which is the beter varmint gun

seagullslayer1 · 12-12-2005, 05:17 PM

which is beter varmint gun for a 15 yr old to use in texas and wyoming im already prety acurate ive shot a magpie in the heart from about 50 yrds with a .22 using the aguila silent bullets. any way i want somthing deadly quick and acurate and ranging from 300 to 600 dolars i might be able to go a little higher and please say the brand you recomend

.17 hmr
.220 swift
.22 hornet
.223

.22guy · 12-12-2005, 05:51 PM

What are you going to hunt with it?

Personally, I'd go with the .223. Accurate and cheap to buy and reload. That's a creepy avatar you've got there, by the way.

seagullslayer1 · 12-12-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by .22guy

What are you going to hunt with it?
Personally, I'd go with the .223. Accurate and cheap to buy and reload. That's a creepy avatar you've got there, by the way.

ok what brand? oh andd dont get to creeped out its a boss from a game hitman bloodmoney

12-12-2005, 06:19 PM

.220 Swift is probably the better choice but I'd go with the .223 because of ammo cost too

jerry · 12-12-2005, 06:24 PM

there are tons of post on this

.22guy · 12-12-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by seagullslayer1

ok what brand? oh andd dont get to creeped out its a boss from a game hitman bloodmoney

I've heard good things about Savages. Look around on the Internet and see what is in your price range. Make sure you leave some money to buy a good scope, bipod and of course some ammo. Good luck.

maarten221 · 12-12-2005, 07:07 PM

All depends on what kinda money you are willing to lay out. Personally, if you want a load of fun and good bang for your buck, get any .223 rifle (I would prefer an AR15 based rifle with a 20" barrel") with a Leupold Mk4 MR/T (http://www.leupold.com/products/tact...products2.htm). The Leupold has built in BDC for 5.56/223 and also lit up reticle.
There are a lot of cheaper rifles available in .223 - some of the handi-rifles or even some of the really cheap break open units from Wal-mart are ok. All depends on what you want to do. .223 has very little recoil, easy to choot and about as many different bullet types and ammunition options as you could wish for - if you get the AR15 based rifle, you can buy a case of 1000 rds for around $120!

seagullslayer1 · 12-12-2005, 07:24 PM

what about the .17 how are they ive heard good things

ash · 12-12-2005, 07:44 PM

Take a look at kel-tec http://www.kel-tec.com/products.htm

practical · 12-12-2005, 08:15 PM

17 sucks in wyoming. Wind makes it pointless. Ask me how I know.

Dance&Sting · 12-12-2005, 10:23 PM

.204 ruger

practical · 12-12-2005, 10:26 PM

None of the above. 22-250 is my prarie dog rifle of choice. 220swift if I have to pick though.

seagullslayer1 · 12-16-2005, 07:05 PM

[quote=maarten221]All depends on what kinda money you are willing to lay out. QUOTE]

ive got $432.00 saved up and more on the way

Dale · 12-16-2005, 11:28 PM

[quote=seagullslayer1]

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Originally Posted by maarten221

All depends on what kinda money you are willing to lay out. QUOTE]
ive got $432.00 saved up and more on the way

I just shelled out $567 for the Savage 12BVSS 22-250 and so far I love the gun.

The accutrigger is sweet, also...adjusted all the way down and it's just fantastic.

A BIG draw-back is that the gun weighs in at 10 pounds...add the weight of a scope, sling and ammo and it's close to 12 pounds.

Another draw-back is that you have to outfit the rifle with a scope and I put a Burris Fullfield II 6.5 - 20 X 50 for another 3-4 hundred so the it's become an expensive shooter.

But I knew that going in so it's not a complaint.

It's not the gun to carry around a hundred acres but dang...it's sweet.

It's also rated at 4 shot capacity but I got 5+1 out of mine.

seagullslayer1 · 12-16-2005, 11:35 PM

well theres 2 combos i found a savgage with aa simmons scope for $485
and a winchester at walmart with a scope model 70 for $400

BattleRifleG3 · 12-16-2005, 11:57 PM

All depends on preference then. Might come down to if you want a button or fixed ejector or something like that.

