight.

for the shotgun shells, beans, just last night i weighed some at walmart, the details that i can remember are 1 1/2 oz, 12 guage, 100 rounds and got 9.5 pounds. now i was thinking most people hail shotguns as the greates survivalist weapons, well 200 rounds will not last that long in my opinion and if you are carrieing other stuff 20 pounds might be all you can carry in ammo i think, now that same 20 pounds can i think hold 2000 5.7 mm fn cartridges.

now for big tool

yeah i found out shotgun shells weighed alot, i was thinking of carrying a shotgun for living off the land for occational bird hunting or land hunting with slugs and bear defense but if you couldnt resupply it seems like it would be best to conserver what little shotshells you can carry.

also for a pistol carry 9mm seemed like it would be better and the fact that it weighs roughly half the weight then it seems like that would be the way to go

if i was taking a .308 rifle, like the steyr scout you wouldn't be able to carry much, if you could spare only 20 pounds for ammo then you could only carry 400 rounds and 400 rounds might not get you very far, though if it is a bolt action rifle it would be conserved because of limited fire rate and it is more useful than a short range low power pistol round

10 mm is very important to me and that may not be accurate if you were to calculate more rounds but it is good enough to make a base estimation

well thanks for your help, this has actually changed my view quite a bit, helped me with weight ideas, thanks, i like more replys if you guys got them

[chris l]

Perhaps weigh one of each and multiply?

[binabik]

weighing one of each then multiplying might be good but i would appreciate if the weighing would be to say .001 accuracy, if something is weighed in bulk it would be an average weight of the ammo