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Long Range · 02-10-2006, 10:13 PM

I have a pellet gun that shoots 1800 fps.can that kill coyote?

Mooseman684 · 02-10-2006, 10:24 PM

Long Range...Don't you watch the "Roadrunner".....beep beep

Long Range · 02-10-2006, 10:41 PM

what the heck

Mooseman684 · 02-10-2006, 10:47 PM

Coyotes are tough animals to kill...Wiley gets blown up, falls off a cliff, gets shot,gets creamed by boulders, and keeps coming back for more...!!!

Try this...If you can shoot thru a piece of 3/8 plywood then ,you might stand a chance of killing one with a lethal shot, but a WOUNDED animal is a lot more dangerous and it could affect a neighbor's child or pet!

Long Range · 02-10-2006, 11:15 PM

moose youre completly underestimating power a gun that shoots 1000fps
can go thru 3/8 ply Ive tried it

Shaun · 02-10-2006, 11:15 PM

even though its a varmint you have to be humane about it -- as an ethical hunter it is my responsibility to put the animal down clean and that means no suffering. So I would rethink the use of the pellet gun for a coyote why not get yourself a crossbow and take them out in a good manner

Shaun · 02-10-2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long Range

moose youre completly underestimating power a gun that shoots 1000fps
can go thru 3/8 ply Ive tried it

I don't think he is remember one advantage of the large and slow is sectional density -- whats a pellet weight maybe 40 grains if your lucky

Beer Forever · 02-10-2006, 11:25 PM

I am not much on killing or hurting animals

I've got two cats and three dogs that I treat as though they were my kids.

Long Range · 02-10-2006, 11:35 PM

this is not a pet it is a threat

Mooseman684 · 02-10-2006, 11:38 PM

Wild animals have an uncanny way of the bleeding stopping after a non-lethal hit...a .17 cal. pellet just will not open a large enough wound channel or cause enough Shock to a wild animal to be effective. That is my opinion from seeing Dogs shot with pellet rifles,.22's, and seeing Coyotes take several hits from .22 stingers in the heart/lung area and they run off maybe to live , maybe to die... Muzzle energy with a pellet is only 80 lbs. and will fall off drastically at a range safe for you to shoot em. Its all about the energy!

Long Range · 02-10-2006, 11:38 PM

I an get them in at 10 yards.A shot thru the head will kill it

Mooseman684 · 02-10-2006, 11:53 PM

I know of kids shot in the eye with a pellet rifle...didn't kill em...just blinded em. Lots of people have survived shots to the head. even that guy that shot himself with a nail gun and put one in his brain survived...If you dont cause a massive explosion inside the skull of an animal with a bullet that has energy, I'm saying the odds for a clean kill are very low especially with a wild animal !

Shaun · 02-11-2006, 12:03 AM

coyote will not come within 10 feet they are alert and always looking for a possible threat. I have hunted my share of these animals and one thing is that you have to hit them hard and do damage

Troy · 02-11-2006, 12:07 AM

well the question was "would an 1800 fps pellet gun kill a yote?", and while a lucky shot may do it, i think that the answer would be no. i really believe your setting yourself up for dissapointment. shaun has a good point on the ethical killing deal. and i believe that moose is correct about the 177 cal pellet not making enough damage to get the job done. and yeah at 1800 fps i still believe this.

Long Range · 02-11-2006, 12:09 AM

moose those people got medical attention also I never said I needed a clean kill just a kill shaun were you elevated 30 feet when in a tree stand ive had them one right up to the tree also a shot in the spine would drop it

Long Range · 02-11-2006, 12:13 AM

well they have killed pets they might go for kids they need to die any ideas on how to kill them silently?

Mooseman684 · 02-11-2006, 12:22 AM

Ok, let me put it this way, you evidently have Neighbors, restrictions of some sort ,or you are in a city where you can't use something a little more powerful or loud. So, IF YOU WOUND an animal and it goes over to your neighbors house and their Child gets bitten that's playing in the yard,YOU are responsible and they can SUE the Shorts off of you for negligence, etc. Is it worth the Risk ??? Have you considered Traps, Snares, or calling animal control ??? By the way, Animals can heal without medical attention cause they live Wild and the Strong survive, and That's what makes em tough, the point was that a head shot without sufficient energy is NON-Lethal !

Long Range · 02-11-2006, 12:48 AM

some kid is going to get hurt anyways any sugestions

Shaun · 02-11-2006, 01:27 AM

try looking at a crossbow effective ranges are out to 65 yards like a rifle and you will get good kills silently.

Mooseman684 · 02-11-2006, 01:34 AM

Is it one Coyote or a Pack ???
How Close are the neighbors ?
Are there dogs and cats loose in the Neighborhood?
Are you in city limits ?
If you fired ONE round, would the Neighbors call the cops?
What time of night are they coming into your yard ?

