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Old 09-15-2009, 01:31 AM   #21
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My 1994 Winchester Trapper in .44 magnum.

That right there is a nice firearm! I think you should loan that'un to me for awhile Rondog!
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:54 AM   #22
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That right there is a nice firearm! I think you should loan that'un to me for awhile Rondog!
Yep, it sure is, If I had to pick one drawback, it'd have to be the crossbolt safety...

Sorry, nothing against the rifle, it's just a personal thing with the crossbolt safety.

But I love the barrel length. The 16" I believe. I'd love to have a Legendary Lawman in this length barrel. A large loop would be nice as well.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:03 AM   #23
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Marlin makes some awesome looking and performing lever-action rifles chambered with .357mag and .44mag. I've always wanted one and plan to get one when my wallet can handle it. Not to say they are expensive, but being unemployed, yea...I'm not buying too many new things these days.

Marlin Model 1894 Cowboy

They also have the .45-70 Govt. rifles that you can find in a handgun, but not sure a guy's body can take the pressure of shooting a .45-70 handgun for too long...hah.

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand...Code=BFR45-707
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:17 AM   #24
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:49 AM   #25
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As a final note, the .45 Long Colt ammo is expensive as hell. Also, it is a little harder to reload for than many other rounds, from what I have been told.

.45 Colt ammo may be expensive but All ammuniton is expensive these days. And I've had NO trouble reloading my for my .45 Colt. Its a straight walled cartridge so they seldom need trimmed, if ever. Lee die sets are carbide which require No lubrication. Vast varieties of bullets; cast or jacketed, in weights from about 180gr up to around 300 are common. Brass is fairly cheap. The Colt uses little powder and there are dozens of different powders suitable for use in the Colt. During the primer shortages of recent months Large Pistol primers were, for the most part, just about always available around here even when others weren't.

I don't see why it would be any harder to reload for than any other round.
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.45 Colt ammo may be expensive but All ammuniton is expensive these days. And I've had NO trouble reloading my for my .45 Colt. Its a straight walled cartridge so they seldom need trimmed, if ever. Lee die sets are carbide which require No lubrication. Vast varieties of bullets; cast or jacketed, in weights from about 180gr up to around 300 are common. Brass is fairly cheap. The Colt uses little powder and there are dozens of different powders suitable for use in the Colt. During the primer shortages of recent months Large Pistol primers were, for the most part, just about always available around here even when others weren't.

I don't see why it would be any harder to reload for than any other round.
i agree
it is a cinch to load and very versatile.
i load a couple 1000 a year i guess.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:36 PM   #27
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What is the recoil of a .44 magnum like in a lever action rifle like that?

Never shot it at all in a handgun or a rifle. so no idea.
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:38 PM   #28
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Haven't tried a .44, but my 1894 in .357 has hardly any. Mine is the older style with the half cock notch for a safety. I paid $225 a few months ago, from my barber.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:17 PM   #29
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What is the recoil of a .44 magnum like in a lever action rifle like that?

Never shot it at all in a handgun or a rifle. so no idea.
Really managable, not unlike a .30-30 with the 170 grainers. I have gone through lots of rounds and never a bruised shoulder (of course I only shoot 240 grain factory loads). Anything within 150 yards is in trouble!
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:42 AM   #30
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What is the recoil of a .44 magnum like in a lever action rifle like that?

Never shot it at all in a handgun or a rifle. so no idea.
It ain't a problem at all in a lever-action if ya got a few muscles

And Cowboy loads are EASY as pie
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:44 PM   #31
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What is the recoil of a .44 magnum like in a lever action rifle like that?
Never shot it at all in a handgun or a rifle. so no idea.
I have a Winchester 94 trails end, I got in 2004 or 2005, one of the last years Winchester made them. My gun Barks and jumps. The comparison of recoil to a 30-30 would be fairly accurate. When it comes time to shoot. You don't even notice the recoil because your having to much fun throwing a dozen 240 grainers down range with little more than the flick of a wrist in a matter of moments. Good Stuff
Of course maybe I should get a 44 mag revolver now to consolidate ammo for two different guns into one package
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:16 PM   #32
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Telling someone what gun to buy is like telling them what make car to get , everyone has their favorite. Here is my 2 cents worth. There are several companies that make or have made carbines in 9mm, 40S&W, 10MM these are semi auto (high point and Ruger come to mind) Marlin and several others make levers in 38/357, 44spec/44mag, 45lc, or like mine 32-20 even 45-70 and all of these can be found in a revolver (but the 45-70 is a brute) Ruger use to make a dandy little 44mag but these are getting spendy and collectible. PS a nice little self defense carbine is the SKS. It hold 10 rounds, can be refilled quick with stripper clips can even be found with a bayonet in case you run out of ammo and need a last ditch defense.

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Old 09-16-2009, 11:51 PM   #33
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There's also the Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1928A1 semi-auto only near copy called the "Commando." It's chambered in .45 ACP and packs a wallop, at least at short ranges (100 yards & under). It's not cheap at more than $1,000, but it's a proven, reliable design using one of the "universal" cartridges for North America. Couple it with an M1911A1 or a Model 1917 revolver, and you have a combination that will handle almost anything.

I'd include the Hi-Point Model 4595 in .45 ACP here, based on the reliability and toughness of the Model 995 and the Model 4095 - if Hi-Point ever manages to get it into production. They've been promising this carbine to America's shooters for at least three years now; they've displayed the prototype on the Web. Hi-Point even released a version of the Model 995 that resembles the Model 4595. They just haven't managed to release the real thing yet! When they do, it will be worth considering as part of a same-caliber rifle & pistol setup.
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:14 AM   #34
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i would love to get my hands on a marlin camp carbine in .45 that would make a great addition to a 1911 single stack...

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Old 09-17-2009, 12:23 AM   #35
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i would love to get my hands on a marlin camp carbine in .45 that would make a great addition to a 1911 single stack...
I have that combo in my daily driving rig. The Marlin has a Butler Creek folder stock, and the 1911 happens to be a Colt Commander. VERY handy being able to use the same mags in both!

The pistol/rifle combo I carry in my other truck is a Ruger 77/44 and Ruger Redhawk, both in .44 Magnum.
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:57 AM   #36
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thats why i want one Ten Man... i love my 1911 and wish i had a carbine to take the same mag. hows that camp carbine for accuracy?
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:40 AM   #37
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thats why i want one Ten Man... i love my 1911 and wish i had a carbine to take the same mag. hows that camp carbine for accuracy?
It shoots 2 MOA. I have .45 ACP handguns that are just as or more accurate, but the gain in velocity(and punch) out of the carbine makes up for the slight loss (versus a real rifle) in accuracy. I have not shot it past 100 yards, because the bullet drop is significant, and I don't plan on having to use it for long shots.

Every once in a while there is a Marlin Camp 45 for sale on GunsAmerica. Put it on your "Wish List" on GA so you get notified when one comes up for sale. Be ready to pay a premium for it. LOL

The combo is more of a "close encounters" type of arrangement that I keep in the vehicle for "emergency" use, only.

If I were planning on using them on a regular basis, I would substitute a Marlin 1894C and a Ruger Vaquero, both in .45 Colt or Ruger 77/44 and Redhawk in .44 Magnum, like I have in my hunting/backwoods rig.

The .45 ACP combo is in my little "around town" SUV, for aiding in getting home during a SHTF situation. The wife and I both carry .45 ACP, so the backup combo in the little SUV is the same ammo.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:45 PM   #38
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Them ol' boy's had it right. One rifle, one pistol, one box of ammo... I am currently saving money to buy a .357 lever to go with my .357 Smith..
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:46 AM   #39
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I have an older model 1894 in 44 mag and a single action handgun to match. Also a G26 and a KelTec 9mm to match. Picked up a 44/40 rifle and looking for a handgun to match. Like the concept.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:24 AM   #40
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Well to everyone who answered my question about 44 magnum recoil thanks.

Unfortunately you all compared it to a .30-30 which is another caliber Ive never shot lol.

If its not a semi current military or police round I probably havnt shot it... Yea ive lived a deprived life lol.

Would a .30-30 be like a 7.62x39 AK round in terms of recoil or less than that?

Ive been kinda tempted to get a lever action rifle in either .357, 44 mag or 30-30 before and this thread renewed my interest.

Which do you think will give me the best bang for the buck lol?
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