SWISS AMMO!!!!!! (GP11)

Big Dog · 06-02-2009, 09:36 AM

Get into reloading. I use reformed .284Win cases (Privi are good too, I just haven't ordered any), use your favorite .308 bullet (I use Hornady 150 grain FMJ-BT), and your favorite powder suitable for Milsurp rifles. Bob's yer uncle! Keeps me shooting, and it's nearly as tight shooting as GP11!

Check out the forum on SwissRifles.com - lots of good info on GP11 and handloading. They even show how to convert berdan cases to boxer - I'm saving all my shiny GP11 brass, in case I decide to try it.

Iron_Colonel · 06-06-2009, 08:18 PM

Good info, might be an idea to check in to.

TheHighlander · 06-08-2009, 03:39 PM

Samco has original GP11 now for $0.50 a shot!
You can buy 480 round cases too!
Welcome to Samco Global Arms, Inc.

Iron_Colonel · 06-16-2009, 11:59 PM

I picked up some GP11 stuff today, 2 packs for $80 at a gun shop. A little pricey, but factoring in shipping I think it is probably close to an internet deal. The last 2 packs the guy had. I also have 40 rds unfired Privi, and 20 rds fired, and 20 rds unfired Hornady I found somewhere. So if anyone is curious, about 500 rds of 7.5 x 55 Swiss will fit in to one ammo can

The corners are a tight squeeze to get 6 across.

Daffy · 06-17-2009, 11:02 PM

I like that 284 resize option. Glad I stumbled on this thread.
Thought my 2 swiss' were going to end up as safe queens.

I also found that thread on converting berdan to boxer. I may try something like that on my 6.5 swedes since I have a ton of it and find it easy to deprime.

Ran across a few threads on the swiss site about berdan primes available in Canada. Someone up north drive over and bring us some back! I wonder if customs guys would have issue with that? They don't seem to like us bringing fireworks back from Mexico.

jmeck · 06-18-2009, 10:36 PM

This guy on gunbroker has 480 rnds of swiss gp11 for sale for $55 per 120 rnds.Swiss 7.5mm military surplus, 174 gr. FMJ : Rifle Ammo at GunBroker.com

Iron_Colonel · 07-02-2009, 09:40 PM

J&G just sent me an email saying they have some 7.5 x 55 Swiss in stock at the moment. Just bought some of that, and some 8mm Mauser.

generoll · 10-06-2009, 06:27 PM

here's a little tidbit that some of you might find of interest. I was at a gunshow this weekend trying to sell my K31. No takers, but some guy walked up to me with a box containing 15 rds of 7.5 ammo on five round stripper clips. The slugs were laquer coated, but the cases seemed identical so I went for it.

Next day I went shooting. 4 ftf out of 15 rds with one extra that required a double tap to fire. The ftf rounds would not extract, but came out easily when I dropped a cleaning rod down the barrel. It wasn't until I got home that a penney dropped in the slot. Do you suppose these were 7.5 MAS rounds? Anyone have any ideas? The ammo is shot off or thrown away, but curiousity prevails.

Big Dog · 10-07-2009, 09:39 AM

Could be. 7.5 French is similar to 7.5 Swiss - both are just a bit fatter than .308Win, and use .308 bullets. It never dawned on me that the French round might actually chamber in a Swiss rifle. I would NOT try it, and it brings up a possible danger for owners of both rifles. I'll caution my shooting buddy about this possibility - he owns both guns. He makes his 7.5 French loads using 6.5 Swede Mauser brass.

generoll · 10-07-2009, 04:20 PM

the french round is a 7.5x54 and the swiss a 7.5x55. I certainly wasn't thinking of it being a different round when I got it and tried to shoot it. to my failing eyes the rounds appeared identical. clearly they are not.

river · 10-12-2009, 08:59 AM

j&g have 174. fmj brass case,non corrosive,berdan primed
60rounds 36$
240 139$
480 case 259$

wolf gold fmj """"" """""" """"" """"
20 rounds 17.50
500 " 393.$

wolf gold sp
20 18$
500 399$

Hope that helps

River

Farmer · 10-14-2009, 12:32 AM

Im reloading from the privi's cause we dont got it as easy as you guys!!!!!

My privi costs me $27 a box of 20, so i only have 160 cases so far
but since im reloading i dont like shooting the factory cause their point of aim is differernt.

OKIE2 · 10-17-2009, 11:39 PM

I have 10 boxes of the 7.5x55 ammo I will sell for 50 cents a shot plus ship cost.
I am in China now but should be back home in oklahoma mid December.
Robhellast@gmail.com if interested I can have my daughter ship it to you any way you want. write me to exchange addresses

big boomer · 10-17-2009, 11:42 PM

Its always in shotgun news adds and the privi factory blew up so they will be a little slow getting more out

big boomer · 10-17-2009, 11:47 PM

7.5 french head dia .480
7.5 swiss head dia .457
tells the story you can't use one for the other or even modify the brass.
one can be made from russian cases with a lot of work the other from 303 british

06-02-2009, 09:36 AM	#21
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 12,912	Get into reloading. I use reformed .284Win cases (Privi are good too, I just haven't ordered any), use your favorite .308 bullet (I use Hornady 150 grain FMJ-BT), and your favorite powder suitable for Milsurp rifles. Bob's yer uncle! Keeps me shooting, and it's nearly as tight shooting as GP11! Check out the forum on SwissRifles.com - lots of good info on GP11 and handloading. They even show how to convert berdan cases to boxer - I'm saving all my shiny GP11 brass, in case I decide to try it. __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield

06-06-2009, 08:18 PM	#22
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,282	Good info, might be an idea to check in to. __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU!

