Old 08-03-2010, 11:36 AM   #1
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A beautiful non-straight-pull Swiss!



Over on Auction Arms (Guns For Sale : Antiques - Swiss 1893 Mannlicher Carbine - Auction: 9633761 (Ends 08/03/2010, 08:30:43 PST)), there's a nice Swiss Model 1893 Mannlicher in 7.5x53 (the OLD cartridge) going for $800. These are fairly rare, with only 7,750 made by two Swiss factories -- SIG, Neuhausen, and Eidgenössische Waffenfabrik, Bern. It should be noted that the 1893's were never chambered to fire the modern GP11 7.5x55 ammunition, and should never be fired using modern loads.

These are almost identical to the Austro-Hungarian Model 95s, but Swiss-built in a carbine length and almost-full stock. They were not fitted for a bayonet. Reportedly, the Swiss were not happy with these because of accuracy issues, ease of breakage on the drill pad, and a more complicated assembly/disassembly procedure, and replaced it with the 1905 cavalry carbine. Reportedly, many of these were simply destroyed by ham-handed soldiers banging the carbines against the ground during drill, although I wonder at that statement...

Here's a better photo of the M1893 from a different source:


So, just for the record: The Swiss Army did use a turn-bolt rifle in the Schmidt-Rubin rifle era - just not many of them and not for long...
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:33 AM   #2
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I thought the M95 was a Straight Pull....I know the Steyer is.
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:53 AM   #3
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:01 AM   #4
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Quote:       Originally Posted by Buddymack View Post
I thought the M95 was a Straight Pull....I know the Steyer is.
the above cited carbine is a straight pull, look at the pictures of the partially opened bolt.
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:01 AM   #5
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Yep, definitely a straight pull rifle there! Looks nice too.
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:12 AM   #6
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Does the bolt have a claw extractor ?
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:18 PM   #7
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Straight pull for sure.
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Old 08-11-2010, 02:07 AM   #8
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The interesting thing is it looks like a M95 Steyer on a K11 stock, the earlier straight pulls didn't have that type of buttstock rifle sling attatchment.
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:18 AM   #9
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Dang! I musta been tired -- (we spell that in Texas, T-A-H-R-D!) I don't know what made me say non-straight-pull. Even I know that the Austro-Hungarian Model 95 was a straight pull. I can't believe I fouled up like that! Sorry, all. Even those of us who are semi-omniscient can have an off-day once in a while...
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