Cheap .223 Rifle

BattleRifleG3 · 08-12-2005, 11:28 PM

Yawn, my Savage is basically the same thing, made right before the accutrigger came out. It's tough but I've never had cause to complain.

Nice font there on the creepy, though.

auspighunter · 08-13-2005, 08:35 AM

my vanguard was cheap but its great i find it light and very comfortable
i can hold i fairly steady i got it yesterday 22-250 and leupolld vx-4-12x40
good buy
and they are pretty much the same rifle as a howa lightning rifle

Big Dog · 08-13-2005, 11:24 AM

Creep can be gotten rid of. Nice rifle otherwise, as they have to cut corners somewhere to keep the price down. If you are mechanically inclined, you can save some money - buy more ammo! :right:

YugoM59/66 · 09-02-2005, 12:21 PM

sks, 100 dollars, cheap ammo, may be to big of a bullet but i doubt your stuffing stray dogs, scope and scope mount around 35 bucks

chester12 · 09-26-2005, 06:16 PM

I would 3rd the H&R, for the price I don't think that they can be beat, plus you can send them back and get different barrels for the.

myarmor · 10-23-2005, 12:50 AM

Soooooo Papa G what do you think? Haven't heard from this topic in awhile. Curious whats up...

Copper · 10-23-2005, 02:01 AM

The NEF Handy rifle gets my vote too. A buddy of mine has a .223 with a bull barrel, and it'll shoot just under MOA with 55 gr. Hornady V-Max. The only thing I don't like about it is that it has a God awful heavy trigger pull. I'd guess it at around 6 or 7 pounds, but a good gunsmith could take care of that for you though. One thing to remember is that Handi Rifles barrels are a 1 in 12" twist, which means that you won't be able to shoot heavy bullets through it.

myarmor · 10-23-2005, 12:41 PM

If Papa G opts for the H&R 223 Ultra, it will probably have a pretty good trigger from the factory. They usually have a better trigger than the normal NEF Handi rifle. Same rifles, just the Ultra is a bit nicer. And not much more either.
Hey Copper, tell your friend to try out the Winchester White Box 45gr JHP, absolute best load I have found yet for my 223 Ultra. Sub Moa every time.

chester12 · 10-25-2005, 10:24 AM

I believe that when you send the handi rifle back for other barrels that they will do a triger job on it, and drop it to a nice light pull.

myarmor · 10-25-2005, 11:06 AM

They will do the trigger job for free if your trigger pull is more than 5lbs I believe. Anything after that is like $10 I think. If you ask nice enough, you just might get it. You catch more wil honey than vinegar, right?

Copper · 10-25-2005, 06:05 PM

Thanks for the input myarmor, I'll pass it on. Just this morning, we were checking the zero's on our deer rifles out behind my barn when this fat gound hog appeared out of no where along the fence. My buddy had his Handi Rifle with him in his truck. The ground hog patiently waited for my buddy to get back with his rifle and when he did, the chuck stood up as if he was posing for a picture. My buddy squeezed off a round of 55 gr. V-Max from about 60 yards or so and there was a cloud of pink mist were the chucks head used to be. A good time was had by all.

myarmor · 10-25-2005, 06:14 PM

Those 55gr V-Max really do a number on groundhogs. They are an excellent bullet. And at 60yards the little guy hardly had a chance

E5B · 11-02-2005, 02:33 PM

I have an H&R handi rifle SB2 in a 223 with a bull barrel. Very nice shooter, very balanced.

Thrawn · 11-02-2005, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NRAJOE

It is a well known fact that the AK is one of the finest rifles in the world. The original AK plant and the office of KALASHNIKOV is in the IZHMASH factory in Izhevsk Russia. Now the IZHMASH factory brings you the sporting version of the world famous AK and they call it "SAIGA". Yes, there are some changes such as: Hunting stock / forend

Standard capacity magazines

Wide range of calibers or gauges

Sporting sighting system

But under the hood lies the famous AK action / design, built by the original AK factory. Standard features: Hammer forged chrome lined barrel

Machined steel bolt

AK side scope rail

Polymer magazine and iron sights.

Options:

Scope Mount

Checkered wood stock / forend

Polymer stock / forend

Extra magazines

If you want a dependable semi-auto rifle or shotgun then buy a Saiga and you will see why the AK action is considered one of the most dependable actions in the world.

Around $259

.223 and 7.62x39 came close to buying one today...

I think one in 5.45x39 might be quite effective on varmits. Do not underestimate the 74's accuracy.:nod:

yotehunter · 11-04-2005, 10:41 PM

Does anybody know anything about those saiga rifles. I can't find anybody who deals them around here but they say you can get them dirt cheap. I really want a .223 but I can't find one in my price range.

