[SgtKnuckles]

KW Gary M,...
~If your shooting BG's at more than 25' in a Self Defense situation, the Judge is going to consider you Offensive when the case goes to court...
~Think about getting Hit by 3 or 5 (.360) Buck Balls simotainiously... Aim center mass, and all ball will hit the BG... Note the FPS...(that's Bad News for the BG)
~ http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img353/1920/judge1fr9.jpg
Product Symbol: XB41000
Gauge: 410
Shell Length: 2-1/2
Velocity (in.): 1300
Powder Dram Equiv: N/A
Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm
# of Balls: 3
~
Product Symbol: XB413
Gauge: 410
Shell Length: 3
Velocity (in.): 1135
Powder Dram Equiv: N/A
Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm
# of Balls: 5
For superior Buckshot performance, you can't beat the stopping power of Winchester Buckshot loads.

[KW Gary M]

Quote:       Originally Posted by SgtKnuckles

KW Gary M,... ~If your shooting BG's at more than 25' in a Self Defense situation, the Judge is going to consider you Offensive when the case goes to court... ~Think about getting Hit by 3 or 5 (.360) Buck Balls simotainiously... Aim center mass, and all ball will hit the BG... Note the FPS...(that's Bad News for the BG) ~ http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img353/1920/judge1fr9.jpg Product Symbol: XB41000 Gauge: 410 Shell Length: 2-1/2 Velocity (in.): 1300 Powder Dram Equiv: N/A Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm # of Balls: 3 ~ Product Symbol: XB413 Gauge: 410 Shell Length: 3 Velocity (in.): 1135 Powder Dram Equiv: N/A Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm # of Balls: 5 For superior Buckshot performance, you can't beat the stopping power of Winchester Buckshot loads.

I wouldn't want more that 25 feet. I was thinking more like 15 feet or less. Doesn't loose any knock down power from say, 10 to 15 feet?

[SgtKnuckles]

"Judge's Are Meat Grinder's Plain and Simple...
NOTE: The 2 1/2" Judge ~ You can empty the Gun in just under Two Seconds (1 1/2) That would put 15 000 Buck on target will mess up a BG's day...!!! Point and Shoot Babe~Point and Shoot Babe... Theres no place for a BG to hide from an instant Barrage like that...!!!
3" MAG, puts 25 000 Buck Balls on BG in less than 2 second... Your putting Balls on target, faster than a Semi-Auto by far... We must not forget the .45 Colt for a Combo Load-up, just to have a little Fun With The BG...<:-))
~Here is some Target Groupings for a Idea of what to Expect at Defense Ranges~
http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-UltraLiteJudge.htm

[SKS NOOB]

YouTube - Taurus Judge used by Mark Wahlberg in Max Payne Movie

YouTube - Taurus Judge used by Mark Wahlberg in Max Payne Movie

GO to the 3:02 mark.

[Netwitt]

Hello all,

May I ask some opinions? There is a Taurus Judge (6.5" barrel, stainless) at the local gunshop. Supposedly someone bought it, took it home and shot it, decided he wanted something to conceal, brought it back and traded it. The price is $420. Does this seem like a fair price? I'm not too 'savvy' on pricing, especially on this piece.

Thanks much.
netwitt

[JMcDonald]

From what I've read, velocities of the 2.5" Winchester buckshot loads are near 900fps, making it about like getting hit by three .380acp FMJ rounds. Definately still plenty lethal (especially compared to your average handgun). The 3" load with five pellets seemed to do about 650fps, which is still like getting shot by five mildly expanding .32acps so, of course, it is no slouch either. I'd imagine penetration wouldn't be an issue with either load.

[longbow]

my question on the judge is other than the the Taurus key lock is there any other safety. I never owned a revolver before and I thought there might be another safety

[blat]

Quote:       Originally Posted by longbow

my question on the judge is other than the the Taurus key lock is there any other safety. I never owned a revolver before and I thought there might be another safety

They, like most revolvers, have a tranfer bar; the hammer never touches the firing pin. When the trigger is pulled, this bar rises up to transfer the hammer blow to the firing pin, then releasing the trigger allows the bar to drop back out of contact with the firing pin. Generally, revolvers do not have, or need, a manual safety.