Answers to these questions may give us a direction to look at !

02-10-2006, 10:13 PM	#1
Long Range Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: the ozark mountains Posts: 12	new gun I have a pellet gun that shoots 1800 fps.can that kill coyote?

02-10-2006, 10:24 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,567 Images: 2	Long Range...Don't you watch the "Roadrunner".....beep beep __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-10-2006, 10:47 PM	#4
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,567 Images: 2	Coyotes are tough animals to kill...Wiley gets blown up, falls off a cliff, gets shot,gets creamed by boulders, and keeps coming back for more...!!! Try this...If you can shoot thru a piece of 3/8 plywood then ,you might stand a chance of killing one with a lethal shot, but a WOUNDED animal is a lot more dangerous and it could affect a neighbor's child or pet! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-10-2006, 11:15 PM	#6
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,621 Images: 1	even though its a varmint you have to be humane about it -- as an ethical hunter it is my responsibility to put the animal down clean and that means no suffering. So I would rethink the use of the pellet gun for a coyote why not get yourself a crossbow and take them out in a good manner __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

02-10-2006, 11:25 PM	#8
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	I am not much on killing or hurting animals I've got two cats and three dogs that I treat as though they were my kids. __________________ Paramedic sks forever Last edited by Beer Forever; 02-10-2006 at 11:30 PM.

02-10-2006, 10:41 PM	#3
Long Range Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: the ozark mountains Posts: 12	what the heck

02-10-2006, 11:35 PM	#9
Long Range Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: the ozark mountains Posts: 12	this is not a pet it is a threat

02-10-2006, 11:38 PM	#10
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,567 Images: 2	Wild animals have an uncanny way of the bleeding stopping after a non-lethal hit...a .17 cal. pellet just will not open a large enough wound channel or cause enough Shock to a wild animal to be effective. That is my opinion from seeing Dogs shot with pellet rifles,.22's, and seeing Coyotes take several hits from .22 stingers in the heart/lung area and they run off maybe to live , maybe to die... Muzzle energy with a pellet is only 80 lbs. and will fall off drastically at a range safe for you to shoot em. Its all about the energy! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-10-2006, 11:53 PM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,567 Images: 2	I know of kids shot in the eye with a pellet rifle...didn't kill em...just blinded em. Lots of people have survived shots to the head. even that guy that shot himself with a nail gun and put one in his brain survived...If you dont cause a massive explosion inside the skull of an animal with a bullet that has energy, I'm saying the odds for a clean kill are very low especially with a wild animal ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-11-2006, 12:03 AM	#13
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,621 Images: 1	coyote will not come within 10 feet they are alert and always looking for a possible threat. I have hunted my share of these animals and one thing is that you have to hit them hard and do damage __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

02-11-2006, 12:07 AM	#14
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,505 Images: 3	well the question was "would an 1800 fps pellet gun kill a yote?", and while a lucky shot may do it, i think that the answer would be no. i really believe your setting yourself up for dissapointment. shaun has a good point on the ethical killing deal. and i believe that moose is correct about the 177 cal pellet not making enough damage to get the job done. and yeah at 1800 fps i still believe this.

02-11-2006, 12:09 AM	#15
Long Range Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: the ozark mountains Posts: 12	moose those people got medical attention also I never said I needed a clean kill just a kill shaun were you elevated 30 feet when in a tree stand ive had them one right up to the tree also a shot in the spine would drop it

02-11-2006, 12:13 AM	#16
Long Range Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: the ozark mountains Posts: 12	well they have killed pets they might go for kids they need to die any ideas on how to kill them silently?

02-11-2006, 12:22 AM	#17
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,567 Images: 2	Ok, let me put it this way, you evidently have Neighbors, restrictions of some sort ,or you are in a city where you can't use something a little more powerful or loud. So, IF YOU WOUND an animal and it goes over to your neighbors house and their Child gets bitten that's playing in the yard,YOU are responsible and they can SUE the Shorts off of you for negligence, etc. Is it worth the Risk ??? Have you considered Traps, Snares, or calling animal control ??? By the way, Animals can heal without medical attention cause they live Wild and the Strong survive, and That's what makes em tough, the point was that a head shot without sufficient energy is NON-Lethal ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-11-2006, 12:48 AM	#18
Long Range Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: the ozark mountains Posts: 12	some kid is going to get hurt anyways any sugestions

02-11-2006, 01:27 AM	#19
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,621 Images: 1	try looking at a crossbow effective ranges are out to 65 yards like a rifle and you will get good kills silently. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

02-11-2006, 01:34 AM	#20
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,567 Images: 2	Is it one Coyote or a Pack ??? How Close are the neighbors ? Are there dogs and cats loose in the Neighborhood? Are you in city limits ? If you fired ONE round, would the Neighbors call the cops? What time of night are they coming into your yard ? Answers to these questions may give us a direction to look at ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!