[Ole Sarge]

In my stupid state, you can hunt coyote till midnight, but cannot use anything larger than a .22 rimfire after sundown. What other options do I have??

[AllAlaskan]

Quote:       Originally Posted by the_harbinger

< lvl.57 paladin.

lol

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46 Hunter
42 Shamen

Man I feel like a nerd now lol o well.

[deserthobbies]

I love my 17hmr but i got it for a squirrel gun, very acurate at 100-200 yrds, on a calm day with no wind with a sweet 17 scope, I don't think I would use it for coyotes though.

[TikkaTakDriver]

I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read thru all those posts. Maybe I'm quoting what someone else has already said. With my .17 I wouldn't hesitate to throw a 20 gr at one @ 100yds. It's not gonna be devastating but at 100 yds with calm wind, the .17(or at least mine) can put one in the boiler room no problem. Now is he gonna drop on the spot? Most likely he will not, but he's not gonna make it too far with his necessary breathing tools inop. To take it a step further, If you had a steady rest you could put one in his gord. I don't imagine he would make it more than the about 15 inches straight down after that.

[jason1965]

I think it would be even easier to use a higher power rifle,let's say a 7.62x54r soft point 203 grain,that should not have any problem dropping a yote where it stands,and wind would not be a factor.

[TxYoteHunter]

I've got a .17 for squirrels and things in that size range. Haven't tried it on coyotes. I think I'll stick with the .243 for that. They only roll a little after they get hit but they don't get up.

[JET1]

i have a 17HMR that i took on a fox hunt and it proved to be underpowered even for fox showing me i wouldnt even attempt shooting yotes i recament a 22-250 i dont know what kind of yotes you have but a 203 gr bullet in 30 cal thats retarded most people hunting yotes are looking for pelt control smaller the bullet the better and perferably somehting that will stay in the animal 50 gr bullets seem to work fine

[petemi]

I have both 17HMR and .22-250. I'd love to use the 250, but Michigan only allows rimfires at night. The shots are close and the 17 works fine on yotes and fox.

I don't doubt the 17 will shoot 300 yards, but you could probably catch it with a fielders mit......joking.

[Morgan]

My personal opion is you owe it to the game to put it down as quickly and painless as possible even if it is a yotie. Rimfires are not anything I consider to be a yotie round in any 17 or 22 cal. a 17 Rem. is a centerfir round that works good in diffrent situations I have used it it packs alot more punchthan a hmr alot more. I like ant 22 cal centerfire up to a 243. I also love a good 110gr. .30cal in 3006 thats fun.

[samuel]

Quote:       Originally Posted by petemi

I have both 17HMR and .22-250. I'd love to use the 250, but Michigan only allows rimfires at night. The shots are close and the 17 works fine on yotes and fox. I don't doubt the 17 will shoot 300 yards, but you could probably catch it with a fielders mit......joking.

I've hunted in Michigan a lot of years including last night when I got three yotes with a 12ga and #4 buck and never heard that law on what I can use.I use a shotgun at night,altho I have used a .22Hornet and have had wardens waiting on me when I came out and they never said a word,outside of asking what I used and shaking their head 'yes' when I told them.I'm not saying you are wrong. I will check it out. sam.

[samuel]

petemi: you are right,only rimfire or shotguns other than buckshot or slugs.That wont cramp my style much except I hate all of the little holes #2,s make.Strange,I have been checked but they never bothered me.Could be the law is fairly new.Good luck on your hunts. sam.

[petemi]

Quote:       Originally Posted by samuel

petemi: you are right,only rimfire or shotguns other than buckshot or slugs.That wont cramp my style much except I hate all of the little holes #2,s make.Strange,I have been checked but they never bothered me.Could be the law is fairly new.Good luck on your hunts. sam.

