To All the Taurus Haters

ArkansasHunter · 01-10-2008, 09:58 AM

Why is this Thread named Taurus Haters ??? !!! It should be Lovers

Though I don't own a Taurus there are some models I'd like to have and one of them is the blued 1911 their loaded with a lot of custom features and the price is fair.
A.H

gandog56 · 01-11-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by micallen

With or without the laser grips??

I bought my 2 1911's without them, both of them now wear them!

9mmfan · 01-15-2008, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ghost_raven

9mmfan- my brother, who owns two GLOCKs (a 9mm and a .45), is even a little jealous of my Taurus 1911... well, until it comes to cleaning time. A GLOCK is a lot easier to disassemble and reassemble than any 1911.

I don't know anything about the Taurus 1911. The only Taurus I own is the PT92 in S.S. It's also the only Taurus I have ever shot. It's made stronger than the Beretta 92FS. A thicker slide and frame. So far it's been one of the best handguns I have ever owned. Most people say that simi-autos need a break in period, mine didn't. I have shot 300 rounds right out of the box, so far and not a jam or mis-fire.

ghost_raven · 01-15-2008, 03:16 AM

Same here with my 1911... only one jam, but that was because of the bullet, not the gun. It jammed on that same bullet more than once, but was fine once I said "screw it" and ejected the damn thing.

Shotgun Willie · 01-16-2008, 10:15 AM

I sure hope you folks are right about Taurus being a good product because I just laid out nearly a thousand bucks buying two new Judge Ultra Lites that I haven't even shot yet.

I'm not qualified to judge the metallurgy, but the design seems sound. The fit and finish is equal to if not better than any S&W, Colt or Ruger product I ever had. A lifetime warranty is only as good as the company backing it, but I sure like what I see so far.

I'll keep the group posted if I have trouble. A friend of mine in Arizona has two on order and one is ready for him to pick up today with the other one still backordered. As time goes on, I'll post his experience too.

gandog56 · 01-16-2008, 02:31 PM

Wish I had a picture of my 1911 with CT Laser Grips. Alas, my camera bit the big one.

PAshooter · 02-01-2008, 03:36 PM

"Hater" I dunno.... on my 4th shot of this brand new 608...with factory loads...you be the judge. I got lucky it didn't take a finger off. And the quality is much better then the customer service!

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Shotgun Willie · 02-01-2008, 05:04 PM

Well, that's sure scary. In your opinion, did the barrel threads break off leaving a portion in the receiver, or did the barrel threads strip out in the receiver, or what do you think happened? I can't tell from the photo if there are still some threaded metal inside the receiver or not.

Would you care to share your experience with their Customer Service dept?

ArkansasHunter · 02-01-2008, 05:09 PM

I hope he comes back and explains more.

billy · 02-01-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

I hope he comes back and explains more.

yeah me too.
do barrels just fall off of any type of gun often?
it's new to me!

Shotgun Willie · 02-01-2008, 05:23 PM

Me too. I've owned a lot of guns and the only problem I've ever had with any of them was some special heavy handloads in .45 LC shaking the scope loose on a Thompson Contender.

But I've never owned any Taurus products until now when I've bought two new Judge's which I haven't had a chance to fire yet, and a used Taurus model 85 in .38 Special with a bobbed hammer I just bought last week.

So far from what I've read it seems like if you are going to have trouble with a Taurus it happens early on indicating quality control problems to me.

I hope he will give us more information.

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Originally Posted by billy

yeah me too.
do barrels just fall off of any type of gun often?
it's new to me!

Never happened to me before.

billy · 02-01-2008, 05:27 PM

i bought a used raging bull .454casull and have fired it maybe 125 times.
nope....
the barrels is still there.

samuel · 02-01-2008, 05:32 PM

I am very suspicious,especially the way he wrote the post.No real story.I can see threads that indicate it didnt fly off.I delt with Taurus several times with no problems,but once I sent them a M60 with two chambers expanded that I bought used,it was a six shot.They sent a brand new seven shot back. samuel.

billy · 02-01-2008, 05:38 PM

i dont think i buy it either.
his 2nd post he drops a bomb like that with no explanation.

Shotgun Willie · 02-01-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by samuel

I am very suspicious,especially the way he wrote the post.No real story.I can see threads that indicate it didnt fly off.I delt with Taurus several times with no problems,but once I sent them a M60 with two chambers expanded that I bought used,it was a six shot.They sent a brand new seven shot back. samuel.

