Bobcat Question

deergrower · 06-10-2004, 06:27 PM

I have never taken a bobcat before and on this new deer lease I joined I have seen like five of them and was wondering how to get them to come to me so can anyone in here help me out here?

ScottD · 06-10-2004, 06:35 PM

Pick up a Burnham Brothers Squealing Rabbit call. It fits nicely in your mouth without the use of your hands. They'll come a running. Better be ready.

Jay A. · 06-10-2004, 06:54 PM

with the price of cats, and the regulations involved, you'll probably enjoy trapping them more. The hide is thin and valuable. This winter they were bringing $400. every hole must be sewn. Do not cut the belly, tube the hide. Only wash if very dirty. When you trap live, they usually just strangle the cat to avoid damaging the fur.

Oxford · 06-10-2004, 07:28 PM

What about just gasing them injecting them with chemicals? That eliminates the possibility of getting scratched or bit.

ScottD · 06-10-2004, 07:35 PM

I prefer the highly accurate and high velocity copper/lead projectal placed were it will turn out the lights of the !!!!! cat.

Jay A. · 06-10-2004, 10:08 PM

Hey Ox,
when I said "strangle" I didn't mean with your bare hands. You use a loop on the end of a pole and insert it into the live trap. Skulls, claws and fur are all valuable. Don't shoot in the head, unless you like throwing away money. In addition skulls must be turned in to F & W for ID. In MT cats require a trappers permit in addition to other permits.
www.midrivers.com/~jandmfur

jarcp · 06-12-2004, 05:27 AM

I have to say, I feel that the choke type traps should be gotten rid of. Hunting? great! Trap? Great! Provided animals are taken in a humane way. Shoot them, and get it over with. There is no reason to make an animal suffer for no reason, To me it fits in the same catagory of killing a deer and letting the corpse rot where it fell. Just my two cents.

Jay A. · 06-12-2004, 12:06 PM

I apparently am not explaining myself properly. The cat does not suffer at all. If you trap the cat in a live trap (wire box), you insert a pole with a noose on the end. Get it around the cats neck and choke. There's nothing wrong with shooting except that you put holes in $100 dollar bills (if you get my meaning). Actually the cat suffers less in some cases because a lot of people can't hit the right spot the first time with their pistol. I have tried killing coons in a cage and occasionally the bullet ricochets off the wire, damaging the hide and causing the animal to suffer even more.

jarcp · 06-13-2004, 08:25 AM

Jay,

AH!! Okay, here I am envisioning a trap with a garrote type latch. Cat comes in, trips a wire that's hanging neck level and gets choked. You've righted youself with me!

pmspinnerb8 · 06-15-2004, 12:45 PM

You can use an electronic call with either a bleating rabbit, yellow-bellied woodpecker call, or kittens mewing. I personally like mouth calls better. Burnham Bros make one called the Black Magic that works well for me. I've even used duck calls and screamed through them before. You can't really mess up when calling, it isn't as structured as calling up ducks. It is more based on intensity. Bobcats are pretty wary, so it usually takes a while to call them in. The shortest amount of time for me to call one in to shooting distance was 20minutes and I have called up as long as an hour. Coyotes will come in pretty quick to calls, so if you are after a bobcat you'll have to pass them up. One other thing too, if you are going to have a full body mount done, do not gut it, it messes up the hide and you will be stuck with a head mount. Just throw it in an ice chest and keep the body cool until you can get it to a taxidermist. Good luck, it is a lot of fun.

sniper762 · 10-23-2004, 06:42 PM

Just curious! If you have seen five, why do you need to "bring them too you": When I am hunting, usually if I can see it I can hit it. Im talking bobcat at 300 yards or less, "dead cat"

G Hollingsworth · 10-24-2004, 09:37 AM

I can't see the point of killing just for the sake of killing. I don't shoot deer anymore, They tast like liver or pinecones. Now Moose, now thats a horse of a different color. Bobcats are few and far between and unless you make your living traping they should be left alone. They are beautifull animals and I don't need to prove anything. Some hunters spend a lifetime in the woods and never see one. My opinion

Troy · 10-24-2004, 08:35 PM

agreed, as long as the meat and hide are not wasted, then happy trails. but for just the sake of killing is criminal.

06-10-2004, 06:27 PM	#1
deergrower Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 16	Bobcat Question I have never taken a bobcat before and on this new deer lease I joined I have seen like five of them and was wondering how to get them to come to me so can anyone in here help me out here? __________________ The more kids we can get into woods and on the creeks the more kids we can keep off crack and out of the streets!!!!!!!!!

06-10-2004, 06:35 PM	#2
ScottD Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Evanston, IL Posts: 1,020	Pick up a Burnham Brothers Squealing Rabbit call. It fits nicely in your mouth without the use of your hands. They'll come a running. Better be ready. __________________ "Some people can not live without wilderness"-Aldo Leopold

06-10-2004, 07:28 PM	#4
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,110 Blog Entries: 4	What about just gasing them injecting them with chemicals? That eliminates the possibility of getting scratched or bit. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right". Last edited by Oxford; 06-10-2004 at 07:34 PM.

06-10-2004, 07:35 PM	#5
ScottD Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Evanston, IL Posts: 1,020	I prefer the highly accurate and high velocity copper/lead projectal placed were it will turn out the lights of the !!!!! cat. __________________ "Some people can not live without wilderness"-Aldo Leopold

06-12-2004, 05:27 AM	#7
jarcp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 253	I have to say, I feel that the choke type traps should be gotten rid of. Hunting? great! Trap? Great! Provided animals are taken in a humane way. Shoot them, and get it over with. There is no reason to make an animal suffer for no reason, To me it fits in the same catagory of killing a deer and letting the corpse rot where it fell. Just my two cents. __________________ Reed's Ammunition & Research 1209 SW 129th St. Oklahoma City, OK 73170 www.reedsammo.com info@reedsammo.com

06-10-2004, 06:54 PM	#3
Jay A. Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montana Posts: 116	with the price of cats, and the regulations involved, you'll probably enjoy trapping them more. The hide is thin and valuable. This winter they were bringing $400. every hole must be sewn. Do not cut the belly, tube the hide. Only wash if very dirty. When you trap live, they usually just strangle the cat to avoid damaging the fur.

06-10-2004, 10:08 PM	#6
Jay A. Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montana Posts: 116	Hey Ox, when I said "strangle" I didn't mean with your bare hands. You use a loop on the end of a pole and insert it into the live trap. Skulls, claws and fur are all valuable. Don't shoot in the head, unless you like throwing away money. In addition skulls must be turned in to F & W for ID. In MT cats require a trappers permit in addition to other permits. www.midrivers.com/~jandmfur

06-12-2004, 12:06 PM	#8
Jay A. Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montana Posts: 116	choke I apparently am not explaining myself properly. The cat does not suffer at all. If you trap the cat in a live trap (wire box), you insert a pole with a noose on the end. Get it around the cats neck and choke. There's nothing wrong with shooting except that you put holes in $100 dollar bills (if you get my meaning). Actually the cat suffers less in some cases because a lot of people can't hit the right spot the first time with their pistol. I have tried killing coons in a cage and occasionally the bullet ricochets off the wire, damaging the hide and causing the animal to suffer even more.

06-13-2004, 08:25 AM	#9
jarcp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 253	Jay, AH!! Okay, here I am envisioning a trap with a garrote type latch. Cat comes in, trips a wire that's hanging neck level and gets choked. You've righted youself with me! __________________ Reed's Ammunition & Research 1209 SW 129th St. Oklahoma City, OK 73170 www.reedsammo.com info@reedsammo.com

06-15-2004, 12:45 PM	#10
pmspinnerb8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lonestar State Posts: 286	You can use an electronic call with either a bleating rabbit, yellow-bellied woodpecker call, or kittens mewing. I personally like mouth calls better. Burnham Bros make one called the Black Magic that works well for me. I've even used duck calls and screamed through them before. You can't really mess up when calling, it isn't as structured as calling up ducks. It is more based on intensity. Bobcats are pretty wary, so it usually takes a while to call them in. The shortest amount of time for me to call one in to shooting distance was 20minutes and I have called up as long as an hour. Coyotes will come in pretty quick to calls, so if you are after a bobcat you'll have to pass them up. One other thing too, if you are going to have a full body mount done, do not gut it, it messes up the hide and you will be stuck with a head mount. Just throw it in an ice chest and keep the body cool until you can get it to a taxidermist. Good luck, it is a lot of fun. __________________ Two in the chest and one in the head and even the Green Giant falls down dead.

10-23-2004, 06:42 PM	#11
sniper762 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 176	Just curious! If you have seen five, why do you need to "bring them too you": When I am hunting, usually if I can see it I can hit it. Im talking bobcat at 300 yards or less, "dead cat"

10-24-2004, 09:37 AM	#12
G Hollingsworth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 227	I can't see the point of killing just for the sake of killing. I don't shoot deer anymore, They tast like liver or pinecones. Now Moose, now thats a horse of a different color. Bobcats are few and far between and unless you make your living traping they should be left alone. They are beautifull animals and I don't need to prove anything. Some hunters spend a lifetime in the woods and never see one. My opinion

10-24-2004, 08:35 PM	#13
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,505 Images: 3	agreed, as long as the meat and hide are not wasted, then happy trails. but for just the sake of killing is criminal.