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Old 08-17-2012, 10:12 PM   #1
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Anybody given much thought to prepping for a nuclear, biological, or chemical attack?
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All the guns and ammo in the world won't help ya if you're dead from NBC!
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:29 PM   #3
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Nuclear? Too much collateral damage except in very limited use unless the goal is to create unusable barren wasteland.
Biologic? No insurance that once released, it won't mutate and come back to bite you so you essentially have the same "enter at your own risk" no man's land as a nuke.
Chemical? Also the same as a nuke unless you have an absolute 100% sure way to remove it.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:44 PM   #4
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The best protection is a remote location 200 miles from cities.
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:48 AM   #5
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Anybody given much thought to prepping for a nuclear, biological, or chemical attack?
There is no such weapon to prep for. Even nuclear weapons of the greatest power have extremely limited kill ranges. I once tried to create a scenario where the US suffered a nuclear attack as a survival exercise. It came down to "Were you in the blast zone?" and "Were you in the fallout zone?"

Now I'm going to pretend to be an authority on nuclear attacks but I looked at 1) ground level hits 2) above ground detonation and 3) EMP bursts. What I found was that NONE created the casualties claimed and that few States actually had military targets. If you're 200+ miles from the nearest military target in your state, the odds are you will survive. You'll be reading about the strikes in your local newspaper as if they were earthquakes in Japan.

Contrary to what we've been taught, military strikes are designed to take out our military and not our civilian population. The attacker cannot waste a warhead on Pullman, Washington or Poldunk, Illinois. They must all be used to take out our ICBM's, submarines, and B-52's or they can't insure themselves against counter attack.

So you're either in a military target area or you're not. In the one case you die and the other you don't. If you die (and you'll either die immediately or in the first 90 days) there's no sense prepping. And, if you don't die, there's no sense prepping. Society and social order just keep on ticking. There's just less of us and really not a lot less of us percentage wise. Check out what a one megaton blast does (And a 50 megaton warhead does not kill 50X more people.). The info is available online.

"Biological weapons" are also non existent. Oh! Everybody's tried to come up with one, usually based on some outbreak of centuries before. The problem with a biological weapon is that it no knows no borders. If we release a biological weapon in Iran, what's to say it doesn't show up in Canada two weeks later? How do you innoculate everybody in the world except your chosen country of intended victims? It's why biological weapons existed primarily for only WWI.

And chemical weapons? So far, the most advanced chemical weapon is sarin which, unless released in a subway tunnel, is pretty useless.

The same goes for "dirty" bombs. You can kill 10,000 people with one. Yet we have five times that number of people die in traffic accidents. GM, Chrysler, and Ford are more dangerous to us than a "dirty bomb".

My intention is not to spoil the debate. Someone may prove me wrong and, if that happens, that's genuine food for the debate. But, as for me, my survival BOB does not include a gas mask. But I'm willing to listen to the other side to argue it should.

I personally believe the threat we face for survival is not only far more deadly but actually GUARANTEED to happen and within your lifetime.
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:13 AM   #6
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I do not fear a NBC attack from a legitimate government player, other than maybe the Iranians. A well planned terror attack is much more likely in my mind than most other scenarios I've ever read about. And I agree that where ever the attack happens the damages won't be very widespread, but still if Chicago gets nuked, and there's a south wind blowing, I don't know, but I think I'd wanna put some plastic and tape up and stay inside for a few days.
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:42 AM   #7
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Fallout is the major factor in a nuclear attack, and as B&C attacks, depends on the wind direction at that tme and that will detimine the level of response you need to take. Better to over prepare than under prepare.
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:53 AM   #8
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Quote:       Originally Posted by Joe Brainard View Post
Anybody given much thought to prepping for a nuclear, biological, or chemical attack?
Yup. Gave it thought. Simple, really. You get sick and die in the event of NBC. No amount of MOPP gear will save you unless you have decontaminating backup, bigtime. So when you see the flas, just breathe deep....
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:21 AM   #9
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The word "Nuclear" always makes me think of Threads, and occasionally Jericho. I'm in an area that would probably look like it was hit already, so I highly doubt it would be struck. We have radiation gear for that though, and a basic plan in place for Bug-In, when the need arises. As for Chemical, tape the edges of the windows and seal around the doors and also Bug-In. Not a clue what to do with Biological. At any point in "NBC", all bets are off to begin with. Chemical attacks are probably the most historically prevalent, as seen in WWI and the middle east, and Nuclear weapons have only been used twice against a populace. As we musicians like to say, 'play by ear' as dumb as that probably sounds.
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Chemical, not neccesarily from attacks. more chance of a chemical cloud from derailed trains with hazards chemicals on board, or a chemical plant fire.

years ago we lived one block from a rail line that went through town. hundreds of chemical laden tank cars passed by every day. i bought an Israel gasmask and tried to convince the wife we need them incase one of them cars derailed and split open and spewed toxic gases. her reaction was i was nutz.
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Now I'm going to pretend to be an authority on nuclear attacks but I looked at 1) ground level hits 2) above ground detonation and 3) EMP bursts. What I found was that NONE created the casualties claimed and that few States actually had military targets. If you're 200+ miles from the nearest military target in your state, the odds are you will survive. You'll be reading about the strikes in your local newspaper as if they were earthquakes in Japan.
Well so long as 200 miles is accurate if the nukes come flying I may as well say good bye to everyone now Here in CT we have the sub base, Sikorsky for helicopters and I also believe we manufacture tank parts here as well. And according to the interwebs the state is only 70X110 miles so in case of NBC I wish you all farewell.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:50 AM   #12
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If NBC attack happens, I will off the CW and hope FOX can still bring me football.
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