To All the Taurus Haters

louiethelump · 02-25-2008, 01:08 AM

I have been guilty of that. BUT, I just took delivery of a Gaucho and it appears to be well made, and well finished. The barrel cylinder gap is close and it locks up tight and times correctly. So, maybe I am going to be converted. Shooting it will tell the story.

Louie

bcar001 · 02-26-2008, 03:18 PM

So wait I just bought a Taurus judge......is this gun made in USA or what. Also is the repair facility in Miami. If so thats just down the street from me

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Thanks

Jettty Jay · 02-26-2008, 10:06 PM

I have a gaucho in .357 and love it. and I was just looking at the judge too. I have a bond arms derringer in 45long colt and 410 which is a neat little gun for shooting snakes on my property. ~JJ~

gregkilo · 02-26-2008, 10:27 PM

just to clarify, mu taurus experiences were in mid eighties to early 90s. Dont know about present day taurus quality, but the earlier ones just wouldnt stay timed when fired on a regular basis. Ive seen guys on the range two or three lanes away catch lead shavings from .38 wadcutters in a taurus. Ive seen all types of wheel guns do it at one time or another. Maybe it was just the codwetters?

TXplt · 02-26-2008, 10:31 PM

Older Tauruses did definitely have quality issues -- I had a 4" BBL .38 bought in the late 70's or early 80's (as best I can recall) which was a piece of work. First Taurus I bought after that was a 4" BBL Stainless .357 in the mid-90's which has been a great gun. No other major problems with any others I've owned.

gregkilo · 02-26-2008, 10:37 PM

BTW I was one of the guys that caught the shavings, thats why I called em cod wetters, cause they almost made wet mine! Aw shucks what good memories, 15 or 16 guys on the line firing double taps in unison...........

TXplt · 02-26-2008, 10:51 PM

Never had that happen.....I did have some commercial ammo make a couple of big booms and when I tried to extract it fractured the casehead from the cartridge (flattened primers, etc.). The cartridge sleeves were imbedded in the charge holes, and I had to pound them out much later. This definitely gave me pause. Guess I'm lucky.

Jettty Jay · 02-26-2008, 10:58 PM

I have read that the new Taurus facility is high tech and that the quality is much better than in earlier years. I own some later model taurus guns and I am impressed with them. I have other guns as well. Ruger, colt, glock to judge them by. I think they a re good guns TJMO.~JJ~

bcar001 · 02-27-2008, 12:34 AM

May be a dumb question but be nice I'm pretty new to this stuff. I've always just borrowed my brothers stuff. Thats why I went with taurus judge. Something different that none of any of us have. Whats the deal with grain with the ammo. So far I bought 225 grain. Is that the right type for this gun.

TXplt · 02-27-2008, 02:46 PM

You can use any standard pressure .45 colt in the Judge. Common are 200 Gr Gold Dot, the Lead Federals, and the 255 Grain Keith.

As far as shotshells, there are 2 variants. Mine are the 2 1/2" not the 3". Be sure to get the size shotshells--it's easy to buy the wrong ones. #4 and #6 shot work fine, and can use whatever .410 bore birdshot you like. Winchester makes 000 buckshot in both sizes (3 and 5 pellets respectively). The rifled slug weighs around 100 grains and is about as fast as a .357 so there's no real advantage in using it other than it's fun to shoot (and maybe if you were worried about some specialty applications or overpenetration).

Here's a link to some .45's that work well for me for general and defensive use. The federals are probably a better choice for target practice because they're cheaper. You can buy any non +P round for target practice if you find a good deal.

Product Line Listing

bcar001 · 02-27-2008, 11:29 PM

Just picked up the Taurus judge today. Really nice gun. I got the Stainless Steel. Feels real nice and balanced and I really love the grip. We will see how she shoots. The only thing that stinks is that the ammo is expensive.

azgunnut01 · 02-27-2008, 11:59 PM

I had problems with a Taurus 92. Contacted Taurus, sent it back, they fixed it and I haven't had a problem with it since. Great service, great gun, however, I don't like the PTs. But I have never like every gun any manufacturer made.

