Shoots at coyote,gets cow

samuel · 11-23-2007, 06:36 AM

You think we dont have good hunters in michigan,I just heard on the news where a coyote hunter shot a cow,mistaking it for a coyote.The cow was a holstein weighing 1400lbs.I dont know how to post news stories but maybe someone else does.The story was posted by Associated Press and was in the Kalamazoo Gazette.This type of so called hunter is out there,I just hope I dont run into them. sam.

billy · 11-23-2007, 06:49 AM

Man shoots coyote. Coyote turns out to be cow. Man sad.

COLFAX TOWNSHIP — A man says he shot a neighbor’s cow after mistaking it for a coyote. Authorities and the owner are skeptical.

The undersheriff in northern Michigan’s Benzie County says he doesn’t see how anyone could confuse a 1,400-pound pregnant cow with a coyote, which typically weighs between 20 and 45 pounds.

And anyway, shooting coyotes is illegal during firearm deer season. Authorities asked the county prosecutor to bring charges against the shooter.

A 42-year-old man told authorities he was out to shoot coyotes near his Colfax Township home Saturday when he killed the cow, Undersheriff Rory Heckman told the Traverse City Record-Eagle for a story published Wednesday. Heckman said the man then tried to drag the cow home.

“The part of his story he his holding to is he shot at a coyote. I don’t know how he hit a several-thousand pound cow mistaking it for a coyote,” Heckman said.

The cow was named Hannah and had wandered away from its farm, about 205 miles northwest of Detroit.

“My husband thought that he should go through some therapy looking at repeated pictures of cows and coyotes because they look nothing alike. It didn’t make any sense to me,” said owner DeAnn Mosher.

gunney_m · 11-23-2007, 07:40 AM

Wetawded!!!

samuel · 11-23-2007, 09:36 AM

Thanks Billy. sam.

Dale · 11-23-2007, 10:38 AM

"Authorities and the owner are skeptical." I GUESS!!!!

Growing up in Northeast Pennsylvania I remember a time when Carl Johnson, the, then, Sheriff of Susquehanna County stopped a vehicle with an animal tied over the back.

Sheriff Johnson asked the driver for his drivers license to find that he was out of a large city in New York state (a mere 17 miles away).

Sheriff Johnson asked him about the animal tied on his trunk and the driver, with smiles from ear to ear, genuinely remarked about how nice a doe he had shot.

It was a mule.

Some idjets are only ankle deap in the human gene pool!

lefty o · 11-23-2007, 10:47 AM

theres just no excuse for this kind of stupidity. i hope they make him pay for the cow, her calves, and the milk she'd produce.

rckymtnboy · 11-23-2007, 12:14 PM

I especially like the part where he tries to drag the cow home. LOL. He's nothing less than a cattle rustler in my book.

I get a kick out of talking to the F&G at the game check, they usually have some good stories of the out-of-staters (mostly) bringing their animals in to game check. One guy said he had an elk, and it was a moose. Another guy said he had an elk, and it was a mule, he gutted it and everything.

And this was the best...a guy came up from California to hunt and obviously had no experience at all. He didn't know the area, and didn't have anybody that did know the area with him. To make a long story short, he crested over a ridge and glassed a huge herd that had a lot of bulls in it standing out in a field. This field was surrounded by homes and a gas station...and an 8' fence. On that fence were signs all over the place that said "No Hunting". Well, anyway, he picked out the biggest bull he could find and shot it. He then proceeded to climb the 8' fence that was posted "No Hunting", and began to gut the elk. A few moments later a guy walked up behind him and said, "That's a nice elk ya got there." How would you like to pay for it, Cash, Check, or Visa?" It was a well-known elk farm that's been here for over 30 years.

troy2000 · 11-23-2007, 01:02 PM

That "dragging-it-home" bit makes me suspect he was hunting steaks-on-the-hoof, and you don't get many off a coyote.

Then again, maybe I'm just getting cynical in my old age...

SilentSoul · 11-23-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rckymtnboy

I especially like the part where he tries to drag the cow home. LOL. He's nothing less than a cattle rustler in my book.

I get a kick out of talking to the F&G at the game check, they usually have some good stories of the out-of-staters (mostly) bringing their animals in to game check. One guy said he had an elk, and it was a moose. Another guy said he had an elk, and it was a mule, he gutted it and everything.

