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02-25-2009, 11:20 AM
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#141 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I have never used the 17hmr so I can't say yes or no. I shoot a .223 with a 55 grain bullet and have no tracking problems at all.
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03-05-2009, 02:09 AM
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#142 | | Registered User
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i have tested several rounds in the past and found that the cci plastic tipped tnt, and the winchester vmax get alot better pen. than the horn. i have downed 6 deer and 25 coyotes with it. with deer i don't take the chance of a body shot, at a hundred yards you cant beat them, i have killed several coyotes at 200-250 with heart shots the winchester v max penetrates and explodes vs. the horn. they explode on contact. but a head shot is the best in all cases. i am a skilled marksman, trained by my father a swat sharp shooter and wouldn't recomend these distance shots for most unless you fully understand windage and the ballistics of the round i use a redfield 10-40x50 illuminated scope with a savage model 93 bull barrel and syn. stock with a bi-pod of course, fo the average shooter 243 or bigger is best fit for coyotes and deer.
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03-05-2009, 03:55 PM
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#143 | | Firearm Aficionado 
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Originally Posted by bwfarrier513  | i have downed 6 deer with it. | is that even legal?
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03-05-2009, 07:42 PM
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#144 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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not legal hear in mississippi has to be bigger than .22 cal. i hate to say it i kinda broke that law i killed a 6 point with mine right after i got it he was 25 yards away and their i was with noting but a 17 so i did it althout i was only 16 years old i would never attempt it again i think it was mostly luck, to big of a wound risk.
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03-05-2009, 08:18 PM
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#145 | | Firearm Aficionado
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someone needs to center back in reality. Check : Im in.Are you.
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03-05-2009, 09:13 PM
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#146 | | Registered User
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not legal in ohio but when you own your own land here you can do what ever the hell you want. i do it for the challange, but more often than not i use a hell of a lot bigger gun. i use a mosin nagant 7.62x54 for coyotes and a rem 870 with a rifled barrel for deer
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03-06-2009, 03:16 PM
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#147 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by bwfarrier513 | not legal in ohio but when you own your own land here you can do what ever the hell you want. |
im not 100% on this but im pretty sure that rule doesnt change wether you own your own land or not
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03-06-2009, 03:35 PM
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#148 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Game laws apply no matter what land you are on. I own my own land but the Game Warden still has his say.
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03-06-2009, 08:50 PM
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#149 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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well like i said i was young and stupid no one should ever attempt this as it is not etihcal and i am not proud of it just saying the gun will do it and as troll said the game warden gets the last say own land or not.
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03-06-2009, 09:01 PM
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#150 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Central Illinois... Middle of Nowhere
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Whether you own the land or not, mans law still applies, this being said, if my family was starving and it wasnt deer season I see nothin' wrong with harvesting something for the freezer, but thats an exception to the rule.
Shotgun or bow for deer here in IL so I wouldnt know anything about getting to down a buck with a rifle! LOL maybe in the future... of course I do own my own property!!!! LOL and even then, I would leave the skilled shots needed with a .17 to a skilled marksman like bwfarrier!?!? 
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03-26-2009, 12:22 AM
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#151 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: boise, id
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First timer on this forum. Moved to Idaho from Alaska 13 years ago. What a different world down here!! I got into varmint hunting 3 years ago. Needed to kill something. I have taken 2 coyotes with my savage 17hmr at 75 yards or less, wasn't a problem. Head shot, Hornady XTP 20 grain. I also hunt with a Remington SPS H barrel .204 with a Nikon Monarch 5.5 x 16 x 44 AO, attached bipod. Hornady 40 grain. The .204 is a great round with pin point shots, yes more expensive then the .223. But it makes a hell of a mess with coyotes.
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03-26-2009, 12:32 AM
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#152 | | Firearm Zealot
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^^ Now that i can believe lol. Idk about a heart shot at 200-250 yds with a 17 hmr. sounds damn near impossible if you ask me. although i did see a video on youtube of a guy shooting blackbirds at what he claimed was 225 yds with his 17 hmr...i think that was the distance anyway. idk but i can't imgaine it being effective on any type of game long range because it loses a lot of energy real quick and would blow all over the place. who knows i don't own one. yet.
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03-26-2009, 01:04 AM
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#153 | | Firearm Aficionado
Join Date: Apr 2003
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| 250 yd shots with .17
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Originally Posted by bwfarrier513 i have tested several rounds in the past and found that the cci plastic tipped tnt, and the winchester vmax get alot better pen. than the horn. i have downed 6 deer and 25 coyotes with it. with deer i don't take the chance of a body shot, at a hundred yards you cant beat them, i have killed several coyotes at 200-250 with heart shots the winchester v max penetrates and explodes vs. the horn. they explode on contact. but a head shot is the best in all cases. i am a skilled marksman, trained by my father a swat sharp shooter and wouldn't recomend these distance shots for most unless you fully understand windage and the ballistics of the round i use a redfield 10-40x50 illuminated scope with a savage model 93 bull barrel and syn. stock with a bi-pod of course, fo the average shooter 243 or bigger is best fit for coyotes and deer.
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03-26-2009, 01:15 AM
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#154 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: boise, id
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I will be hunting this week, I will try and test my 17hmr at the 200 to 250 distance on a coyote. With the backup of my freind using my .204.
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03-26-2009, 02:03 AM
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#155 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by TSALI | I will be hunting this week, I will try and test my 17hmr at the 200 to 250 distance on a coyote. With the backup of my freind using my .204. | GOOD LUCK! lol. you will need it i think. be sure that friend is ready to put in a kill shot IF you can hit a yote that far. not doubting your shooting skills, just the capability of a 17 hmr at that range.
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03-26-2009, 04:42 AM
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#156 | | Firearm Zealot
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My bet is you will never find where that .17HMR hits at 200yds and beyond. sam.
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03-26-2009, 10:37 AM
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#157 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: boise, id
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I agree. Got nothing to do today, think I will go to the range with a coyote target guled to a piece of 3/4" plywood. Check things out, I wonder if will even penetrate? Probably a crazy question and waste of time, have any of you heard of people loading 17hmr rounds? I'm getting set up for my .204, .270, 30-06, 40 S&W.
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03-26-2009, 11:02 AM
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#158 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: boise, id
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I have 3 17hmr, what are you using on your 17hmr for scopes?
I'm using,
Nikon Pro staff 3x9x40 h-barrel
Leupold Rifleman 3x9x40 h-barrel
Cabelas Pineridge/Rim 3x9x40 reg barrel
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03-26-2009, 03:56 PM
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#159 | | Firearm Aficionado
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Attica, Ohio
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you guys are underestimating the 17hmr. no you most likely wont be able to down a yote cleanly at 200-250yds but a yote inside the 100yd range is in for some trouble
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03-26-2009, 08:33 PM
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#160 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Central Illinois... Middle of Nowhere
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If you use a .17 past 75 yards on coyote chances are it will make the animal suffer a bad death. Stick with the larger caliber on coyotes period. No matter the distance arent we just kicking a dead horse on shooting coyotes with a target rifle... sure you could do it, but you could also do a tune up on your car with wooden tools... use the right equipment for the job especially when it comes to taking a living animals life.
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