New Taurus " JUDGE "

SgtKnuckles · 04-27-2009, 09:26 AM

KW Gary M,...
~If your shooting BG's at more than 25' in a Self Defense situation, the Judge is going to consider you Offensive when the case goes to court...
~Think about getting Hit by 3 or 5 (.360) Buck Balls simotainiously... Aim center mass, and all ball will hit the BG... Note the FPS...(that's Bad News for the BG)
~ http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img353/1920/judge1fr9.jpg
Product Symbol: XB41000
Gauge: 410
Shell Length: 2-1/2
Velocity (in.): 1300
Powder Dram Equiv: N/A
Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm
# of Balls: 3
~
Product Symbol: XB413
Gauge: 410
Shell Length: 3
Velocity (in.): 1135
Powder Dram Equiv: N/A
Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm
# of Balls: 5
For superior Buckshot performance, you can't beat the stopping power of Winchester Buckshot loads.

KW Gary M · 04-27-2009, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SgtKnuckles

KW Gary M,...
~If your shooting BG's at more than 25' in a Self Defense situation, the Judge is going to consider you Offensive when the case goes to court...
~Think about getting Hit by 3 or 5 (.360) Buck Balls simotainiously... Aim center mass, and all ball will hit the BG... Note the FPS...(that's Bad News for the BG)
~ http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img353/1920/judge1fr9.jpg
Product Symbol: XB41000
Gauge: 410
Shell Length: 2-1/2
Velocity (in.): 1300
Powder Dram Equiv: N/A
Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm
# of Balls: 3
~
Product Symbol: XB413
Gauge: 410
Shell Length: 3
Velocity (in.): 1135
Powder Dram Equiv: N/A
Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm
# of Balls: 5
For superior Buckshot performance, you can't beat the stopping power of Winchester Buckshot loads.

I wouldn't want more that 25 feet. I was thinking more like 15 feet or less. Doesn't loose any knock down power from say, 10 to 15 feet?

SgtKnuckles · 04-27-2009, 01:15 PM

"Judge's Are Meat Grinder's Plain and Simple...
NOTE: The 2 1/2" Judge ~ You can empty the Gun in just under Two Seconds (1 1/2) That would put 15 000 Buck on target will mess up a BG's day...!!! Point and Shoot Babe~Point and Shoot Babe... Theres no place for a BG to hide from an instant Barrage like that...!!!
3" MAG, puts 25 000 Buck Balls on BG in less than 2 second... Your putting Balls on target, faster than a Semi-Auto by far... We must not forget the .45 Colt for a Combo Load-up, just to have a little Fun With The BG...<:-))
~Here is some Target Groupings for a Idea of what to Expect at Defense Ranges~
http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-UltraLiteJudge.htm

SKS NOOB · 04-27-2009, 01:36 PM

YouTube - Taurus Judge used by Mark Wahlberg in...

GO to the 3:02 mark.

Netwitt · 05-05-2009, 08:55 AM

Hello all,

May I ask some opinions? There is a Taurus Judge (6.5" barrel, stainless) at the local gunshop. Supposedly someone bought it, took it home and shot it, decided he wanted something to conceal, brought it back and traded it. The price is $420. Does this seem like a fair price? I'm not too 'savvy' on pricing, especially on this piece.

Thanks much.
netwitt

JMcDonald · 05-05-2009, 11:56 PM

From what I've read, velocities of the 2.5" Winchester buckshot loads are near 900fps, making it about like getting hit by three .380acp FMJ rounds. Definately still plenty lethal (especially compared to your average handgun). The 3" load with five pellets seemed to do about 650fps, which is still like getting shot by five mildly expanding .32acps so, of course, it is no slouch either. I'd imagine penetration wouldn't be an issue with either load.

longbow · 05-07-2009, 12:29 PM

my question on the judge is other than the the Taurus key lock is there any other safety. I never owned a revolver before and I thought there might be another safety

blat · 05-07-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longbow

my question on the judge is other than the the Taurus key lock is there any other safety. I never owned a revolver before and I thought there might be another safety

They, like most revolvers, have a tranfer bar; the hammer never touches the firing pin. When the trigger is pulled, this bar rises up to transfer the hammer blow to the firing pin, then releasing the trigger allows the bar to drop back out of contact with the firing pin. Generally, revolvers do not have, or need, a manual safety.

blat · 05-07-2009, 10:35 PM

I got a grip for my Judge that is smaller and thinner than the "ribber; it's the grip the put on their 617 357. It's neoprene, with finger grooves and a "pebbled" texture. The gun feels good with them; recoil is more pronounced, but they will help this gun be easier to conceal.

SgtKnuckles · 05-08-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blat

They, like most revolvers, have a tranfer bar; the hammer never touches the firing pin. When the trigger is pulled, this bar rises up to transfer the hammer blow to the firing pin, then releasing the trigger allows the bar to drop back out of contact with the firing pin. Generally, revolvers do not have, or need, a manual safety.

Right On blat....<:-))

Jonthemac10 · 05-12-2009, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carttaurus

My biggest question is what are the other manufacturers doing as far as possi-
bly creating a Judge. Just can't see them not doing anything while Taurus is
making all this money. I would just bet their strategy is just to see how the
Judge does and try to improve on any weaknesses.

The only other company that is making a .410/.45LC combo is Magnum research, but their gun is extremely expensive, BUT the barrel is 7.5'' long instead of what Taurus offers, and handles 2.5'' and 3'' shells.

Magnum Research

Jonthemac10 · 05-12-2009, 12:43 AM

Here is another that I had to dig around for... a Thunder 5. The only page I found a picture of was here:

Thunder 5

But other than that it seems that Thunder 5 has gone under and isn't in production anymore.

hburner · 06-07-2009, 11:09 AM

Hello all, I just joined the forum and just purchased my UL SS 2.5 chamber 3in barrel 2 weeks ago and I love it.

Just wandering, I see all these descriptions about the 2.5 chamber and the 3 inch chamber both with the 3 in barrel and yet they all say the overall length is still 9.5 in.

Anybody notice this also, and is it true, if so, how? hb.

xixxt · 11-01-2009, 08:01 AM

Hello Thread!

After just firing off a couple of boxes of 2 1/2 in Federal Hand Ammo I must say I am impressed! Standard 2 1/2 shells spread out of my Public Defender about 12 to 18 inches at 8 yards. I was seriously thinking about NOT using them because I was worried about bystanders. But with the Federal Ammo I got consistent groups around the size of baseball at 8 yards! WOW!

The shot in the Federal ammo is brass plated and slightly smaller. Smaller due to a sleeve that holds the shot. It is my belief that due to the smaller size of the shot AND that it is contained in this sleeve that it makes less contact with the rifling in the bore producing tighter groups.

~x~

littleman · 11-04-2009, 09:45 PM

They are "neat" guns( if that phrase is still in use); but I had two of them, and both gave problems. Months of attempts to contact Taurus were totally fruitless. So, I got rid of them both and bought things such as a Kahr P 9, a Kahr CW 45, a Keltec P3AT; guns that I can actually carry with me to use as needed.
I've had many Taurus' over the past 25 years, but I doubt if I'll ever have another!

04-27-2009, 09:26 AM	#141
SgtKnuckles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 450 Images: 2	KW Gary M,... ~If your shooting BG's at more than 25' in a Self Defense situation, the Judge is going to consider you Offensive when the case goes to court... ~Think about getting Hit by 3 or 5 (.360) Buck Balls simotainiously... Aim center mass, and all ball will hit the BG... Note the FPS...(that's Bad News for the BG) ~ http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img353/1920/judge1fr9.jpg Product Symbol: XB41000 Gauge: 410 Shell Length: 2-1/2 Velocity (in.): 1300 Powder Dram Equiv: N/A Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm # of Balls: 3 ~ Product Symbol: XB413 Gauge: 410 Shell Length: 3 Velocity (in.): 1135 Powder Dram Equiv: N/A Shot Size: 000 (.360) think 9mm # of Balls: 5 For superior Buckshot performance, you can't beat the stopping power of Winchester Buckshot loads. Last edited by SgtKnuckles; 04-27-2009 at 09:32 AM.