And this was the best...a guy came up from California to hunt and obviously had no experience at all. He didn't know the area, and didn't have anybody that did know the area with him. To make a long story short, he crested over a ridge and glassed a huge herd that had a lot of bulls in it standing out in a field. This field was surrounded by homes and a gas station...and an 8' fence. On that fence were signs all over the place that said "No Hunting". Well, anyway, he picked out the biggest bull he could find and shot it. He then proceeded to climb the 8' fence that was posted "No Hunting", and began to gut the elk. A few moments later a guy walked up behind him and said, "That's a nice elk ya got there." How would you like to pay for it, Cash, Check, or Visa?" It was a well-known elk farm that's been here for over 30 years.

Now that is funny. If the guy actually said that, Priceless.

YPBilly · 12-07-2007, 04:01 PM

I wonder if he figure out it was a cow AFTER he was dragging it? (This coyote I'm draggin' is HUGE!)

forestgleaner · 12-09-2007, 11:23 AM

It is all fun and games, till the anti's use it as a reason to ban hunting. The man was not a hunter, and as one I just have to ask, aren't we all responsible for makeing sure of our targets? It should be hunters makeing the biggest stink, about "accidents". If someone shoots a cow, they shouldn't have been out there in the first place.

frozentorso · 12-11-2007, 01:11 AM

Every rancher that has let me hunt has always been skiddish when I hunt were their cattle are grazing. And for good reason. One guy I took(a pretty good varmint hunter) was in the back of the truck spotlighting as we drove across a giant pasture. He spotted something and tapped the roof for me to stop. He was sure it was a hog at about 100 yards. I told him to hold fire untill I could get out and put the Brinkman on him. As I climbed out I heard a click from my mini-30 that he was using. Miss-fire! When I lit it up, it was a black calf. I still have that majic bullet and he never went with me again. BTW, yotes dont stick around stationary staring at you while you light them up for 30 seconds. Cows do.

toolman · 12-11-2007, 02:37 AM

One of my first experiences spotlighting had me riding in the back of the truck with a friend of mine looking for 'coons. We pulled alongside a wheat field and saw eyes all along the back fence-row and several nice racks as well. My friend Eddie leaned over the top of the truck and dropped the deer in his tracks. We parked and ran across the field to gut the nicest HEREFORD CALF you've ever seen. We all knew the game warden and the property owner so we called both and ended up paying the owner $500 for the calf in return for the game warden not hauling us in. I learned that you never pull the trigger unless you're absolutely positive about your target!

samuel · 12-11-2007, 05:42 AM

Toolman: The worst of that story of shooting at eyes is it could be human.I was in Wyoming when that is just what happened.A conservation officer was mistaken for a deer these poachers wanted.They faced murder charges.I dont care for poachers,especially night poachers.I like people that shoot at things they cant identify even less.It might be me or someone I care for out there.(I care for anyone out there)In shining coyotes I could have shot several pet dogs,I never have.I even had one that I was lined up on trying to identify come on in and stayed with me for the rest of the time I was there.Friendly mutt. sam.

Dookiebutt · 12-11-2007, 07:24 AM

I was at a deer check station (feed mill) about 20 years ago. Guy (not from around there) pulls in to check his deer. It was a goat. He didn't have a clue.

Shootester · 12-11-2007, 11:45 PM

Some ppl! How could someone mistake a goat for a deer? But than again I'm in PA so I see deer when I'm just driving down the street.

Zen900 · 12-12-2007, 12:27 AM

I was camping in the Great Smoky Nat Park near a field with a bright moon out. I froze in terror as a big black bear walked slowly about 75 ft from me out in the field. I thought I was a goner. Turned out to be a black bull. I went phew!!!!!!! That was close before I realized the bull could kill me too. Geez!!!!!!!!!!!
Went back to my campsite after the bull left and later that night a bear came in my camp. I thought it was the bull. It was an awful night. Primal fear of being eaten alive or trampled was not my thing.

Never did get to sleep and I have never camped in the Smokie Nat Park since.

