[billy]

i keep thinking i want one and then i start pricing them and i have a hard time reconciling that kind of money for a single shot anything.
they are cool.
i will give them that.

[highplainsman]

Pricey yes but the quality is there and the single shot has an appeal that lends itself to simpeler times that if you yield to it might lead you into primitve weaponery such as traditional black powder (no in-lines), the longbow and recurve (pre-compound) etc. I saw a video on u-tube of folks hunting wild hogs with hounds and a hunting knife! Besides the option of several different calibers on one action has an appeal. Just think a new gun at the compaitive low price of just the barrel.

[skb2706]

All modern hunting rifles are "single shots". Firing only one shot and requiring some method of reloading the chamber. If reconciling a purchase of a gun is your goal you may forever be in limbo.

[highplainsman]

willyc! Before lunch I tried a few shots resting on the barrel instead of fore end of the .223. Seemed to open the groups up a bit but only had time for a few shots and will experiment some more. Tried the .44 mag barrel with the Red Dot and they were all over the paper and I had same results with open sights. Am going to have to examine that barrel real close. I really like the 10" barrel and would like to get it shooting. Any input from anyone who has similar problems I would like your input!

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by skb2706

All modern hunting rifles are "single shots". Firing only one shot and requiring some method of reloading the chamber. If reconciling a purchase of a gun is your goal you may forever be in limbo.

you know very well what i meant.
they are nice though.
i buy 6 or 8 firearms a year.
i know how to buy guns.
p.s.
you are the Imperial size wax guy.
i remember you.
yes you are better and smarter than me.

[highplainsman]

Quote:       Originally Posted by billy

you know very well what i meant. they are nice though. i buy 6 or 8 firearms a year. i know how to buy guns. p.s. you are the Imperial size wax guy. i remember you. yes you are better and smarter than me.

Boy! If I could afford 6 to 8 guns a year I would have to lease a whole bank vault to hold them.

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by highplainsman

Boy! If I could afford 6 to 8 guns a year I would have to lease a whole bank vault to hold them.

it's one of the only perks of being a bachelor...

[Onesonek]

Quote:       Originally Posted by highplainsman

My Trading buddy can't seem to find the 45-70 barrel (probably used it for a tent stake) and the 44 mag offers enough recoil anyway. Has been wet the last week (if you can imagine that on the high plains of West Texas) and havn't been able to get out and shoot any more. Put a red Dot on the 44 mag barrel. Maybe this week! That is a nice looking set of Encores Onesonek! What all do you have there?

Lets see,,,,
The long guns,the one with the JP brake is a Shilen blanked EABCO 6mm AI 12" twist.
The one below it with black scope, is Douglas blanked OTT 9.3x74R
The last rifle barrel is another EABCO 7BRM
Handgun from the top in the case,,,
EABCO 30-40AI
OTT 218 Bee
VVCG .243AI
The bottom pics,,,
first is a PAC-NOR blanked OTT .250 AIRLN ( Ackley Imp. rimmed longneck)
Second is
Pac-Nor balnked OTT 6.5x57 AIR (rimmed)

Notpictured is a Bergara 30-06 rifle barrel I picked up in a trade.
Then too, I have OTT building me another Pac-Nor blanked .308 in a 18" for use either rifle or handgun.

I need a .243 for the Daughter in Law.

Dave

[Onesonek]

Quote:       Originally Posted by willyC

Hey Onesonek...that's a sweet looking collection of hardware !! Looks like it's worth more than my old mini-blazer ! If we all knew how to post pictures, we could all check out each others toys. How ya do dat ? And what the heck is a "senior member" ??

Download your pic's to a host site ( such as photobucket or others)
Then you just copy and paste from there.

"senior member" polite term for old fart


No, I believe it has something to do with post count????
not sure
Dave

PS Thanks!

[highplainsman]

Thanks onesonek! That is quite an unusual (and expensive) collection.

[highplainsman]

Billy! Yeah I guess! My other half has been putting up with my forays into the firearm world for forty three years now! Don't guess I would swap her for any number of firearms or anything else. Hope you guys have a Happy Halloween!

[Onesonek]

Quote:       Originally Posted by highplainsman

Thanks onesonek! That is quite an unusual (and expensive) collection.

Yes, I tend to go overboard sometimes. Outside of the .243 AI and the 6mmAI, I wouldn't really need to for the way I hunt. The factory barrels can and would be plenty accurate enough. I just like the unusual side of the norm
The 6mmAI is about 500-1000 rnds from getting replaced. I have decided that OTT will do that. I have been spoiled with his work. His patented edm chambering process, you get a match chamber to die everytime. I will switch it to the Pac-Nor blank, I have also been impressed with their's,
Actually I could use 2 barrels on fast twist and then the 12" in the 6mmAI.