TXplt · 02-29-2008, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azgunnut01

I had problems with a Taurus 92. Contacted Taurus, sent it back, they fixed it and I haven't had a problem with it since. Great service, great gun, however, I don't like the PTs. But I have never like every gun any manufacturer made.

I haven't either, have had excellent results with my Tauruses, and will continue to rely on them for car/home defense. Also own and use Smiths and Glock as carry guns as well (as well as even Charter from time to time).

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcar001

Just picked up the Taurus judge today. Really nice gun. I got the Stainless Steel. Feels real nice and balanced and I really love the grip. We will see how she shoots. The only thing that stinks is that the ammo is expensive.

Enjoy the Shooting. I've found the Federal SWCHP as the cheapest for practice, but you might find a better deal. Gotta get around to busting clays with mine someday soon.

Cheers !

bcar001 · 03-02-2008, 05:55 PM

I finally got a chance to shoot my Taurus Judge the other day. For what it is I thought it shot really nice. Pretty accurate at 7yds and at 14yds. She had a nice kick to her but that rubbery handle actually really came in handy and was quite comfortable.

TXplt · 03-02-2008, 06:28 PM

Glad you liked it !! Point shooting with the shotshells and buckshot can be a blast.

Jettty Jay · 03-03-2008, 03:04 AM

How can you compare a raven, which is a "saturday night special" POS. To a late model Taurus?
I have a titanium revolver in .38, A stainless 357 & .38, a Gaucho in 357 and a Millenium pro 9mm. And all of them function perfectly and are accurate to boot.
I have no idea about their repair or warranty policy, I have not had to send any of the above mentioned back for service.
I own several S&W, Colts, Rugers, Bond arms (Snake Slayer).
I am not partial to Taurus. But as far as I am concerned, They make a decent gun at a good price. I had a Rossi pump .22 ("gallery gun") which I put thousands of rounds through. Which was my favorite plinking toy. It was stolen, a few years ago. Since Taurus took over Rossi, I have wanted the new Taurus version model 62 stainless carbine pump. And it appears to be sold out every where I look. Or on back order.
I guess like most guns there are fans and haters. I just bought a Benelli Montefeltro super 90 12 guage. Half the world loves em, half the world knocks em. So to each his own ~JJ~

Taurus Fan · 03-08-2008, 01:30 PM

I've had 3 Taurus autoloaders, love 'em. I've owned 4 Colt Government Model .45's, all of them would occasionally give me a jam that I would alibi and make excuses for because of ammo or bad magazine or weak grip or not holding my mouth right or whatever. Old reliable indeed. Never a malfunction with my Taurus's. Ever.
But I know someone who had a friend that shot a Taurus once and it didn't work and someone else heard that their lifetime warranty service was bad so they must suck, because they're cheap and made in Brazil, right?

gandog56 · 04-06-2008, 11:24 AM

It still seems like the people that actually own them, love them. It's the people who would "never" own such a trashy gun who bellyache the most.

oak1971 · 04-12-2008, 11:25 AM

Taurus haters can bite me. I have a PT99 that is near 20 yrs old, has thousands of round through it and never needs anything but a cleaning once in a while. I have shot FMJ HP handloads and just about every brand of ammo you can name with 0 Failures to Feed Failures to Eject or any other problems Period. I have a M44 that has brought down deer in one shot. I use my own handloads in that with 0 problems. I had a PT1911 that performed flawlessly after thousands of hot handloads. HP even. the only reason I don't have the PT1911 is I needed to trade in toward My Les Baer and I was short on cash. I just ordered a PT145 which will be here next week. It will join my PT99, M44, Ruger Security 6, Les Baer 1911, Ruger Mk 3 target, Armalite AR10 308 carbine, Armalite M15 Carbine, 1965 Winchester 94 and Marlin 30/30. None of which will mind one bit that it was made in South America. American companies could offer superior weapons with similar pricing. They choose not to. Les Baer is the exception. He offers true custom 1911's with a guarantee of accuracy and no hassle customer service. He even tests each one himself. And does all this for thousands less than the competition. Other manufactures should learn from his example and no one would be interested in "south american" guns.

gandog56 · 04-12-2008, 11:28 AM

Waiting for a Mooseman reply, here.

