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01-10-2008, 10:58 AM
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#41 | | Firearm Zealot
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From personal experience,I find a great difference between any rimfire and the smallest centerfire.You may not miss a heartbeat shooting at coyotes at 150yds with a .17 rimfire,I doubt that it would affect the yote much more. sam.
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01-10-2008, 11:22 AM
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#42 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Sam did you check out that site i said i don't have a cronagraph but Al did and the .17 HMR graphs are inpressive for a rim fire wind does't seem to effect it as much as people think it does
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01-10-2008, 12:13 PM
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#43 | | Firearm Zealot
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I wouldn't shoot a coyote with a 17 HMR at all. To light of bullet. Try a .223
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01-10-2008, 12:58 PM
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#44 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Would a barret 50 cal work on coyotes?
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01-10-2008, 04:26 PM
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#45 | | Firearm Aficionado
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What u talking about too light a bullet? its only a yote. Who cares under about a 100 yards. and if ur going by bullet weight a 223 only has another 20 grains.
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01-10-2008, 05:43 PM
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#46 | | Firearm Zealot
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only a yote huh?
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01-10-2008, 05:55 PM
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#47 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Magnumsrule | What u talking about too light a bullet? its only a yote. Who cares under about a 100 yards. and if ur going by bullet weight a 223 only has another 20 grains. | HAHA!!! Only another 20 grains? JUST BY WEIGHT!?!?!?! LOL!!! Excuse me if I am wrong, but wouldn't "only" 20 more grains make it at least twice as heavy?
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01-10-2008, 09:20 PM
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#48 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Oh well i see you graduated from kindergarten. Duh DUh DUHHHHHHH. All im saying is that is a yote. Not a 2000 pound moose, or a grizz. A yote. People use the 22 mag for shootin yotes. Under 100 yards whats the problem. It works.
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01-10-2008, 09:51 PM
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#49 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Lepa4013 | Would a barret 50 cal work on coyotes? |
Hmmmm.....naaaaah, I think you need to go 20mm.
Seriously though, even though I haven't hunted coyotes, but to me if you can get a headshot, I see no problem. If not, use something a little bigger.
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01-10-2008, 10:11 PM
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#50 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Use whatever you're comfortable with, theres no way to please everyone on how u choose to hunt animals.
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01-10-2008, 10:19 PM
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#51 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Well i have a question. Are people wanting to keep the pelts? If so then ya you prob want to step up the cartridge size to make kills from whatever distance, and do them fast. But if not and you have patience then whats the problem with using whatever works the best. Of course i still think that this cartridge is not good for shootin animals like deer. That seems sad to me that people would try that. Yotes are mainly pests and i think people wouldnt care if you where using a pellet gun to shoot ground squirlles. Basiccaly the same thing on a larger scale. 17 being the bottom end and 223- 243 being on the top end. For squirls pellet guns being on the bottom 22mag - 17HMR being on the top. They can overlap slightly.
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01-11-2008, 09:37 AM
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#52 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Well yeah a 17 or 22 on a deer isn't right, the laws here say the gun needs to have 900foot pounds of force at 100 yards to be legal.
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01-11-2008, 02:39 PM
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#53 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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just ordered a Hawke Varmint 11 4x 16x 44 AO Mill dot riflescope hope to get it soon to try on my .17 HMR.Does anyone have any opinions on that kind of scope?Good or bad experinces i would like to know.
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01-11-2008, 02:44 PM
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#54 | | Firearm Zealot
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If you are target practicing that scope is great.If hunting,dont go any higher power. sam.
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01-11-2008, 02:49 PM
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#55 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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target shooting and plinking is what i wanted it for.it is a inexpensive scope but has a lot of good features i think it is made in japan and is multi coated lens parelex adjustment from 15 to infenity
sounded better than the BSA and pine ridge scopes heard a lot of bad things about those brands
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01-11-2008, 03:04 PM
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#56 | | Firearm Zealot
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It sounds good.A 4x16 power can be used for hunting but a lower power like a 2.5x7 is easier to get on target and has mire light.But a 4x16 is great for targets. sam.
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01-11-2008, 08:29 PM
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#57 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Where I hunt the owner won't let us use anything bigger than a 22. Like I said I have killed deer with my 17 hollow point bullets. If most of you think its to small for coyotes I have a 243 and a Marlin 44mag rifle I know my 444 and 4570 are way to big. Which do you think would be better? I will use my 1187 for close shots. Like I said I have never hunted coyotes before.
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01-11-2008, 08:52 PM
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#58 | | Firearm Aficionado
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If the ownders wont let u use bigger then i wouldent hunt there. They obviously dont know any of the laws or abide by hunting ethics. A 444 would be better used on deer than a 17.
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01-12-2008, 01:54 PM
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#59 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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In NC it's legal to use a 17 to hunt deer.
I know a guy that has a huge pack of mixed up Chiquahas that he turns loose, the deer stand and look at them and is I guess dumbfounded, he then shoots the deer with a 22 magnum rifle. If I had not seen it with my own eyes I would not have believed it.
The owner had a bullet come through his house from a large rifle, thats why no larger caliber rifles. He's a nice guy so I can understand why. The bullet just missed hitting his wife, he could have stopped letting people hunt at all but he didn't.
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01-13-2008, 03:05 AM
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#60 | | Firearm Aficionado
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As long as its by the law and its being done without the suffering of animals. If the population is way out of control then i guess they should be thinned down.
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