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Old 10-11-2011, 11:03 AM   #1
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Altoid Can -- Situational Opinions

Okay, here is the situation. You have planned for this already, and I want to know what your plans were. During an end of the world, catastrophic event, you are stranded hundreds of miles from your family with no automated means of transportation or communication for you or anyone else. You were in your vehicle at the time of the EVENT and literally, the S has HTF!

Here is what you have going on: You were driving down a country, two-lane highway when IT strikes. You veer off the road and down an embankment. Your vehicle is crushed but you're ok. You can't reach any of your guns or BOBs. All you can reach is that Altoid can in your glove box that you had prepared for just such an event. It's all you have other than the clothes on your back.

My Question: Whats in the Altoids Can? Be reasonable.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:18 AM   #2
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I don't want to not be able to hear the end coming due to dirty ears.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:00 PM   #3
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Derringer , cigar , pic of wife and favorite cd.

Or if living is an option

Cable saw , victronox credit card tool , fire strarter maganese, torch lighter, fishing hand line , couple hooks , thread and needle , aspirin , bleach in small vial, and a couple hard candies.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:21 PM   #4
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A pack of smokes fits perfectly! All you need after that is a blindfold.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:28 PM   #5
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I keep a couple of big kits in my SUV at all times. A universal repair kit with lots of tape and rope, and a home made first aid and trauma kit.

That aside, you'd be amazed what all you can fit in that little can.

I forget who it was, but one of the geniuses here figured out how to fit a weeks worth of survival supplies, including matches, razor blades, para cord, duct tape, fishing tools, etc, in one.

I was particularly fond of the tape and razor. he had several strips of tap, the size of the back of the can. Between a few of the strips he had some razor blades. VERY nice.

I'd like to say I keep my .45 on my hip, so I don't need a derringer, but the truth is, it's usually in my brief case I do always have a knife in my pocket through, still the razors are nice.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:58 PM   #6
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Whats in my Altoids can ? Why...Altoids of course! Gotta have fresh breath...
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:11 PM   #7
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I would use the Altoids can to protect my communicator that allows me to contact the Mother Ship.

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Old 10-11-2011, 02:33 PM   #8
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This is the one with the razors.
EQUIPPED TO SURVIVE (tm) - Doug Ritter's Mini Survival Kit


Some little kit is going for $30 that would fit in a alltoids can.


Pocket Survival Pak - Wilderness Kit


And the empty can $1.90, LOL.


Survival Tin - Home Made Survival Kit
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:00 PM   #9
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Thats great One. Just what i was looking for. I have to ask though, what were the hard candies for in the earlier post?
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:43 PM   #10
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Thats great One. Just what i was looking for. I have to ask though, what were the hard candies for in the earlier post?
The post said fresh breath for world eniolation. Fresh breath, rotting courps. Who knows.
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:52 PM   #11
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Everyone has been talking about a BOB bag. As for me I plan on staying put. Have food stored up, weapons and ammo, looking at getting a gas genarator (and do not put it next to an open window, that will kill ya quicker than the radiation). Have the Kingsford and the BBQ grill, can't let all the meat in the freezer go bad. If anything happens while I am in town it is only a 6 mile hike, less than that as the crow flys and not sticking to the roads. I have a house and property to protect. And where I live the area is so small that neighbors will stick together. We have already prooven that. My neighbor had some watermellons stole from his garden. The one who was doin it was gettin out a dodge when I was walking up to confront him. Of course me and my neighbor talked. We keep an eye on each others places out here. My neighbor x Army Airborne Ranger. I can see the back of his house and he can see mine. I have been cutting down a lot of brush to have a clear field of vision.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:05 PM   #12
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Thats great One. Just what i was looking for. I have to ask though, what were the hard candies for in the earlier post?
Backpackers trick to staving off thirst. The OPs situation put you far from home on foot with no container for water til found. May be awhile before that first drink. Travel home was the goal so a plastic sheet to catch dew is too slow.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:32 PM   #13
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Cyanide capsule...your as good as dead meat anyway.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:01 PM   #14
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I need to play with this concept again. I carried one in a Sucrets tin in high school, back in the days when you didn't have to pass through a metal detector on your way into school. It sounded a lot like the Doug Ritter kit, except instead of exacto blades I carried three single edge razor blades, the kind made for scrapers. I also carried glover's needles and regular sewing needles inside a piece of plastic straw plugged with little wooden plugs cut to fit in the container, and aspirin instead of prescription meds, also in a cut down straw. I also had nylon thread in with the needles, 150 feet of it, and a small magnifying lens about the size of a nickel. There was more, but the only other thing I remember is a gigli saw. They are somewhat delicate, being as they are intended to cut pieces out of the human skull, but a long way ahead of not having a saw at all.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:16 PM   #15
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Whats in my Altoids can ? Why...Altoids of course! Gotta have fresh breath...
Beat me to it. I like the chocolate-covered Altoids peppermints myself.
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:13 PM   #16
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Unfortunately i dont carry one of those, so im screw'd right off the bat according to the OP.
But hypotheticaly speaking if this happend, say car rolls BOB and long rifle, camp gear gone ( 150 miles from home would mean i was hunting with a friend up in the mountains). Just whats on my person could get me home, albeit hungry( not starving) but home.