02-26-2008, 03:18 PM	#142
bcar001 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4	So wait I just bought a Taurus judge......is this gun made in USA or what. Also is the repair facility in Miami. If so thats just down the street from me. Thanks

02-26-2008, 10:31 PM	#145
TXplt Conservative in Exile Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 3,194 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	Older Tauruses did definitely have quality issues -- I had a 4" BBL .38 bought in the late 70's or early 80's (as best I can recall) which was a piece of work. First Taurus I bought after that was a 4" BBL Stainless .357 in the mid-90's which has been a great gun. No other major problems with any others I've owned. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

02-26-2008, 10:51 PM	#147
TXplt Conservative in Exile Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 3,194 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	Never had that happen.....I did have some commercial ammo make a couple of big booms and when I tried to extract it fractured the casehead from the cartridge (flattened primers, etc.). The cartridge sleeves were imbedded in the charge holes, and I had to pound them out much later. This definitely gave me pause. Guess I'm lucky. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

02-27-2008, 02:46 PM	#150
TXplt Conservative in Exile Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 3,194 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	You can use any standard pressure .45 colt in the Judge. Common are 200 Gr Gold Dot, the Lead Federals, and the 255 Grain Keith. As far as shotshells, there are 2 variants. Mine are the 2 1/2" not the 3". Be sure to get the size shotshells--it's easy to buy the wrong ones. #4 and #6 shot work fine, and can use whatever .410 bore birdshot you like. Winchester makes 000 buckshot in both sizes (3 and 5 pellets respectively). The rifled slug weighs around 100 grains and is about as fast as a .357 so there's no real advantage in using it other than it's fun to shoot (and maybe if you were worried about some specialty applications or overpenetration). Here's a link to some .45's that work well for me for general and defensive use. The federals are probably a better choice for target practice because they're cheaper. You can buy any non +P round for target practice if you find a good deal. Product Line Listing __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

03-02-2008, 06:28 PM	#155
TXplt Conservative in Exile Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 3,194 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	Glad you liked it !! Point shooting with the shotshells and buckshot can be a blast. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

02-25-2008, 01:08 AM	#141
louiethelump Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Webster, Florida Posts: 7	I have been guilty of that. BUT, I just took delivery of a Gaucho and it appears to be well made, and well finished. The barrel cylinder gap is close and it locks up tight and times correctly. So, maybe I am going to be converted. Shooting it will tell the story. Louie

02-26-2008, 10:06 PM	#143
Jettty Jay Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 58	I have a gaucho in .357 and love it. and I was just looking at the judge too. I have a bond arms derringer in 45long colt and 410 which is a neat little gun for shooting snakes on my property. ~JJ~

02-26-2008, 10:27 PM	#144
gregkilo Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherokee Co. Alabama Posts: 67	just to clarify, mu taurus experiences were in mid eighties to early 90s. Dont know about present day taurus quality, but the earlier ones just wouldnt stay timed when fired on a regular basis. Ive seen guys on the range two or three lanes away catch lead shavings from .38 wadcutters in a taurus. Ive seen all types of wheel guns do it at one time or another. Maybe it was just the codwetters?

02-26-2008, 10:37 PM	#146
gregkilo Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherokee Co. Alabama Posts: 67	BTW I was one of the guys that caught the shavings, thats why I called em cod wetters, cause they almost made wet mine! Aw shucks what good memories, 15 or 16 guys on the line firing double taps in unison...........

02-26-2008, 10:58 PM	#148
Jettty Jay Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 58	I have read that the new Taurus facility is high tech and that the quality is much better than in earlier years. I own some later model taurus guns and I am impressed with them. I have other guns as well. Ruger, colt, glock to judge them by. I think they a re good guns TJMO.~JJ~

02-27-2008, 12:34 AM	#149
bcar001 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4	May be a dumb question but be nice I'm pretty new to this stuff. I've always just borrowed my brothers stuff. Thats why I went with taurus judge. Something different that none of any of us have. Whats the deal with grain with the ammo. So far I bought 225 grain. Is that the right type for this gun.

02-27-2008, 11:29 PM	#151
bcar001 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4	Just picked up the Taurus judge today. Really nice gun. I got the Stainless Steel. Feels real nice and balanced and I really love the grip. We will see how she shoots. The only thing that stinks is that the ammo is expensive.

02-27-2008, 11:59 PM	#152
azgunnut01 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 167	I had problems with a Taurus 92. Contacted Taurus, sent it back, they fixed it and I haven't had a problem with it since. Great service, great gun, however, I don't like the PTs. But I have never like every gun any manufacturer made.

03-02-2008, 05:55 PM	#154
bcar001 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4	I finally got a chance to shoot my Taurus Judge the other day. For what it is I thought it shot really nice. Pretty accurate at 7yds and at 14yds. She had a nice kick to her but that rubbery handle actually really came in handy and was quite comfortable.

03-03-2008, 03:04 AM	#156
Jettty Jay Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 58	How can you compare a raven, which is a "saturday night special" POS. To a late model Taurus? I have a titanium revolver in .38, A stainless 357 & .38, a Gaucho in 357 and a Millenium pro 9mm. And all of them function perfectly and are accurate to boot. I have no idea about their repair or warranty policy, I have not had to send any of the above mentioned back for service. I own several S&W, Colts, Rugers, Bond arms (Snake Slayer). I am not partial to Taurus. But as far as I am concerned, They make a decent gun at a good price. I had a Rossi pump .22 ("gallery gun") which I put thousands of rounds through. Which was my favorite plinking toy. It was stolen, a few years ago. Since Taurus took over Rossi, I have wanted the new Taurus version model 62 stainless carbine pump. And it appears to be sold out every where I look. Or on back order. I guess like most guns there are fans and haters. I just bought a Benelli Montefeltro super 90 12 guage. Half the world loves em, half the world knocks em. So to each his own ~JJ~

03-08-2008, 01:30 PM	#157
Taurus Fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cobra Command Headquarters Posts: 903	I've had 3 Taurus autoloaders, love 'em. I've owned 4 Colt Government Model .45's, all of them would occasionally give me a jam that I would alibi and make excuses for because of ammo or bad magazine or weak grip or not holding my mouth right or whatever. Old reliable indeed. Never a malfunction with my Taurus's. Ever. But I know someone who had a friend that shot a Taurus once and it didn't work and someone else heard that their lifetime warranty service was bad so they must suck, because they're cheap and made in Brazil, right?

04-06-2008, 11:24 AM	#158
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 5,692	It still seems like the people that actually own them, love them. It's the people who would "never" own such a trashy gun who bellyache the most.

04-12-2008, 11:25 AM	#159
oak1971 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: midwest Posts: 3	Taurus haters can bite me. I have a PT99 that is near 20 yrs old, has thousands of round through it and never needs anything but a cleaning once in a while. I have shot FMJ HP handloads and just about every brand of ammo you can name with 0 Failures to Feed Failures to Eject or any other problems Period. I have a M44 that has brought down deer in one shot. I use my own handloads in that with 0 problems. I had a PT1911 that performed flawlessly after thousands of hot handloads. HP even. the only reason I don't have the PT1911 is I needed to trade in toward My Les Baer and I was short on cash. I just ordered a PT145 which will be here next week. It will join my PT99, M44, Ruger Security 6, Les Baer 1911, Ruger Mk 3 target, Armalite AR10 308 carbine, Armalite M15 Carbine, 1965 Winchester 94 and Marlin 30/30. None of which will mind one bit that it was made in South America. American companies could offer superior weapons with similar pricing. They choose not to. Les Baer is the exception. He offers true custom 1911's with a guarantee of accuracy and no hassle customer service. He even tests each one himself. And does all this for thousands less than the competition. Other manufactures should learn from his example and no one would be interested in "south american" guns.

04-12-2008, 11:28 AM	#160
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 5,692	Waiting for a Mooseman reply, here.