BTW, their are people in prisons all over America who shot at targets they mistook for an animal when it was a human.

frozentorso · 12-12-2007, 12:43 AM

Please, Toolman, tell me you were spotlighting deer with Eddie when you were very young and didnt know how bad jail food is! Or maybe you were in Mexico?

rdale501 · 12-12-2007, 09:30 PM

I heard a story one time and I don't know it it is true, but I think it is. Two guys from Los Angles were hunting anterless mule deer in Arizona. They had to check in at the California border inspection station upon their return. They had shot a desert buro and tagged it for a mule deer doe.

Bravo · 12-12-2007, 09:45 PM

In Maine, you hear of Horse being shot instead of Moose all the time. Horse look like Moose more than Cows to Coyote, but it still proves that people can be really really dumb.

11-23-2007, 06:36 AM	#1
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,237	Shoots at coyote,gets cow You think we dont have good hunters in michigan,I just heard on the news where a coyote hunter shot a cow,mistaking it for a coyote.The cow was a holstein weighing 1400lbs.I dont know how to post news stories but maybe someone else does.The story was posted by Associated Press and was in the Kalamazoo Gazette.This type of so called hunter is out there,I just hope I dont run into them. sam.

11-23-2007, 06:49 AM	#2
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,347 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	Man shoots coyote. Coyote turns out to be cow. Man sad. COLFAX TOWNSHIP — A man says he shot a neighbor’s cow after mistaking it for a coyote. Authorities and the owner are skeptical. The undersheriff in northern Michigan’s Benzie County says he doesn’t see how anyone could confuse a 1,400-pound pregnant cow with a coyote, which typically weighs between 20 and 45 pounds. And anyway, shooting coyotes is illegal during firearm deer season. Authorities asked the county prosecutor to bring charges against the shooter. A 42-year-old man told authorities he was out to shoot coyotes near his Colfax Township home Saturday when he killed the cow, Undersheriff Rory Heckman told the Traverse City Record-Eagle for a story published Wednesday. Heckman said the man then tried to drag the cow home. “The part of his story he his holding to is he shot at a coyote. I don’t know how he hit a several-thousand pound cow mistaking it for a coyote,” Heckman said. The cow was named Hannah and had wandered away from its farm, about 205 miles northwest of Detroit. “My husband thought that he should go through some therapy looking at repeated pictures of cows and coyotes because they look nothing alike. It didn’t make any sense to me,” said owner DeAnn Mosher. __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell Last edited by billy; 11-23-2007 at 06:49 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

11-23-2007, 10:38 AM	#5
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	"Authorities and the owner are skeptical." I GUESS!!!! Growing up in Northeast Pennsylvania I remember a time when Carl Johnson, the, then, Sheriff of Susquehanna County stopped a vehicle with an animal tied over the back. Sheriff Johnson asked the driver for his drivers license to find that he was out of a large city in New York state (a mere 17 miles away). Sheriff Johnson asked him about the animal tied on his trunk and the driver, with smiles from ear to ear, genuinely remarked about how nice a doe he had shot. It was a mule. Some idjets are only ankle deap in the human gene pool! __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

11-23-2007, 12:14 PM	#7
rckymtnboy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I am a dual resident. Posts: 340 Images: 20	I especially like the part where he tries to drag the cow home. LOL. He's nothing less than a cattle rustler in my book. I get a kick out of talking to the F&G at the game check, they usually have some good stories of the out-of-staters (mostly) bringing their animals in to game check. One guy said he had an elk, and it was a moose. Another guy said he had an elk, and it was a mule, he gutted it and everything. And this was the best...a guy came up from California to hunt and obviously had no experience at all. He didn't know the area, and didn't have anybody that did know the area with him. To make a long story short, he crested over a ridge and glassed a huge herd that had a lot of bulls in it standing out in a field. This field was surrounded by homes and a gas station...and an 8' fence. On that fence were signs all over the place that said "No Hunting". Well, anyway, he picked out the biggest bull he could find and shot it. He then proceeded to climb the 8' fence that was posted "No Hunting", and began to gut the elk. A few moments later a guy walked up behind him and said, "That's a nice elk ya got there." How would you like to pay for it, Cash, Check, or Visa?" It was a well-known elk farm that's been here for over 30 years. __________________ When they come for my guns, I'll give 'em the bullets first!

