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Old 10-05-2009, 11:17 AM   #21
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It's amazing how getting out of the slightest breeze can really help. Sleeping in a snow cave is pretty freeky the first night.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:41 PM   #22
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Sorry to chime in but something I'd like to point out this is listed as a "Survival" kit, but when given the Instruction on it, this kit is actually a E&E Kit, thus the reason no weapons are listed and is typically designed for the soul purpose to use for escape and evasion behind unfriendly lines with out using your weapon to attract attention to your location by hostile forces.

It as a tracked item, only time I was ever issued one was during hostile operations in a open conflict environment.

This may be different then what others are saying/reading on the net and such but thats what my Platoon Sergeant passed on to us when we where issued ours. When we demobbed back to the world, we turned them back in as controlled items.

If you can get your hands on a full kit, they are a good piece of gear to have.
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:56 PM   #23
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Ok, now i understand...

Dont bag on me to much, I am a civilian after all... but lets say your were a marine and in a group (squad?) on a helicopter behind enemy lines and were shot down, your heliocopter goes down out side and many miles from initial hit by enemy fire. You have lost primary and secondary weapons because of the impact of the crash... So this would be the kit that you were issued and would use to get back to allied forces, Correct?
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:09 PM   #24
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sv, I have 3 articles on this that are too long for the forum. PM me if you'd like to have me send you a copy.
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:22 PM   #25
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Ok, now i understand...

Dont bag on me to much, I am a civilian after all... but lets say your were a marine and in a group (squad?) on a helicopter behind enemy lines and were shot down, your heliocopter goes down out side and many miles from initial hit by enemy fire. You have lost primary and secondary weapons because of the impact of the crash... So this would be the kit that you were issued and would use to get back to allied forces, Correct?
No...what ya'd do in that situation is grab the M60 off the door mount and go on a Rambo Rampage back to your lines!
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:36 PM   #26
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Old 10-08-2009, 08:57 PM   #27
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Ok, now i understand...
Dont bag on me to much, I am a civilian after all... but lets say your were a marine and in a group (squad?) on a helicopter behind enemy lines and were shot down, your heliocopter goes down out side and many miles from initial hit by enemy fire. You have lost primary and secondary weapons because of the impact of the crash... So this would be the kit that you were issued and would use to get back to allied forces, Correct?

In my squad if we were issued these kits, yes in that case this is what we'd use when unable to get to friendlies and resupply. Alot of times during scout missions we where issued these to carry with us. All around a great bit of gear. there are five for sale on Ebay right now for 125 bucks.
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:21 PM   #28
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well i have to agree with oldjarhead, ive been in the Corps for over 3 yrs and i have never seen, nor needed 90% of that stuff. but i DO have a lot of it in my personal survival kit. rifle, ammo, knife, multi tool. and i actually used safety pins as hooks when we were in AP Hill, i caught a little croppie with it and was eating good in about 5 minutes. i've truthfully never even seen that list. but i understand what your saying. for regular survival situations, a gun is not needed. i would just rather have one, any day of the week
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:50 PM   #29
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I don't know about some of that stuff,but a pizza delivery telly# sounds like it might be handy. ,,,sam.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:58 AM   #30
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Funny, I served 25 years in the Corps and my survival kit consisted of a rifle, ammo, bayonet, shelter half, blanket, clean set of clothing, canteen with cup, and compass; and a KaBar. Some of us carried a sewing kit for whatever purpose we needed it for; good for mending clothing and stitching up wounds.
Oh yeah, we had a compression bandage on our cartridge belt.
As Thrillbilly said...we learned how to shoot for food. Survival is to do what you can with what you have at hand.
Don't think for a second that a military person will willingly give up his weapon and ammo for a little packet of goodies...these are of primary interest in staying alive during an emergency.
You go ahead and try to survive on your little packet of goodies without a weapon...I'll keep my weapon and ammo thank you.
Looks to me like there is a lot of civilian influence on the military these days.
oldjarhead ... I tend to agree with you. I'll keep my weapons and improvise where I need to. In my opinion, applicable clothing, shelter and a water source is what really matters.

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