[blat]

I got a grip for my Judge that is smaller and thinner than the "ribber; it's the grip the put on their 617 357. It's neoprene, with finger grooves and a "pebbled" texture. The gun feels good with them; recoil is more pronounced, but they will help this gun be easier to conceal.

[SgtKnuckles]

Quote:       Originally Posted by blat

They, like most revolvers, have a tranfer bar; the hammer never touches the firing pin. When the trigger is pulled, this bar rises up to transfer the hammer blow to the firing pin, then releasing the trigger allows the bar to drop back out of contact with the firing pin. Generally, revolvers do not have, or need, a manual safety.

Right On blat....<:-))

[Jonthemac10]

Quote:       Originally Posted by carttaurus

My biggest question is what are the other manufacturers doing as far as possi- bly creating a Judge. Just can't see them not doing anything while Taurus is making all this money. I would just bet their strategy is just to see how the Judge does and try to improve on any weaknesses.

The only other company that is making a .410/.45LC combo is Magnum research, but their gun is extremely expensive, BUT the barrel is 7.5'' long instead of what Taurus offers, and handles 2.5'' and 3'' shells.

Magnum Research

[Jonthemac10]

Here is another that I had to dig around for... a Thunder 5. The only page I found a picture of was here:

Thunder 5

But other than that it seems that Thunder 5 has gone under and isn't in production anymore.

[hburner]

Hello all, I just joined the forum and just purchased my UL SS 2.5 chamber 3in barrel 2 weeks ago and I love it.

Just wandering, I see all these descriptions about the 2.5 chamber and the 3 inch chamber both with the 3 in barrel and yet they all say the overall length is still 9.5 in.

Anybody notice this also, and is it true, if so, how? hb.

[xixxt]

Hello Thread!

After just firing off a couple of boxes of 2 1/2 in Federal Hand Ammo I must say I am impressed! Standard 2 1/2 shells spread out of my Public Defender about 12 to 18 inches at 8 yards. I was seriously thinking about NOT using them because I was worried about bystanders. But with the Federal Ammo I got consistent groups around the size of baseball at 8 yards! WOW!

The shot in the Federal ammo is brass plated and slightly smaller. Smaller due to a sleeve that holds the shot. It is my belief that due to the smaller size of the shot AND that it is contained in this sleeve that it makes less contact with the rifling in the bore producing tighter groups.

~x~

[littleman]

They are "neat" guns( if that phrase is still in use); but I had two of them, and both gave problems. Months of attempts to contact Taurus were totally fruitless. So, I got rid of them both and bought things such as a Kahr P 9, a Kahr CW 45, a Keltec P3AT; guns that I can actually carry with me to use as needed.
I've had many Taurus' over the past 25 years, but I doubt if I'll ever have another!

[Cratchelow]

For the fellow wondering what the ooo buck would do from close range,the Federal stuff is amazing.

Was shooting it the other day and two fellows came out with a 357,as well as their deceased Dad's service revolver.I was shooting from a about 10 yards or so and had a c n shoot target mounted on inch and a half plywood.Had just gone through first 5 rounds of the federal when they walked up.They looked at the target,complimented me on my shooting(I had some nice groupings),realized it was a Judge and asked me what type of 45 colt I was using.I told them I use the heavy standard Buffalo Bore ,but the 20 holes they were looking at came from 5 quick trigger pulls and then showed them the back if the board.

To make a long story short,one of the men had been interested in a Judge,but had read some of the internet crap(throw the gun at the BG,ect).After shooting half of a box of Federal and a half dozen 45's in my gun,he stated that this was the damndest home self-defense gun he had seen and he was going to get one.

This was the third person from my local range who has decided to buy one after shooting mine.I have the magnum edition and with the 2 1/2 Fedferal 000 there is just no recoil.The heavy 45 load is a little more,but extremely managable.

I shot several rounds of +P through a friend's Ruger LCR the other day and my hand hurt for an hour.