Savage is THE name in accuracy though. Magazines aren't the best though.

seagullslayer1 · 12-17-2005, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

All depends on preference then. Might come down to if you want a button or fixed ejector or something like that.
Savage is THE name in accuracy though. Magazines aren't the best though.

wow... sounds like i should get the savage

practical · 12-17-2005, 12:26 AM

I would get the Savage. Oh wait, I already did.

BattleRifleG3 · 12-17-2005, 12:35 AM

I'd say the only thing Winchester has on Savage is magazine reliability. And action speed. For one-shot kills on smaller critters, not the biggest deal. For something that has good accuracy as well as better extraction and feeding, I'd suggest a Remington 700 or Weatherby Vanguard.

Dale · 12-17-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

Magazines aren't the best though.

Ya know, BRG3, I thought the internal mag on mine felt a little strange when putting the rounds in and you have to have the rounds 'just so-so' for them to slip in place.

I did find that if the rounds were not completely to the rear there were some feed issues.

It's nothing serious if you know the trick but, then again, there shouldn't be a trick involved.

It's still a great lil gun and I'm hoping on completing the sighting-in today since the past two days were quite windy.

Wednesday I did manage to get the scope pretty darned close before the winds kicked up and, perhaps, I'll also get finished breaking the barrel in today.

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seagullslayer1 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 24	which is the beter varmint gun which is beter varmint gun for a 15 yr old to use in texas and wyoming im already prety acurate ive shot a magpie in the heart from about 50 yrds with a .22 using the aguila silent bullets. any way i want somthing deadly quick and acurate and ranging from 300 to 600 dolars i might be able to go a little higher and please say the brand you recomend .17 hmr .220 swift .22 hornet .223 Last edited by seagullslayer1; 12-12-2005 at 05:59 PM.

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practical Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA/Casper, WY Posts: 736	17 sucks in wyoming. Wind makes it pointless. Ask me how I know. __________________ Eric "The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made"

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practical Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA/Casper, WY Posts: 736	None of the above. 22-250 is my prarie dog rifle of choice. 220swift if I have to pick though. __________________ Eric "The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made"

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BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,468 Images: 13	All depends on preference then. Might come down to if you want a button or fixed ejector or something like that. Savage is THE name in accuracy though. Magazines aren't the best though. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

12-12-2005, 05:51 PM	#2
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,259	What are you going to hunt with it? Personally, I'd go with the .223. Accurate and cheap to buy and reload. That's a creepy avatar you've got there, by the way.

12-12-2005, 06:19 PM	#4
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	.220 Swift is probably the better choice but I'd go with the .223 because of ammo cost too

12-12-2005, 07:07 PM	#7
maarten221 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 218	All depends on what kinda money you are willing to lay out. Personally, if you want a load of fun and good bang for your buck, get any .223 rifle (I would prefer an AR15 based rifle with a 20" barrel") with a Leupold Mk4 MR/T (http://www.leupold.com/products/tact...products2.htm). The Leupold has built in BDC for 5.56/223 and also lit up reticle. There are a lot of cheaper rifles available in .223 - some of the handi-rifles or even some of the really cheap break open units from Wal-mart are ok. All depends on what you want to do. .223 has very little recoil, easy to choot and about as many different bullet types and ammunition options as you could wish for - if you get the AR15 based rifle, you can buy a case of 1000 rds for around $120!

12-12-2005, 07:24 PM	#8
seagullslayer1 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 24	what about the .17 how are they ive heard good things

12-12-2005, 07:44 PM	#9
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: En route Posts: 934 Images: 3	Take a look at kel-tec http://www.kel-tec.com/products.htm

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Dance&Sting Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1	.204 ruger

12-16-2005, 07:05 PM	#13
seagullslayer1 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 24	[quote=maarten221]All depends on what kinda money you are willing to lay out. QUOTE] ive got $432.00 saved up and more on the way

12-16-2005, 11:35 PM	#15
seagullslayer1 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 24	well theres 2 combos i found a savgage with aa simmons scope for $485 and a winchester at walmart with a scope model 70 for $400

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practical Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA/Casper, WY Posts: 736	I would get the Savage. Oh wait, I already did. __________________ Eric "The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made"

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BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,468 Images: 13	I'd say the only thing Winchester has on Savage is magazine reliability. And action speed. For one-shot kills on smaller critters, not the biggest deal. For something that has good accuracy as well as better extraction and feeding, I'd suggest a Remington 700 or Weatherby Vanguard. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf