Range report on my probelematic pt940

Mr.S · 03-16-2008, 06:15 PM

Finally took my gun to the range to see if my failures to eject continued. (I am the one who's gun kept jamming every 3rd round at the carry class).
Here are the latest results:

Ammos used:
Winchester .40 S&W (165 gr) from wal-mart.
American eagle .40 S&W (165 gr) from coal creek armory.

Total rounds for winchester: 24- American Eagle: 42
Winchester: 2 FTE & 1 missfire- Amer.Eagle: 1 FTE & 1 missfire

MrsS also shot my 940-
Total rounds for winchester: 10- American Eagle: 8
winchester: 1 FTE & 0 missfire- Amer. Eagle: 0 FTE & 0 missfire

Obviously, the brand of ammo may be part of the problem. A question: should I try a higher grain ammo or is that irrelevant? I am trying to determine when it may be time to send off to Taurus. This is my first, and only, handgun. How would I ship it to Taurus, if the problem persists?

samuel · 03-16-2008, 06:26 PM

You can call Taurus,# 800-327-3776 0r 305-624-1115. You can ship UPS. sam.

Taurus Fan · 03-17-2008, 06:52 AM

I have the 911, same gun in 9mm, it shot flawlessly out of the box with a couple types of factory ammo and some very old handloads I had left over, several hundred rounds, no malfunctions, no break-in required. This is how they are supposed to work, go-bang all the time right out of the box and never jam with any bullet weight or shape. Two other Taurus autoloaders I've owned behaved the same. Your gun needs to be returned to the factory ASAP, bad news does not improve with age.

jpwilly · 03-30-2008, 11:23 PM

Call and send it back. The pistol should run or something wrong with the way you shoot it. As long as your not "limp wristing" an autoloader...it should work.

Taurus Fan · 03-31-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jpwilly

Call and send it back. The pistol should run or something wrong with the way you shoot it. As long as your not "limp wristing" an autoloader...it should work.

They should work no matter how you hold them, "limp wristing" is a freakish phenomenon and more of an excuse for bad ammo/pistol/magazine problems. I've seen people try to make an auto jam by holding it sideways between thumb and forefinger, they worked just fine.

LarryO1970 · 03-31-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Taurus Fan

They should work no matter how you hold them, "limp wristing" is a freakish phenomenon and more of an excuse for bad ammo/pistol/magazine problems. I've seen people try to make an auto jam by holding it sideways between thumb and forefinger, they worked just fine.

I disagree... limp wristing an autoloader will lead to stove-pipe jams... if you are limp wristing the gun... magazines will work just fine... but the slide does not get the velocity it needs to cycle correctly.

Failures to fire could be that the battery(slide) is not engaged due to limp wristing" or these is a problem with the ammo... but that is doubtful. Very possible that the slide did not engage correctly.

Part of the problem could very well be an ammo/gum marriage... every gun is "picky" with ammo... but not to that point.

Either way... try 180 grain .40's and hold it tight. My guess... you will see a remarkable change.

samuel · 03-31-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Taurus Fan

They should work no matter how you hold them, "limp wristing" is a freakish phenomenon and more of an excuse for bad ammo/pistol/magazine problems. I've seen people try to make an auto jam by holding it sideways between thumb and forefinger, they worked just fine.

I am always glad to hear from someone that knows more than all of the professional instructors and handgun competitors.Without your great knowledge and vast experience we would all just go on believing the pro,s and never realise they dont know shi*, and you know all that is worth knowing.The confusing part,time and again,when someone had stovepipe problems,when shown proper hold the problem went away.Now I find what I saw,I really didnt see.Thank you so much for setting everyone straight.The pro,s wouldn't do it.They just keep telling about 'weak wrist". sam.

lefty o · 03-31-2008, 01:01 PM

poor technique will jam an auto right now. the shooter is part of the operating system in a non gas operated semi auto.

Taurus Fan · 03-31-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by samuel

I am always glad to hear from someone that knows more than all of the professional instructors and handgun competitors.Without your great knowledge and vast experience we would all just go on believing the pro,s and never realise they dont know shi*, and you know all that is worth knowing.The confusing part,time and again,when someone had stovepipe problems,when shown proper hold the problem went away.Now I find what I saw,I really didnt see.Thank you so much for setting everyone straight.The pro,s wouldn't do it.They just keep telling about 'weak wrist". sam.

meh......I saw what I saw. What have you seen? I've heard that autos with heavier than normal after-market recoil springs are prone to the problem, but for an out of the box gun, it's just an excuse for a crummy pistol. That's my opinion and experience, no need to become abusive. This is the second thread you've made me lose interest in, sam, by being abrasive and condescending. Try not to make a habit of it.