I load my Judge with two rounds of 000 and three 45 200 grain BB JHP at 1100 fps, and sleep pretty well.Of course I tend to practice with it a lot and might have to come out of retirement(retired teacher) to afford the ammo.

[charley69]

Quote:       Originally Posted by carttaurus

I can't help but wonder what the effects would have been had the guy in the Box of Truth demo had shot the pellets/000 buck with the denim shirt in front of the two milk jugs. Althought he may have displayed the failure of 000 buck to penetrate demin shirt after going through 2 milk jugs, real life would be the scenario of 000 going through shirt first. A shot in the face, neck/throat, groin knees and shins with pellets would have a very negative effect on someone. It appears to be about shooting soft tissue areas with shotshells concering the Judge than vital areas. King Kong would be in a lot of trouble shot in the throat with pellets trying to breath air mixed with blood.

Hi, I am new here,
I joined to get some good info and share my thoughts about the judge.

I agree with the post above in quotes.
While some experts say the judge is not a good self defense gun based on data from the range and balistic gel.

I disagree!
in a panic self defense scenario, this owner/gun has much better chance surviving an attack.
My reasoning:
1: Hitting a moving target with a 9mm 38 or alike (single bullet ) in a panic situation is slim to none unless you use laser to aim and can remain calm to execute a perfect shot.
2: most attacks are in a remote area so hitting others with bird shot is unlikely.
3:bird shoot may not stop an attacker , but a chance to hit a soft tissue such as groin area or face is very likely.
once the attacker is in pain or can not see(eyes bleeding) a well placed .45 long can put an end to the attack.

Shooting/testing at a range firing through milk jugs, or balistic gel has nothing in common with real life self defense scenarios.

[woodyubet]

Quote:       Originally Posted by charley69

Hi, I am new here, I joined to get some good info and share my thoughts about the judge. I agree with the post above in quotes. While some experts say the judge is not a good self defense gun based on data from the range and balistic gel. I disagree! in a panic self defense scenario, this owner/gun has much better chance surviving an attack. My reasoning: 1: Hitting a moving target with a 9mm 38 or alike (single bullet ) in a panic situation is slim to none unless you use laser to aim and can remain calm to execute a perfect shot. 2: most attacks are in a remote area so hitting others with bird shot is unlikely. 3:bird shoot may not stop an attacker , but a chance to hit a soft tissue such as groin area or face is very likely. once the attacker is in pain or can not see(eyes bleeding) a well placed .45 long can put an end to the attack. Shooting/testing at a range firing through milk jugs, or balistic gel has nothing in common with real life self defense scenarios.

Well said Charley......if there is anyone out there that doesn't think a Judge will do the job....just stand in front of one.



That is a 3" magnum, 3" barrel, Judge. It has fired all of the rounds seen in the pic plus 3" buckshot and slugs. There have been no issues what so ever with this gun at all. I bought this one because of a few encounters with snakes here in north Ms. I'm retired and spend most of my time stomping around in the woods. The Judge is a most welcome companion on my daily adventures.

[Elder Winds]

Happy with the Judge. Kinda lucked out. Went down to order one up here in Sandpoint ID after my son in CA was bitching he couldn't have one. All set to order the Stainless model. Kid behind the counter promptly sold me this Titanium model. Yep it cost more but the weight difference was nice. I have my CWP and many things to carry but the Judge is the one. Three rounds of birdshot followed if necessary by two rounds of Garnet (Hayden ID.) 250gr. JHP should do it. I'm old hence the title Elder ( old ) Winds ( pharts ). The Judge in my model is lighter by several ounces than my Beretta 90 TWO. Less rounds butt what the heck. I'm looking for some different grips though. I have large hands and the stock Taurus grips put a severe bite on my finger finger. Trigger guard gets me.
ANY IDEAS ?

[woodyubet]

Actually, I'm pretty pleased with the grips on the Judge EW. I've heard of folks with large hands haveing that same problem. I've also heard some have modified their trigger technique by holding the trigger back till they got back on target then releasing the trigger.

Here are a couple of good sites for Judge owners :
Taurus-Judge.com: Taurus Judge Grips
Taurus Pistol Grips