I certainly don't want to question the integrity of a fellow gun guy, and I admit I don't know how long the threaded portion of a gun barrel is supposed to be, but since a gun firing is a controlled explosion and that one was out of control to do that, I am surprised there isn't some damage showing. I once saw an over-and-under shotgun that something caused one of the barrels to split, and there was plenty of evidence that a violent, out of contol event had happened. I'd appreciate it if he would share more details with us. I don't understand why the threads aren't ripped asunder by the barrel being violently forced from within the receiver.

mosineer · 02-01-2008, 06:35 PM

Willie, can't wait to hear your reaction to the Judge. I have shot about everything you can shoot through mine with no problems. Including +P rounds ( which I have found out since, there is a disclaimer not to use ). It is fun, efficient and accurate. I have three Taurus's and had no problems. You can have problems with any fire arm, but so far Taurus has been great. I to am curious about PAshooters post, like more info....

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PAshooter · 02-01-2008, 08:28 PM

Sorry, I wasn't here when you guys got on.
The barrel broke at the threads. I wish I could explain more. I probably have less experience than you'all and am unsure exactly what happened. I was using factory remington .357 loads. I'll be happy to answer anything I can. It was kinda scary but now I'm just mad at Taurus for how they are handling the warranty.

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Originally Posted by billy

i dont think i buy it either.
his 2nd post he drops a bomb like that with no explanation.

I can't post any more pictures till monday but there are a few more close up shots. I will do that on Monday. It is odd, every person at the rang and every other person I have mentioned it to, says they have never heard of a gun doing that. My bad luck apparently.

mango · 02-01-2008, 08:53 PM

had a 357 taurus revolver(new)if you stood of to either side about 6 feet from it you got hit with powder and lead shavings,ait no fun gettin powder burned.i went with colt and have never looked back.

PAshooter · 02-01-2008, 09:03 PM

Full story: Brand new gun. Did as thorough a check as I can. Cleaned out the excess oil. Made sure the barrel lined up perfectly. Loaded up with .38 spec rounds. Fired as expected. 8 more .38's and all was good, nice gun. loaded up with .357 Mag ammo, on the 4th shot, a violent jerk feel. The barrel came off and was all the way down range. A look into the chamber after it was unloaded and the alignment is now off. I've spoken to Customer service once a week since I sent it to Miami and every week the "managers" are away and will be back in a week or so. They will review it then and take care of the problem. I did think and expect, based on the circumstances, they would jump on it and take care of me. But it seems my gun has been put in line with all other warrenty claims. When I posted my first note, I just got off the phone with customer service and was (and still am) very frustrated.

Mango: that's not good. definitely try to avoid powder burn. Most things I hear about Taurus are good. Unfortunately, I got very unlucky with the product but I guess I'm lucky I still have a hand. Maybe that's overstating it, though.

samuel · 02-01-2008, 09:54 PM

Now I believe you are lejit.What I dont understand is you say the barrel broke at the threads.I can see the threads and they look okay.Did it strip the threads out of the frame?The only thing I had happen similar was a colt that was out of time and the bullet hit the forcing cone and cracked it.There was a crack in the bottom but hte bullet went out.One thing I was wondering,you say you were shooting .38,s.Did all of those function right?Could one have lodged?I wouldnt get too nervous about Taurus,they will get there,probably just one of those chain of command things.You can bet since they have it you will never find out what happened.Next time weld the barrel to the frame before you start shooting.Just joking. sam.

01-15-2008, 03:16 AM	#104
ghost_raven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 408	Same here with my 1911... only one jam, but that was because of the bullet, not the gun. It jammed on that same bullet more than once, but was fine once I said "screw it" and ejected the damn thing. __________________ The First Amendment defines America, the Second Amendment defends it.

01-16-2008, 10:15 AM	#105
Shotgun Willie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ft Worth, Texas Posts: 9	I sure hope you folks are right about Taurus being a good product... I sure hope you folks are right about Taurus being a good product because I just laid out nearly a thousand bucks buying two new Judge Ultra Lites that I haven't even shot yet. I'm not qualified to judge the metallurgy, but the design seems sound. The fit and finish is equal to if not better than any S&W, Colt or Ruger product I ever had. A lifetime warranty is only as good as the company backing it, but I sure like what I see so far. I'll keep the group posted if I have trouble. A friend of mine in Arizona has two on order and one is ready for him to pick up today with the other one still backordered. As time goes on, I'll post his experience too.