06-16-2009, 11:59 PM	#24
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,282	I picked up some GP11 stuff today, 2 packs for $80 at a gun shop. A little pricey, but factoring in shipping I think it is probably close to an internet deal. The last 2 packs the guy had. I also have 40 rds unfired Privi, and 20 rds fired, and 20 rds unfired Hornady I found somewhere. So if anyone is curious, about 500 rds of 7.5 x 55 Swiss will fit in to one ammo can The corners are a tight squeeze to get 6 across. __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU!

06-18-2009, 10:36 PM	#26
jmeck Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NC Posts: 683	This guy on gunbroker has 480 rnds of swiss gp11 for sale for $55 per 120 rnds.Swiss 7.5mm military surplus, 174 gr. FMJ : Rifle Ammo at GunBroker.com __________________ Just because I can't explain why its done this way,does't necessarily mean you can do it differently

07-02-2009, 09:40 PM	#27
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,282	J&G just sent me an email saying they have some 7.5 x 55 Swiss in stock at the moment. Just bought some of that, and some 8mm Mauser. __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU!

06-08-2009, 03:39 PM	#23
TheHighlander Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 39	Samco has original GP11 now for $0.50 a shot! You can buy 480 round cases too! Welcome to Samco Global Arms, Inc.

06-17-2009, 11:02 PM	#25
Daffy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 117	I like that 284 resize option. Glad I stumbled on this thread. Thought my 2 swiss' were going to end up as safe queens. I also found that thread on converting berdan to boxer. I may try something like that on my 6.5 swedes since I have a ton of it and find it easy to deprime. Ran across a few threads on the swiss site about berdan primes available in Canada. Someone up north drive over and bring us some back! I wonder if customs guys would have issue with that? They don't seem to like us bringing fireworks back from Mexico.

10-06-2009, 06:27 PM	#28
generoll Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Branson, MO Posts: 259	here's a little tidbit that some of you might find of interest. I was at a gunshow this weekend trying to sell my K31. No takers, but some guy walked up to me with a box containing 15 rds of 7.5 ammo on five round stripper clips. The slugs were laquer coated, but the cases seemed identical so I went for it. Next day I went shooting. 4 ftf out of 15 rds with one extra that required a double tap to fire. The ftf rounds would not extract, but came out easily when I dropped a cleaning rod down the barrel. It wasn't until I got home that a penney dropped in the slot. Do you suppose these were 7.5 MAS rounds? Anyone have any ideas? The ammo is shot off or thrown away, but curiousity prevails.

10-07-2009, 09:39 AM	#29
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 12,912	Could be. 7.5 French is similar to 7.5 Swiss - both are just a bit fatter than .308Win, and use .308 bullets. It never dawned on me that the French round might actually chamber in a Swiss rifle. I would NOT try it, and it brings up a possible danger for owners of both rifles. I'll caution my shooting buddy about this possibility - he owns both guns. He makes his 7.5 French loads using 6.5 Swede Mauser brass. __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield

10-07-2009, 04:20 PM	#30
generoll Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Branson, MO Posts: 259	the french round is a 7.5x54 and the swiss a 7.5x55. I certainly wasn't thinking of it being a different round when I got it and tried to shoot it. to my failing eyes the rounds appeared identical. clearly they are not.

10-12-2009, 08:59 AM	#31
river Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: the green hills of Kentucky Posts: 9	j&g have 174. fmj brass case,non corrosive,berdan primed 60rounds 36$ 240 139$ 480 case 259$ wolf gold fmj """"" """""" """"" """" 20 rounds 17.50 500 " 393.$ wolf gold sp 20 18$ 500 399$ Hope that helps River

10-14-2009, 12:32 AM	#32
Farmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Limbri NSW Au Posts: 496	Im reloading from the privi's cause we dont got it as easy as you guys!!!!! My privi costs me $27 a box of 20, so i only have 160 cases so far but since im reloading i dont like shooting the factory cause their point of aim is differernt. __________________ Cheers, Rob I'm into gun control - I always use both hands!!!!!!!

10-17-2009, 11:39 PM	#33
OKIE2 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 16	I have 10 boxes of the 7.5x55 ammo I will sell for 50 cents a shot plus ship cost. I am in China now but should be back home in oklahoma mid December. Robhellast@gmail.com if interested I can have my daughter ship it to you any way you want. write me to exchange addresses

10-17-2009, 11:42 PM	#34
big boomer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn. Posts: 2,310	Its always in shotgun news adds and the privi factory blew up so they will be a little slow getting more out

10-17-2009, 11:47 PM	#35
big boomer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn. Posts: 2,310	7.5 french head dia .480 7.5 swiss head dia .457 tells the story you can't use one for the other or even modify the brass. one can be made from russian cases with a lot of work the other from 303 british