varmint hunting

nc.hunter · 10-29-2007, 04:29 PM

Hi, everone, i am new to gun and game so im just trying everything out, I live in forsyth county of north carolina, I am only in 8th. grade but i really want to start coyote hunting, so does anyone know if an H&R "ultra varmint" .223 is a good coyote hunting gun. Also if anyone has any news about sightings of coyotes in my area please post,thanks.

hello

Oz n Bolivia · 10-29-2007, 08:47 PM

Welcome to the forum. Single shot will make you want to place that only shot in the correct place. The .223 will do nicely for any varmint. I started hunting at 10 going on 11. Keep your mind on the safety rules. Check out a web site www.varmintal.com/ahunt.htm[/url] This man has a lot of real good information on coyotes.
Oz

lefty o · 10-29-2007, 09:38 PM

that rifle is a good entry level varmint gun.

Oz n Bolivia · 11-05-2007, 06:36 PM

That question will get a lot of different answers.

Where are you hunting? What varmints are you hunting.

Close to residential areas 22 RF or its mag bigger brother. Any of the 22 hornets or the 218 bee are good and quiet (relatively) with ranges to 125 to 150 plus yards.

Marmonts in the mountians at longer range start with a 222 Rem. or even a .223. These work well on larger vermints like coyotes, wild dogs etc.

Ground squirrels and PD depending on the range. use any of the above.

Now, all that said there are a large number of calibers from .17 through .25, that can make an entry level caliber. Years ago the 25-20 was the king of the varmint calibers. It still is good out to 100 yards. Finding a good gun and scope is more important than the caliber. The big problem is that it is hard to find rifles in all the wide varity of cartridges. You have a choice of .223, 22-250 in centerfire with most current USA production rifles.

Oz

samuel · 11-05-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lefty o

that rifle is a good entry level varmint gun.

I agree except I am an old time varmint hunter and still use an H&R quite a bit. sam.

killer · 11-05-2007, 07:34 PM

Yes on the H&R Ultra Varmint 223. Don't know for certain in your area about old yellow tooth but they generally do live everywhere.

Jager · 11-05-2007, 09:11 PM

Go with the .223 in one of the very fine AR-15 rifles. Pricey, way better then the ruger ranch rifle. As for one accurate shot, this is true on the other hand one shot wont kill mutiple coyotes. To boot, you can shoot .223 forever without ever going broke.

billy · 11-05-2007, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

Go with the .223 in one of the very fine AR-15 rifles. Pricey, way better then the ruger ranch rifle. As for one accurate shot, this is true on the other hand one shot wont kill mutiple coyotes. To boot, you can shoot .223 forever without ever going broke.

this guy is in the 8th grade!
i somehow doubt he is going to buy an AR that many adults cant afford!
cmon here......

Midas · 11-05-2007, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

this guy is in the 8th grade!
i somehow doubt he is going to buy an AR that many adults cant afford!
cmon here......

Maybe his pappy is one of those rich folk

.22guy · 11-05-2007, 10:46 PM

I'm going to recommend a Savage (or Stevens) bolt action. Would give more shots for multiple animals. I feel like this would serve him well for a longer time because he'll start wishing he had a faster follow up shot and have to buy another rifle. Let us know what you pick. ps go with .223

Oz n Bolivia · 11-07-2007, 05:51 PM

Stevens 200 in a 223 for under 350 dollars. The action is the older Savage actions but still very accurate. Good choice for a first varmint rifle. Spend about half that cost on a good scope and you have a coyote dropper if the bullet placement is good.
Oz

10-29-2007, 04:29 PM	#1
nc.hunter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Forsyth county of north carolina Posts: 192	varmint hunting Hi, everone, i am new to gun and game so im just trying everything out, I live in forsyth county of north carolina, I am only in 8th. grade but i really want to start coyote hunting, so does anyone know if an H&R "ultra varmint" .223 is a good coyote hunting gun. Also if anyone has any news about sightings of coyotes in my area please post,thanks. hello Last edited by nc.hunter; 10-29-2007 at 04:53 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

10-29-2007, 08:47 PM	#2
Oz n Bolivia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: La Paz, Bolivia Posts: 109	Welcome to the forum. Single shot will make you want to place that only shot in the correct place. The .223 will do nicely for any varmint. I started hunting at 10 going on 11. Keep your mind on the safety rules. Check out a web site www.varmintal.com/ahunt.htm[/url] This man has a lot of real good information on coyotes. Oz __________________ Education gives us a data base of knowledge, what and how we use that data base is wisdom.

11-05-2007, 06:36 PM	#4
Oz n Bolivia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: La Paz, Bolivia Posts: 109	That question will get a lot of different answers. Where are you hunting? What varmints are you hunting. Close to residential areas 22 RF or its mag bigger brother. Any of the 22 hornets or the 218 bee are good and quiet (relatively) with ranges to 125 to 150 plus yards. Marmonts in the mountians at longer range start with a 222 Rem. or even a .223. These work well on larger vermints like coyotes, wild dogs etc. Ground squirrels and PD depending on the range. use any of the above. Now, all that said there are a large number of calibers from .17 through .25, that can make an entry level caliber. Years ago the 25-20 was the king of the varmint calibers. It still is good out to 100 yards. Finding a good gun and scope is more important than the caliber. The big problem is that it is hard to find rifles in all the wide varity of cartridges. You have a choice of .223, 22-250 in centerfire with most current USA production rifles. Oz __________________ Education gives us a data base of knowledge, what and how we use that data base is wisdom.

11-05-2007, 07:34 PM	#6
killer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the rat race Posts: 895	Yes on the H&R Ultra Varmint 223. Don't know for certain in your area about old yellow tooth but they generally do live everywhere. __________________ "Yeee Hawww...I'm a cowboy on an iron horse." Killer's cabin: http://buckmountainchateau.com/

11-05-2007, 10:46 PM	#10
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,829	I'm going to recommend a Savage (or Stevens) bolt action. Would give more shots for multiple animals. I feel like this would serve him well for a longer time because he'll start wishing he had a faster follow up shot and have to buy another rifle. Let us know what you pick. ps go with .223 __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

10-29-2007, 09:38 PM	#3
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,546	that rifle is a good entry level varmint gun.

11-05-2007, 09:11 PM	#7
Jager Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 26	Go with the .223 in one of the very fine AR-15 rifles. Pricey, way better then the ruger ranch rifle. As for one accurate shot, this is true on the other hand one shot wont kill mutiple coyotes. To boot, you can shoot .223 forever without ever going broke.

11-07-2007, 05:51 PM	#11
Oz n Bolivia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: La Paz, Bolivia Posts: 109	Stevens 200 in a 223 for under 350 dollars. The action is the older Savage actions but still very accurate. Good choice for a first varmint rifle. Spend about half that cost on a good scope and you have a coyote dropper if the bullet placement is good. Oz __________________ Education gives us a data base of knowledge, what and how we use that data base is wisdom.

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