.223, .243 or.22/ 250

young hunter · 12-09-2006, 09:30 AM

Hey guys im a young youth getting in to hunting i do alot of coyote hunting with dogs and im looking to start calling so i need to get a good rifle so i can blast coyotes around 200-250 yards i cant decide what caliber i should get .243 .22/250 or a .223 it doesnt really matter which cal. but like a say im still a tennager in school so it really matters on price looking for around 200 dollar price range so send me so answers on where to buy a cheap coyote rifle thanxs alote

lefty o · 12-09-2006, 11:31 AM

all 3 will work fine at the ranges you list. but the .223 is cheaper!

.22guy · 12-09-2006, 11:36 AM

Go with the .223.

myarmor · 12-09-2006, 12:18 PM

A 223 H&R "Ultra Varmint" with laminated stocks and 24" bull barrel..
around $250...

H & R Firearms: Firearms: Rifles - Ultra Hunter/Ultra Varmint

Or a regular Handi rifle would do to..around $200. But I prefer the "Ultra" models.

H & R Firearms: Firearms: Rifles - Superlight/Synthetic

Zen900 · 12-09-2006, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myarmor

A 223 H&R "Ultra Varmint" with laminated stocks and 24" bull barrel..
around $250...

What type of accuracy do you get with the H&Rs at 100yds and 200yds?

frozentorso · 12-09-2006, 10:36 PM

.223 or .22-250 are both ideal, but the .243 is more versatile if cash flow is a problem.

.22guy · 12-09-2006, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myarmor

A 223 H&R "Ultra Varmint" with laminated stocks and 24" bull barrel..
around $250...

H & R Firearms: Firearms: Rifles - Ultra Hunter/Ultra Varmint

Or a regular Handi rifle would do to..around $200. But I prefer the "Ultra" models.

H & R Firearms: Firearms: Rifles - Superlight/Synthetic

Do you know anything about adding barrels on these things? Apparently you can ship the rifle to them and they will fit a new barrel. Is this a good idea? Seems like you could have 3-4 rifles/shotguns in one....

John N · 12-09-2006, 11:34 PM

yes 22guy u can send the reciver and forarm in so they can fit the new barrel to the reciver and forarm your reciver has to start with a sertant serial # to except sertant barrel i have a NEF that will take almost every barrel there is just have never dont it yet wanting to real bad so i can get a 25-06 barrel i was just wondering if any one on this site has done this so they can tell me how long it takes to get the gun back,yes u could have sevrel guns in 1 it would be cool even could get a black powder barrel to if a person wanted 1

myarmor · 12-11-2006, 02:46 AM

I believe they won't fit any high pressure barrels to any SB-2 receivers (centerfire rifle receivers) dating from 96' back. But from 99' on your in the clear and can order all but the 10ga and 12ga Ultra Slug Hunter barrels. Yes It is a good idea. TC has a lot of marketing for an all in 1 gun...but truth be told, you can do the same thing with an NEF/H&R Handi rifle.
Go for it.

rdnckhnter · 12-11-2006, 12:49 PM

ide say the .243 or the .223 the .223 would be cheaper tho

myarmor · 12-11-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen900

What type of accuracy do you get with the H&Rs at 100yds and 200yds?

With my 24" Ultra model, I get 1/2" at 100, I have got better but thats the avarage. It took a little tinkering with the rifle to get this out of it, barrel break in, solid mounts, etc. and also learning how to shoot these little rifles is a bit different than a Bolt action. But thats with me doing my part, and good loads.
Which isn't always with handloads either. Winchester White Box 45gr JHP's shoot excellent though both my 223s as many 223 Handi owners have found.
I have taken groundhogs up too 375 with the little 45gr bullets, but any farther than that the wind can play alot and blow that little guy around. Both mine are the older 1-12 twist. Now they have switched to a 1-9. Which by all means should spin out the heavier pills better, but the Micro groove rifling is a little shallow. Still it will shoot the 55grain offerings better than the older 1-12's for the most part.

woodster · 12-13-2006, 06:24 PM

I use a Savage 24" heavy barrel, 1:9 twist and reload with Barnes 70gr triple shock. I also use my .243 Remington 700 VLS as it is a more versatile caliber and maybe worth considering for your overall shooting and hunting needs.

chester12 · 12-28-2006, 11:14 AM

I have personally not sent a handi rifle back to the factory, but I know people that have. First off you have to make sure that they have the barrel in stock that you want, otherwise you will end up waiting a lot longer. Other then that, the time that I have heard ranges from 2 weeks at the shortest, to about 5 weeks at the longest.