BattleRifleG3 · 11-05-2005, 08:37 AM

High quality, YES. High accuracy, YES. Cheap YES, dirt cheap, NO. Under $300 used is a good deal these days now that they've dried up. Should be imported again soon though.

yotehunter · 11-09-2005, 09:35 AM

So who makes the absolute cheapest .223 bolt action.

gunssb · 11-09-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Dog

Given the parameters of cheapness, shooting foxes, stray dogs and other varmints, and keeping it simple - my vote would be the H&R/NEF single-shot in .223 Rem caliber. You can find one under two bills. Add a cheap but decent scope - you're in business!

got one...can cover target @100yd with a quarter (with handloads I'm sure it can be made to shoot better). The only problem is that its single shot but a well made gun.

myarmor · 11-09-2005, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotehunter

So who makes the absolute cheapest .223 bolt action.

Stevens Model 200 is the cheapest I have seen, as for new production rifles.

yotehunter · 11-10-2005, 09:43 PM

I am a big fan of Savage Arms and like the idea of the Stevens Model 200. How much do they run in your area? The website shows them just a little over $300 witch isn't terrible.

08-12-2005, 11:28 PM	#21
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,468 Images: 13	Yawn, my Savage is basically the same thing, made right before the accutrigger came out. It's tough but I've never had cause to complain. Nice font there on the creepy, though. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-13-2005, 11:24 AM	#23
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,421	Creep can be gotten rid of. Nice rifle otherwise, as they have to cut corners somewhere to keep the price down. If you are mechanically inclined, you can save some money - buy more ammo! :right: __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

09-02-2005, 12:21 PM	#24
YugoM59/66 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 139	sks, 100 dollars, cheap ammo, may be to big of a bullet but i doubt your stuffing stray dogs, scope and scope mount around 35 bucks Last edited by YugoM59/66; 09-02-2005 at 12:25 PM.

11-05-2005, 08:37 AM	#36
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,468 Images: 13	High quality, YES. High accuracy, YES. Cheap YES, dirt cheap, NO. Under $300 used is a good deal these days now that they've dried up. Should be imported again soon though. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-10-2005, 09:43 PM	#40
yotehunter Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3	Savage Arms I am a big fan of Savage Arms and like the idea of the Stevens Model 200. How much do they run in your area? The website shows them just a little over $300 witch isn't terrible.

08-13-2005, 08:35 AM	#22
auspighunter Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 99	my vanguard was cheap but its great i find it light and very comfortable i can hold i fairly steady i got it yesterday 22-250 and leupolld vx-4-12x40 good buy and they are pretty much the same rifle as a howa lightning rifle

09-26-2005, 06:16 PM	#25
chester12 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 49	I would 3rd the H&R, for the price I don't think that they can be beat, plus you can send them back and get different barrels for the.

10-23-2005, 12:50 AM	#26
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	Soooooo Papa G what do you think? Haven't heard from this topic in awhile. Curious whats up...

10-23-2005, 02:01 AM	#27
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	The NEF Handy rifle gets my vote too. A buddy of mine has a .223 with a bull barrel, and it'll shoot just under MOA with 55 gr. Hornady V-Max. The only thing I don't like about it is that it has a God awful heavy trigger pull. I'd guess it at around 6 or 7 pounds, but a good gunsmith could take care of that for you though. One thing to remember is that Handi Rifles barrels are a 1 in 12" twist, which means that you won't be able to shoot heavy bullets through it.

10-23-2005, 12:41 PM	#28
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	If Papa G opts for the H&R 223 Ultra, it will probably have a pretty good trigger from the factory. They usually have a better trigger than the normal NEF Handi rifle. Same rifles, just the Ultra is a bit nicer. And not much more either. Hey Copper, tell your friend to try out the Winchester White Box 45gr JHP, absolute best load I have found yet for my 223 Ultra. Sub Moa every time.

10-25-2005, 10:24 AM	#29
chester12 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 49	I believe that when you send the handi rifle back for other barrels that they will do a triger job on it, and drop it to a nice light pull.

10-25-2005, 11:06 AM	#30
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	They will do the trigger job for free if your trigger pull is more than 5lbs I believe. Anything after that is like $10 I think. If you ask nice enough, you just might get it. You catch more wil honey than vinegar, right?

10-25-2005, 06:05 PM	#31
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	Thanks for the input myarmor, I'll pass it on. Just this morning, we were checking the zero's on our deer rifles out behind my barn when this fat gound hog appeared out of no where along the fence. My buddy had his Handi Rifle with him in his truck. The ground hog patiently waited for my buddy to get back with his rifle and when he did, the chuck stood up as if he was posing for a picture. My buddy squeezed off a round of 55 gr. V-Max from about 60 yards or so and there was a cloud of pink mist were the chucks head used to be. A good time was had by all.

10-25-2005, 06:14 PM	#32
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	Those 55gr V-Max really do a number on groundhogs. They are an excellent bullet. And at 60yards the little guy hardly had a chance

11-02-2005, 02:33 PM	#33
E5B Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: NC (Misplaced Texan) Posts: 22	I have an H&R handi rifle SB2 in a 223 with a bull barrel. Very nice shooter, very balanced.

11-04-2005, 10:41 PM	#35
yotehunter Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3	Does anybody know anything about those saiga rifles. I can't find anybody who deals them around here but they say you can get them dirt cheap. I really want a .223 but I can't find one in my price range.

11-09-2005, 09:35 AM	#37
yotehunter Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3	So who makes the absolute cheapest .223 bolt action.