04-27-2009, 01:15 PM	#143
SgtKnuckles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 450 Images: 2	"Judge's Are Meat Grinder's Plain and Simple... NOTE: The 2 1/2" Judge ~ You can empty the Gun in just under Two Seconds (1 1/2) That would put 15 000 Buck on target will mess up a BG's day...!!! Point and Shoot Babe~Point and Shoot Babe... Theres no place for a BG to hide from an instant Barrage like that...!!! 3" MAG, puts 25 000 Buck Balls on BG in less than 2 second... Your putting Balls on target, faster than a Semi-Auto by far... We must not forget the .45 Colt for a Combo Load-up, just to have a little Fun With The BG...<:-)) ~Here is some Target Groupings for a Idea of what to Expect at Defense Ranges~ http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-UltraLiteJudge.htm Last edited by SgtKnuckles; 04-27-2009 at 01:45 PM.

05-05-2009, 08:55 AM	#145
Netwitt Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 3	Taurus price Hello all, May I ask some opinions? There is a Taurus Judge (6.5" barrel, stainless) at the local gunshop. Supposedly someone bought it, took it home and shot it, decided he wanted something to conceal, brought it back and traded it. The price is $420. Does this seem like a fair price? I'm not too 'savvy' on pricing, especially on this piece. Thanks much. netwitt

05-07-2009, 10:35 PM	#149
blat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Western NC Posts: 385	I got a grip for my Judge that is smaller and thinner than the "ribber; it's the grip the put on their 617 357. It's neoprene, with finger grooves and a "pebbled" texture. The gun feels good with them; recoil is more pronounced, but they will help this gun be easier to conceal. __________________ I feel more like I do now than I did awhile ago.

05-12-2009, 12:43 AM	#152
Jonthemac10 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 46	Here is another that I had to dig around for... a Thunder 5. The only page I found a picture of was here: Thunder 5 But other than that it seems that Thunder 5 has gone under and isn't in production anymore. __________________ "Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones do."

05-05-2009, 11:56 PM	#146
JMcDonald Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,307	From what I've read, velocities of the 2.5" Winchester buckshot loads are near 900fps, making it about like getting hit by three .380acp FMJ rounds. Definately still plenty lethal (especially compared to your average handgun). The 3" load with five pellets seemed to do about 650fps, which is still like getting shot by five mildly expanding .32acps so, of course, it is no slouch either. I'd imagine penetration wouldn't be an issue with either load.

05-07-2009, 12:29 PM	#147
longbow Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6	my question on the judge is other than the the Taurus key lock is there any other safety. I never owned a revolver before and I thought there might be another safety

06-07-2009, 11:09 AM	#153
hburner Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2	Judge length Hello all, I just joined the forum and just purchased my UL SS 2.5 chamber 3in barrel 2 weeks ago and I love it. Just wandering, I see all these descriptions about the 2.5 chamber and the 3 inch chamber both with the 3 in barrel and yet they all say the overall length is still 9.5 in. Anybody notice this also, and is it true, if so, how? hb.

11-01-2009, 08:01 AM	#154
xixxt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 4	Federal Handgun Ammo Hello Thread! After just firing off a couple of boxes of 2 1/2 in Federal Hand Ammo I must say I am impressed! Standard 2 1/2 shells spread out of my Public Defender about 12 to 18 inches at 8 yards. I was seriously thinking about NOT using them because I was worried about bystanders. But with the Federal Ammo I got consistent groups around the size of baseball at 8 yards! WOW! The shot in the Federal ammo is brass plated and slightly smaller. Smaller due to a sleeve that holds the shot. It is my belief that due to the smaller size of the shot AND that it is contained in this sleeve that it makes less contact with the rifling in the bore producing tighter groups. ~x~

11-04-2009, 09:45 PM	#155
littleman Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 128	They are "neat" guns( if that phrase is still in use); but I had two of them, and both gave problems. Months of attempts to contact Taurus were totally fruitless. So, I got rid of them both and bought things such as a Kahr P 9, a Kahr CW 45, a Keltec P3AT; guns that I can actually carry with me to use as needed. I've had many Taurus' over the past 25 years, but I doubt if I'll ever have another! __________________ Beware the man with one gun; He likely knows how to use it!