One other thing, if you have a trigger jog done, and you send a handi back to the factory, they will nicely reset the trigger back to the original pull weight. Something to watch out with.

I would go with the .243 personally, you have a better range of animals that you can take with the .243. I know that with head shots it work wonders with hogs, and it is not bad with body shots either.

Chester

Oh yeah, with a handi rifle, if it start as anything other then a center fire rifle (shotgun, muzzleloader), you can not have them put on center fire rifle barrels. But if it started as a centerfire it can get any barrel that you want.

Beer Forever · 12-28-2006, 01:09 PM

I think that a Saiga .223 would do the job.

jdvl · 01-04-2007, 02:14 PM

The .223 is the cheaper one for ammo... but it's a little light in 20+ mile an hour winds... I was hunting in Oct. SD for prarie dogs, using both 22-250 and .223 both were being blown all over.... ended using a 7.62x54r Romak 3 sniper rifle... it worked great...ammo's cheap but the gun will run $700+ Have fun.......

CrazyIvan · 01-04-2007, 02:21 PM

I want one of these:

The .45 Bushmaster Rifle

a .45 cal AR15...whoo hoo!!! hehe.

frozentorso · 01-04-2007, 08:42 PM

I'm seriously thinking about a .308 or .243 SS upper for mine!

reloader · 01-13-2007, 10:04 PM

hey man i hunt with a .223 now i load a hot load with 24.1 reloader7 that will take anything down i use a v max bullet by hornady and i will tell you that it wont through a groudhog at 50yrds ... if you want to hunt cyote use this load its pretty acc but be carful that you dont overload past that... i love my 223 i shot aginst a 204 bench rests and a 22-250 and i out shot them.... stevens 223 is very cheep maby $250 and i reload.... if you want to save the hide trust the v max at 300 even at 75-100 will not pass all the way through... i would pick a 223 over a 204 anyday

Quote:

Originally Posted by young hunter

Hey guys im a young youth getting in to hunting i do alot of coyote hunting with dogs and im looking to start calling so i need to get a good rifle so i can blast coyotes around 200-250 yards i cant decide what caliber i should get .243 .22/250 or a .223 it doesnt really matter which cal. but like a say im still a tennager in school so it really matters on price looking for around 200 dollar price range so send me so answers on where to buy a cheap coyote rifle thanxs alote

hey man i hunt with a 223 and it loaded with 24.1 grns of reloader 7 powder by allient... or aka hur.. now this is a hot load .. im dropin down to 22.5 and its workin great... if you want to save the hide use the v-max bullet up to about 200yrs... i just changed to sxsp super explosive speer point they penatrate about 2-3 inches deeper and just blow up ..... i hunt with a 223 stevens .223 i got it for about $230 with out a scope. i have a taco 10x 40 powerx 50 on it and i love it i would use it for deer... nothing can take it away from me...the scope would run u about $180 but its nice...

frozentorso · 01-14-2007, 12:06 PM

hey man u yuze 55 grane bulets on dear man i wood only may be yuze 75 grane.... if i had the write bulet for dear... man the last time i had a 10x40 power taco i had th sh**s for a weak man

JBS · 01-14-2007, 12:44 PM

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12-09-2006, 09:30 AM	#1
young hunter Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2	.223, .243 or.22/ 250 Hey guys im a young youth getting in to hunting i do alot of coyote hunting with dogs and im looking to start calling so i need to get a good rifle so i can blast coyotes around 200-250 yards i cant decide what caliber i should get .243 .22/250 or a .223 it doesnt really matter which cal. but like a say im still a tennager in school so it really matters on price looking for around 200 dollar price range so send me so answers on where to buy a cheap coyote rifle thanxs alote

12-09-2006, 10:36 PM	#6
frozentorso Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North East Texas Posts: 592	.223 or .22-250 are both ideal, but the .243 is more versatile if cash flow is a problem. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry. Thats just my game!"