02-01-2008, 03:36 PM	#107
PAshooter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6	Taurus Quality "Hater" I dunno.... on my 4th shot of this brand new 608...with factory loads...you be the judge. I got lucky it didn't take a finger off. And the quality is much better then the customer service! Attachment 7220 Last edited by Oxford; 07-03-2008 at 06:20 PM.

02-01-2008, 05:04 PM	#108
Shotgun Willie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ft Worth, Texas Posts: 9	Wow. Well, that's sure scary. In your opinion, did the barrel threads break off leaving a portion in the receiver, or did the barrel threads strip out in the receiver, or what do you think happened? I can't tell from the photo if there are still some threaded metal inside the receiver or not. Would you care to share your experience with their Customer Service dept?

02-01-2008, 05:27 PM	#112
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,347 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	i bought a used raging bull .454casull and have fired it maybe 125 times. nope.... the barrels is still there. __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell

01-10-2008, 09:58 AM	#101
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,998	Why is this Thread named Taurus Haters ??? !!! It should be Lovers Though I don't own a Taurus there are some models I'd like to have and one of them is the blued 1911 their loaded with a lot of custom features and the price is fair. A.H

01-16-2008, 02:31 PM	#106
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 5,691	Wish I had a picture of my 1911 with CT Laser Grips. Alas, my camera bit the big one.

02-01-2008, 05:09 PM	#109
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,998	I hope he comes back and explains more.

02-01-2008, 05:32 PM	#113
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,237	I am very suspicious,especially the way he wrote the post.No real story.I can see threads that indicate it didnt fly off.I delt with Taurus several times with no problems,but once I sent them a M60 with two chambers expanded that I bought used,it was a six shot.They sent a brand new seven shot back. samuel.

02-01-2008, 05:38 PM	#114
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,347 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	i dont think i buy it either. his 2nd post he drops a bomb like that with no explanation. __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell

02-01-2008, 06:35 PM	#116
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,372	Willie, can't wait to hear your reaction to the Judge. I have shot about everything you can shoot through mine with no problems. Including +P rounds ( which I have found out since, there is a disclaimer not to use ). It is fun, efficient and accurate. I have three Taurus's and had no problems. You can have problems with any fire arm, but so far Taurus has been great. I to am curious about PAshooters post, like more info.... *************************************************** All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing**

02-01-2008, 08:53 PM	#118
mango Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8	had a 357 taurus revolver(new)if you stood of to either side about 6 feet from it you got hit with powder and lead shavings,ait no fun gettin powder burned.i went with colt and have never looked back.

02-01-2008, 09:03 PM	#119
PAshooter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6	Full story: Brand new gun. Did as thorough a check as I can. Cleaned out the excess oil. Made sure the barrel lined up perfectly. Loaded up with .38 spec rounds. Fired as expected. 8 more .38's and all was good, nice gun. loaded up with .357 Mag ammo, on the 4th shot, a violent jerk feel. The barrel came off and was all the way down range. A look into the chamber after it was unloaded and the alignment is now off. I've spoken to Customer service once a week since I sent it to Miami and every week the "managers" are away and will be back in a week or so. They will review it then and take care of the problem. I did think and expect, based on the circumstances, they would jump on it and take care of me. But it seems my gun has been put in line with all other warrenty claims. When I posted my first note, I just got off the phone with customer service and was (and still am) very frustrated. Mango: that's not good. definitely try to avoid powder burn. Most things I hear about Taurus are good. Unfortunately, I got very unlucky with the product but I guess I'm lucky I still have a hand. Maybe that's overstating it, though. Last edited by PAshooter; 02-01-2008 at 09:07 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

02-01-2008, 09:54 PM	#120
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,237	Now I believe you are lejit.What I dont understand is you say the barrel broke at the threads.I can see the threads and they look okay.Did it strip the threads out of the frame?The only thing I had happen similar was a colt that was out of time and the bullet hit the forcing cone and cracked it.There was a crack in the bottom but hte bullet went out.One thing I was wondering,you say you were shooting .38,s.Did all of those function right?Could one have lodged?I wouldnt get too nervous about Taurus,they will get there,probably just one of those chain of command things.You can bet since they have it you will never find out what happened.Next time weld the barrel to the frame before you start shooting.Just joking. sam.