Edit: Well I'll be darned, apparently some guns are very touchy to "limp-wristing". Here's a video of a variety of guns being shot with a dangerously weak hold. The Glock wouldn't shoot at all, the others worked fine.

You Tube

twisterx44 · 04-01-2008, 12:26 AM

Sam, relax, no need to go over the top like that, this IS "
The friendliest gun forum on the internet," right?

Can't we all just get along?

MrsS · 04-01-2008, 07:20 PM

(Either way... try 180 grain .40's and hold it tight. My guess... you will see a remarkable change.[/quote])

My husband told me that when he first bought the gun, the seller gave him some 180 grain and he did not have a problem...only thing was, he didn't get alot of that ammo; the ammo came from a gun show and was sold by "Georgia Arms".

Taurus Fan · 04-01-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsS

My husband told me that when he first bought the gun, the seller gave him some 180 grain and he did not have a problem...only thing was, he didn't get alot of that ammo; the ammo came from a gun show and was sold by "Georgia Arms".

That's good to hear, but sending it to Taurus was wise. Pistols are not supposed to be so finicky about ammo, and certainly not so sensitive to a weak hold. If automatics required a perfect, vice-like grip to function without jamming consistantly, we'd all be using revolvers. A gun that will malfunction if you don't hold your mouth just right is a poor choice for a defensive weapon. I don't believe the problems you experienced were due to "limp-wristing". Keep us posted on how things turn out.

03-16-2008, 06:15 PM	#1
Mr.S Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 45	Range report on my probelematic pt940 Finally took my gun to the range to see if my failures to eject continued. (I am the one who's gun kept jamming every 3rd round at the carry class). Here are the latest results: Ammos used: Winchester .40 S&W (165 gr) from wal-mart. American eagle .40 S&W (165 gr) from coal creek armory. Total rounds for winchester: 24- American Eagle: 42 Winchester: 2 FTE & 1 missfire- Amer.Eagle: 1 FTE & 1 missfire MrsS also shot my 940- Total rounds for winchester: 10- American Eagle: 8 winchester: 1 FTE & 0 missfire- Amer. Eagle: 0 FTE & 0 missfire Obviously, the brand of ammo may be part of the problem. A question: should I try a higher grain ammo or is that irrelevant? I am trying to determine when it may be time to send off to Taurus. This is my first, and only, handgun. How would I ship it to Taurus, if the problem persists? Last edited by Mr.S; 03-16-2008 at 06:17 PM. Reason: to place proper punctuations

03-17-2008, 06:52 AM	#3
Taurus Fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cobra Command Headquarters Posts: 903	I have the 911, same gun in 9mm, it shot flawlessly out of the box with a couple types of factory ammo and some very old handloads I had left over, several hundred rounds, no malfunctions, no break-in required. This is how they are supposed to work, go-bang all the time right out of the box and never jam with any bullet weight or shape. Two other Taurus autoloaders I've owned behaved the same. Your gun needs to be returned to the factory ASAP, bad news does not improve with age. Last edited by Taurus Fan; 03-17-2008 at 07:50 AM.

04-01-2008, 07:20 PM	#11
MrsS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 16th state. Posts: 1,810	(Either way... try 180 grain .40's and hold it tight. My guess... you will see a remarkable change.[/quote]) My husband told me that when he first bought the gun, the seller gave him some 180 grain and he did not have a problem...only thing was, he didn't get alot of that ammo; the ammo came from a gun show and was sold by "Georgia Arms". __________________ "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the LORD." Luke 2:11

03-16-2008, 06:26 PM	#2
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,237	You can call Taurus,# 800-327-3776 0r 305-624-1115. You can ship UPS. sam.

03-30-2008, 11:23 PM	#4
jpwilly Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 84	Call and send it back. The pistol should run or something wrong with the way you shoot it. As long as your not "limp wristing" an autoloader...it should work.

03-31-2008, 01:01 PM	#8
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 5,109	poor technique will jam an auto right now. the shooter is part of the operating system in a non gas operated semi auto.

04-01-2008, 12:26 AM	#10
twisterx44 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 413	Sam, relax, no need to go over the top like that, this IS " The friendliest gun forum on the internet," right? Can't we all just get along?