No, it's not a new law. Page 32 of the 2008 Michigan guide. I get them whenever I can see them, day or night. Night shots are always close and the 17 works well. All of my shotguns work at those ranges also. I never tried the .357 Mag. Blackhawk, but it might be something to look into. My .357 Handi Rifle is a tack driver at 60 yards. I use it during the day and it does well. Messes up a pelt though, unless it's a head shot.

[Boulder319]

I can't believe no one out there is defending the hmr. Its all I ever shoot. I live in southwest florida. 2 weeks ago i got a 175 lbs boar. I feel you folks are being lazy and taking the easy center mass shoots.Try shooting eyeballs at 200 yards in the middle of the night.

[AllAlaskan]

There is a guy at work who said he watched a buddy drop a 150 lb hog using an HMR in the ear one shot one kill, and he seems to be pretty honost about tha tkind of stuff.

[RimfireSpaz]

Ok, i was lazy, and did not read through all the posts..but when their are calibers such as the .223 on up, why would you chance it with a .17hmr...and if you have to ask if it would be suitable, you should probably not be hunting in the first place...not with a .17 that is.

[AllAlaskan]

lol never said I did Just saying what I have heard. If it was me I wouldnt go with a .17 for yotes.

[saddletramp]

That was a great shot to whack a coyote with a .17. They are fast and have a nice flat trajectory, but not a lot of knock down power for anything larger than a woodchuck. For a merciful quick kill I would recommend something a bit more potent. The .17 should be good for anything you would take with a .22 and at a greater distance due to its faster speed.
But smaller rounds mean less energy.
I have one of the nice Savage .17 HMR rifles. It will do head shots on gophers at 300 feet using a good scope. That is what I bought it for. Every year the gophers from the corn field across the road feel obligated to aerate my yard with unwanted holes. The old .22 I have was a bit worn and often missed them with the end result of just making them more watchful.
I was returning the favor of making holes in them.
So I bought the .17 Savage because the 12 gauge was disturbing my neighbors. (Wonder why. It's only a 12)
I have been scrutinizing the specs of several types of ammo. As fast as it is, the .223 has no more energy at 200 yards than the 30-30. Simply because the 30-30 is larger and heavier.
The .223 is easier to put on the target due to its flatter trajectory, but is also more sensitive to cross wind due to its lighter weight.
I have been giving serious thought to a new 30-30 using the new Hornady Revolution ammo. It will extend the range of a 30-30 well past the point of standard ammo and it carries more energy at 300 yards than a .223.
Negative point - the 30-30 ammo is more expensive.
Positive point - Marlin and Mossberg have new 30-30 for $400.
Best price on a new .223 is around $1000.
So do I spend more money on the rifle or on ammo?
I really like the new Mini 14 from Ruger starting at $1000.

[Cross Hair]

I was poking around the local gun shop and being the coyote hunting enthusiast I am I asked what would be an appropriate coyote gun and to my horror he kept going on and on about the 17! I wonder how many dissapointed new coyote hunters have taken the advice. I didnt argue with him, just bought a few boxes of 7.62x39 rounds and left to go coyote hunting. At real close range, if you got a tumbler in the bread basket, it would kill one, but you would still have to probably walk a hundred yards or better to retrieve it. I agree 100% with Morgans post above about the humane factor in any hunting. I wont even use my .22 mag on coyotes unless they are right out my kitchen window and its the only rifle handy!

[saddletramp]

You wouldn't have any pelt left if you used a 155MM. I know cuz I fired those noisy darned things in the army. That's why I'm half deaf.
But hey, it WOULD do the job. HEH HEH!

Quote:       Originally Posted by Palladin8

There was a bear taken by a guy in Tahoe City just outside of the Resort area of Lake Tahoe. The bear was so big it looked like a Grizzly. I think it weighed close to 800lbs. There was a picture of it at the Sportsman Warehouse in Reno. It said he shot it with a 158gr .357 mag. I would want at least a 155mm Howitzer battery Scott

[teamlungbuster]

the 17 will work but it might not always if your going to use it take head shots thats all i can say. i would look at geting a .223 i found this is the best round for the buck.