Gear on person (lets say like what i carry at work minus some things):
-Watch (digital, wouldnt work anymore so id ditch the watch and keep the band, never know)
-survival braclet (10feet of Para-cord, 7 strand inner core)
- Wallet in left top pocket(i use a passport wallet, therefore it has a lanyard on it, might could use it for something)
- Left thigh pocket = leather gloves and a 16oz bottle of water
- Cell Phone (ditch it no good, keep case though)
- Change, lighter, earplugs all in right top pocket.
- right thigh pocket = led flash light, mini-ratchet screwdriver w/standard, phillips and hex head bits and a book "day by day armageddon" by J.L. Bourne wrapped in a 1 gallon freezer bag( so it dont get wet).
- Boots (boots w/ the laces replaced with para-cord 7 strand)

Additional items on belt:
-3pack knife set (gut hook, skinner and utility all are stainless no handles and have a ring at base for pinky finger? idk.)
- 1911 single stack, 8 in the mag and 1 in the chamber, saftey on.
- Red/Black Shemagh
- Arizona is an open carry state therefore the 1911 is on my person except when at work or asleep.

Now this senerio preposed in the OP would only work if it were a High Altitude Burst were the radiation would disperse within the atmosphere on its way to the ground. any closer to the ground would result in total devistation within 150mile radius of initial detination, depending on size and placement of the device.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:59 PM   #17
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I must admit (and please don't ban me from this sight, though I probably deserve it) I am unprepared as well. That's kinda why I started the post. I do however have an Altoids can in the glove box, and it doesn't have any cyanide or altoids in it. Mine is 'slim pickins' but I do have the following items:

fish hooks (3 sizes) about 12 total
fishing line, 50'
wire for snares
waterproof matches
striker (firestarter) about the size of half of a q-tip
paracord (maybe 20')
potable aqua bottle
3' x 3' sheet of plastic (for a solar still)
all wrapped in 10' of duct tape

And my knife is always on me. I know I'm missing a lot, but I don't see the need for whistles, mirrors, needles and a lot of other stuff people put in their emergency kits.
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:58 PM   #18
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Needle and thread in case you need to go Rambo and stitch up a bleeder after the car destroying wreck. Or just to keep your trouser button on.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:09 AM   #19
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I must admit (and please don't ban me from this sight, though I probably deserve it) I am unprepared as well. That's kinda why I started the post. I do however have an Altoids can in the glove box, and it doesn't have any cyanide or altoids in it. Mine is 'slim pickins' but I do have the following items:

fish hooks (3 sizes) about 12 total
fishing line, 50'
wire for snares
waterproof matches
striker (firestarter) about the size of half of a q-tip
paracord (maybe 20')
potable aqua bottle
3' x 3' sheet of plastic (for a solar still)
all wrapped in 10' of duct tape

And my knife is always on me. I know I'm missing a lot, but I don't see the need for whistles, mirrors, needles and a lot of other stuff people put in their emergency kits.

We all have to start somewhere. Just realizing the need to prepare is a start. Everyone's idea on what degree to prepare depends on them and thier plans,
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Old 10-13-2011, 08:41 AM   #20
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Good discussion--have one of those ready made coughlin kits with alot of this stuff in our hit and run kit and in our cars (as well as other tools).

For me it is something that can help me get fire, purify water, help in a food source and cutting, navigate, and help me get some form of shelter.

But this is part of a larger kit for our home and some forms for all our vehicles--all of which have flashlight/lantern, tools, power source, leatherman/knife, cord, duct tape, water purifiers, fire starters, poncho, etc.--AND a decent dedicated firearm and ammo (a short barrel Single Six w/22 mag ammo works for me). The pack needs to be lightweight and carryable without fatigue--which isn`t really that hard if you are careful. I also put spare hi-energy lithium batteries in ziplocks (useful bags) because these have alot of power for their weight.

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