12-11-2006, 12:49 PM	#10
rdnckhnter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pennsylvania and new jersey right on the bored Posts: 182	ide say the .243 or the .223 the .223 would be cheaper tho __________________ My long hair dont cover my redneck and u know what im ok with that

12-28-2006, 11:14 AM	#13
chester12 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 49	I have personally not sent a handi rifle back to the factory, but I know people that have. First off you have to make sure that they have the barrel in stock that you want, otherwise you will end up waiting a lot longer. Other then that, the time that I have heard ranges from 2 weeks at the shortest, to about 5 weeks at the longest. One other thing, if you have a trigger jog done, and you send a handi back to the factory, they will nicely reset the trigger back to the original pull weight. Something to watch out with. I would go with the .243 personally, you have a better range of animals that you can take with the .243. I know that with head shots it work wonders with hogs, and it is not bad with body shots either. Chester Oh yeah, with a handi rifle, if it start as anything other then a center fire rifle (shotgun, muzzleloader), you can not have them put on center fire rifle barrels. But if it started as a centerfire it can get any barrel that you want. Last edited by chester12; 12-28-2006 at 11:18 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

12-28-2006, 01:09 PM	#14
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I think that a Saiga .223 would do the job. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

12-09-2006, 11:31 AM	#2
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,816	all 3 will work fine at the ranges you list. but the .223 is cheaper!

12-09-2006, 11:36 AM	#3
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,166	Go with the .223.

12-09-2006, 12:18 PM	#4
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	A 223 H&R "Ultra Varmint" with laminated stocks and 24" bull barrel.. around $250... H & R Firearms: Firearms: Rifles - Ultra Hunter/Ultra Varmint Or a regular Handi rifle would do to..around $200. But I prefer the "Ultra" models. H & R Firearms: Firearms: Rifles - Superlight/Synthetic

12-09-2006, 11:34 PM	#8
John N Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 12	yes 22guy u can send the reciver and forarm in so they can fit the new barrel to the reciver and forarm your reciver has to start with a sertant serial # to except sertant barrel i have a NEF that will take almost every barrel there is just have never dont it yet wanting to real bad so i can get a 25-06 barrel i was just wondering if any one on this site has done this so they can tell me how long it takes to get the gun back,yes u could have sevrel guns in 1 it would be cool even could get a black powder barrel to if a person wanted 1

12-11-2006, 02:46 AM	#9
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	I believe they won't fit any high pressure barrels to any SB-2 receivers (centerfire rifle receivers) dating from 96' back. But from 99' on your in the clear and can order all but the 10ga and 12ga Ultra Slug Hunter barrels. Yes It is a good idea. TC has a lot of marketing for an all in 1 gun...but truth be told, you can do the same thing with an NEF/H&R Handi rifle. Go for it.

12-13-2006, 06:24 PM	#12
woodster Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: High Desert, California Posts: 433	I use a Savage 24" heavy barrel, 1:9 twist and reload with Barnes 70gr triple shock. I also use my .243 Remington 700 VLS as it is a more versatile caliber and maybe worth considering for your overall shooting and hunting needs.

01-04-2007, 02:14 PM	#15
jdvl Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2	The .223 is the cheaper one for ammo... but it's a little light in 20+ mile an hour winds... I was hunting in Oct. SD for prarie dogs, using both 22-250 and .223 both were being blown all over.... ended using a 7.62x54r Romak 3 sniper rifle... it worked great...ammo's cheap but the gun will run $700+ Have fun.......

01-04-2007, 02:21 PM	#16
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,387	I want one of these: The .45 Bushmaster Rifle a .45 cal AR15...whoo hoo!!! hehe.

01-04-2007, 08:42 PM	#17
frozentorso Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North East Texas Posts: 592	I'm seriously thinking about a .308 or .243 SS upper for mine! __________________ "I'm your huckleberry. Thats just my game!"

01-14-2007, 12:06 PM	#19
frozentorso Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North East Texas Posts: 592	hey man u yuze 55 grane bulets on dear man i wood only may be yuze 75 grane.... if i had the write bulet for dear... man the last time i had a 10x40 power taco i had th sh**s for a weak man __________________ "I'm your huckleberry. Thats just my game!"

01-14-2007, 12:44 PM	#20
JBS Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 763	Roflmfao Last edited by JBS; 01-15-2007 at 12:57 PM. Reason: caint spel rite