Rifles that shoot Pistol Ammo

larmus · 09-19-2009, 02:28 PM

TACAV in answer to this new question i think the 30-30 is like the '39 round probably closer to the .308 (7.62x51) but not like the '54r round... as for bang for your buck i would go with the 30-30 or even a 30-06 in leveraction... i bought a Marlin 30-30 leveraction off a very close friend, and he used to hunt with it, he would constantly and consecutively take dear at 150 to 200+ yards with that leveraction. my dad has it now, he liked it so much he bought another Marlin lever in 30-30 as well...

Ten Man · 09-19-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TACAV

Well to everyone who answered my question about 44 magnum recoil thanks.

Unfortunately you all compared it to a .30-30 which is another caliber Ive never shot lol.

If its not a semi current military or police round I probably havnt shot it... Yea ive lived a deprived life lol.

Would a .30-30 be like a 7.62x39 AK round in terms of recoil or less than that?

Ive been kinda tempted to get a lever action rifle in either .357, 44 mag or 30-30 before and this thread renewed my interest.

Which do you think will give me the best bang for the buck lol?

30-30 has a slight bit more recoil than the AK47, according to my wife. I can't tell much difference, unless I focus on it. Usually, I'm focusing on the target! LOL

As far as the most bang for your buck, I'd say the .357 Magnum would be the best bet. Especially if you already own a .357 Magnum handgun of some type.

If I were going to start from "scratch" with a pistol/rifle combo, I would still go with the .44 Magnum. Ammo would be more expensive (unless you reload, even then, more expensive than reloading .357), but you get more knockdown power. If you can handle shooting a .44 Magnum handgun, the .44 Magnum rifle is a piece of cake. This recommendation is based on you wanting a serious fighting/hunting combo.

If you just want something for fun/plinking/target shooting with pistol/rifle combo ammo, go with the .357 Magnum or 9MM pistol/carbine. As mentioned before, you can shoot .38 Specials from the .357, and can "muscle up" to .357, when needed.

gwhaling · 09-19-2009, 02:45 PM

I keep looking at a ruger blackhawk in 30 carbine to go with the m-1 I have.

Glen

TACAV · 09-19-2009, 03:41 PM

hmm Thanks for the replies. I already own a .357 mag and shooting hot loads out of that is no problem. Maybe ill go that route.

Doc Jones · 09-19-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ten Man

30-30 has a slight bit more recoil than the AK47, according to my wife. I can't tell much difference, unless I focus on it. Usually, I'm focusing on the target! LOL

As far as the most bang for your buck, I'd say the .357 Magnum would be the best bet. Especially if you already own a .357 Magnum handgun of some type.

If I were going to start from "scratch" with a pistol/rifle combo, I would still go with the .44 Magnum. Ammo would be more expensive (unless you reload, even then, more expensive than reloading .357), but you get more knockdown power. If you can handle shooting a .44 Magnum handgun, the .44 Magnum rifle is a piece of cake. This recommendation is based on you wanting a serious fighting/hunting combo.

If you just want something for fun/plinking/target shooting with pistol/rifle combo ammo, go with the .357 Magnum or 9MM pistol/carbine. As mentioned before, you can shoot .38 Specials from the .357, and can "muscle up" to .357, when needed.

Ten Man, How would the 45 Colt stack up to the 44 magnum on these criteria?

Doc

Ten Man · 09-20-2009, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Jones

Ten Man, How would the 45 Colt stack up to the 44 magnum on these criteria?

Doc

I'm not sure which criteria you are referring to, Doc.

The .45 Colt is a VERY popular pistol/rifle combo that has been around, doing the job quite well, for 150 years.

.45 Colt is a lower pressure cartridge with slower velocity, slightly heavier bullet (255gr. vs. 240 gr. for the .44 Mag.), and less recoil than the .44 Magnum. It is a pleasant round to shoot, and is routinely downloaded for Cowboy Action Shooting. The CAS loads are VERY mild, yet full power .45 Colt loads will take down just about any critter (2 or 4 legged) that you would run into. It does not have the range the .44 Mag has, due to the slower velocity. Full power .45 Colt loads will have less recoil than the .44 Mag. The guns themselves are slightly lighter for .45 Colt than .44 Mag., because not as much metal is needed to contain the pressure of the cartridge.

Ammo is slightly heavier to carry for the .45 Colt than the .44 Mag., due to the size of the ammo.

.44 Magnum will penetrate hard targets better than the .45 Colt, but the .45 Colt tends to penetrate bodies deeper than the .44 Magnum, due to the slower velocity combined with the heavier bullet.

Other than that, they are both great pistol/rifle combos that would serve well for a multitude of uses.

EtherialOne · 10-12-2009, 03:42 AM

Have both .357 and 44 Mag Lever Guns and Love them, esp. the .357 and agree that out to 100 yards they are quite capable. I also have a couple of 9mm carbines and while fun they are much more limited in useful scope with less power and less accuracy, but with the advantage of firepower. For the Money usefullness and likelihood of remaining legal they are hard to beat. Also if you also feel the need for a little more power and range without too much cost an SKS might also fit into the picture nicely.. about the same power as a 30-30, but perhaps cheaper to buy and get ammo for and though it's not in the same class as the higher powered 30 cal rifles, for most people it should be more than enough.

09-19-2009, 02:28 PM	#41
larmus Domestic Engineer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 3,159 Images: 6	TACAV in answer to this new question i think the 30-30 is like the '39 round probably closer to the .308 (7.62x51) but not like the '54r round... as for bang for your buck i would go with the 30-30 or even a 30-06 in leveraction... i bought a Marlin 30-30 leveraction off a very close friend, and he used to hunt with it, he would constantly and consecutively take dear at 150 to 200+ yards with that leveraction. my dad has it now, he liked it so much he bought another Marlin lever in 30-30 as well... __________________ Lawrence Home Defense: .45 and a Shovel...

09-19-2009, 02:45 PM	#43
gwhaling Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: wv Posts: 62	Rifle/pistol combo I keep looking at a ruger blackhawk in 30 carbine to go with the m-1 I have. Glen

09-19-2009, 03:41 PM	#44
TACAV Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,538	hmm Thanks for the replies. I already own a .357 mag and shooting hot loads out of that is no problem. Maybe ill go that route. __________________ Zombies don't hold grudges, discriminate, or negotiate- Neither should you. -The Zen of Zombie-

10-12-2009, 03:42 AM	#47
EtherialOne Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rural NC Posts: 48	Have both .357 and 44 Mag Lever Guns and Love them, esp. the .357 and agree that out to 100 yards they are quite capable. I also have a couple of 9mm carbines and while fun they are much more limited in useful scope with less power and less accuracy, but with the advantage of firepower. For the Money usefullness and likelihood of remaining legal they are hard to beat. Also if you also feel the need for a little more power and range without too much cost an SKS might also fit into the picture nicely.. about the same power as a 30-30, but perhaps cheaper to buy and get ammo for and though it's not in the same class as the higher powered 30 cal rifles, for most people it should be more than enough.