Dave

[willyC]

finally cleaned up myshop and found my loading bench. started to clean some brass...not sure what i will do first. after quite a layoff (years) from shooting, i ran across mike bellm's site (holy cow!!) and after reading and re-reading everything he has written, decided he was talking directly to me, discribing in detail some of the issues i have encountered with my collection. i will probably start with my .223 which shoots well up to 75 yards with light bullets, but then just goes all to hell. seemingly a common occurance due to the methods T/C uses chambering these things. may start with a new target crown and having him ream it to create a true throat. looks like mine is in line with the bore but the neck ending abruptly at the rifling. he claims many aren't even in line wth the bore !! my 7x30 waters is super as is my .445 supermag...won't fool around with them at all. my 35rem is ot too bad either but i need to get my reloads a bit more true to spec. (headspaceand oal issues) it is very accurate..killed my last deer with this one. this sort of stuff will get me thru the winter, eh? always willing to discuss contender and check this froum often. later !

[highplainsman]

Yeah! I read some of M Bellam online stuff! I'm wondering if some of the stuff he writes about the factory barrels will apply to my .44 Mag barrel!! Will have to check his site out some more as I get the time.

[willyC]

oh yes, he a lot to say about .44's. you'll see. but you might be restricted as to what your options are just due to the fact that it's a 10"er. check out his chapter on .44-356Win. the man's knowledge never ceases to impress me. that chapter is on the left side of "online store" page. my 14" bull .445SM(with add-on foxridge brake) will put 3 in one hole at 50yds (4x scope). that tells me to probably leave it alone. not sure what it will print at greater yardages...it's quite a blaster and you tend not to practice with it a whole bunch. in this case i'm using custom brass i got 15 or 20 yrs. ago from eabco made from 30/40 krag and nickel plated (very husky) so i'm not dealing with premature brass failure. the damn things were about a buck apiece but have only lost one that i mangled in the press learning how to load straightwall pistol stuff. i don't think it is even still an item that they sell. keep in touch. willy

[Onesonek]

Quote:       Originally Posted by highplainsman

Yeah! I read some of M Bellam online stuff! I'm wondering if some of the stuff he writes about the factory barrels will apply to my .44 Mag barrel!! Will have to check his site out some more as I get the time.

Are you haveing problems? If you mentioned in this thread, I missed it.

Dave

[highplainsman]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Onesonek

Are you haveing problems? If you mentioned in this thread, I missed it. Dave

Yeah! The 10" .44 Mag barrel scatters shots all over the paper. Have only tried one brand of ammo at this point and no handloads. I really like the ten inch barrel and am trying to figure the problem.

[tcwildcat7mm]

I have the 44mag with no probs. And I am only using factory hornady 245gr loads. matter of fact, all 4 barrels I have don't give me probs at all. How far you shootin the paper? I don't shoot past 100yrds most of the time so maybe that has somethin to do with it? maybe maybe not I guess. I dont have anywhere to shoot further thatn that. North Carolina thickbrush ya know!

[highplainsman]

I'm talking 25 Yds and 8 to 10 " groups with both open sights and the Reds Dot. Ammo is 240 grain Winchester. I have owned and shot .44 mag revolvers since the 1960s and never had this kind of problem. Put the Red Dot on .22 mag barrel and no problem so it is definitly not the sight. Am open to suggestions!!

[willyC]

Ho Texas, Wussup ? Sounds like you got yourself a 10" tent-peg. There is SOOO much good info about .44's on the Bellm site,once you read it all you should be able to see what's wrong. T/C did a crappy job makin' 'em !! If you had a 14', he could rechamber it for something more usable like .445supermag or his .44-358Win. (a Bellm creation)or even .444Marlin altho it's just a tad too big to get a complete burn of the powder. You can always swap it off for another one but remember, the 10" length has limitations in .44cal. If mine was ailing I would send it to him pronto but my 14" .445SM is very accurate and since I had a muzzle brake installed is shootable as well. Granted, it wears a 4x leopold but it will put 3 shots in one hole at 50yrds. With 265gr jacketed flatpoints it's good for anything including critters that will eat you! 245gr XTP's will split 8" structural steel channel like a can-opener. I think I'd box'er up, carry it into the next local gun sho and do a swap. That's how I got rid of mine. If you should end up with a .445, I assure you that you won't like it without a brake on it. By the way, there are some 12" Factory Hunter models out there with brakes on 'em already.You might get a good deal on one. Good luck, pal. willyC