11-23-2007, 01:02 PM	#8
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,026 Images: 9	That "dragging-it-home" bit makes me suspect he was hunting steaks-on-the-hoof, and you don't get many off a coyote. Then again, maybe I'm just getting cynical in my old age... __________________ I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said. WF Buckley, Jr

11-23-2007, 07:40 AM	#3
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931	Wetawded!!!

11-23-2007, 09:36 AM	#4
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,237	Thanks Billy. sam.

11-23-2007, 10:47 AM	#6
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 5,110	theres just no excuse for this kind of stupidity. i hope they make him pay for the cow, her calves, and the milk she'd produce.

12-07-2007, 04:01 PM	#10
YPBilly Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Almost Heaven, West Virginia Posts: 16	I wonder if he figure out it was a cow AFTER he was dragging it? (This coyote I'm draggin' is HUGE!)

12-09-2007, 11:23 AM	#11
forestgleaner Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 182	It is all fun and games, till the anti's use it as a reason to ban hunting. The man was not a hunter, and as one I just have to ask, aren't we all responsible for makeing sure of our targets? It should be hunters makeing the biggest stink, about "accidents". If someone shoots a cow, they shouldn't have been out there in the first place.

12-11-2007, 01:11 AM	#12
frozentorso Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North East Texas Posts: 593	Every rancher that has let me hunt has always been skiddish when I hunt were their cattle are grazing. And for good reason. One guy I took(a pretty good varmint hunter) was in the back of the truck spotlighting as we drove across a giant pasture. He spotted something and tapped the roof for me to stop. He was sure it was a hog at about 100 yards. I told him to hold fire untill I could get out and put the Brinkman on him. As I climbed out I heard a click from my mini-30 that he was using. Miss-fire! When I lit it up, it was a black calf. I still have that majic bullet and he never went with me again. BTW, yotes dont stick around stationary staring at you while you light them up for 30 seconds. Cows do. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry. Thats just my game!"

12-11-2007, 02:37 AM	#13
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,864 Blog Entries: 24	One of my first experiences spotlighting had me riding in the back of the truck with a friend of mine looking for 'coons. We pulled alongside a wheat field and saw eyes all along the back fence-row and several nice racks as well. My friend Eddie leaned over the top of the truck and dropped the deer in his tracks. We parked and ran across the field to gut the nicest HEREFORD CALF you've ever seen. We all knew the game warden and the property owner so we called both and ended up paying the owner $500 for the calf in return for the game warden not hauling us in. I learned that you never pull the trigger unless you're absolutely positive about your target! __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

12-11-2007, 05:42 AM	#14
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,237	Toolman: The worst of that story of shooting at eyes is it could be human.I was in Wyoming when that is just what happened.A conservation officer was mistaken for a deer these poachers wanted.They faced murder charges.I dont care for poachers,especially night poachers.I like people that shoot at things they cant identify even less.It might be me or someone I care for out there.(I care for anyone out there)In shining coyotes I could have shot several pet dogs,I never have.I even had one that I was lined up on trying to identify come on in and stayed with me for the rest of the time I was there.Friendly mutt. sam.

12-11-2007, 07:24 AM	#15
Dookiebutt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: America's North Coast Posts: 1,304	I was at a deer check station (feed mill) about 20 years ago. Guy (not from around there) pulls in to check his deer. It was a goat. He didn't have a clue.

12-11-2007, 11:45 PM	#16
Shootester Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 218	Some ppl! How could someone mistake a goat for a deer? But than again I'm in PA so I see deer when I'm just driving down the street.

12-12-2007, 12:27 AM	#17
Zen900 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 721	I was camping in the Great Smoky Nat Park near a field with a bright moon out. I froze in terror as a big black bear walked slowly about 75 ft from me out in the field. I thought I was a goner. Turned out to be a black bull. I went phew!!!!!!! That was close before I realized the bull could kill me too. Geez!!!!!!!!!!! Went back to my campsite after the bull left and later that night a bear came in my camp. I thought it was the bull. It was an awful night. Primal fear of being eaten alive or trampled was not my thing. Never did get to sleep and I have never camped in the Smokie Nat Park since. BTW, their are people in prisons all over America who shot at targets they mistook for an animal when it was a human. Last edited by Zen900; 12-12-2007 at 12:30 AM.

12-12-2007, 12:43 AM	#18
frozentorso Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North East Texas Posts: 593	Please, Toolman, tell me you were spotlighting deer with Eddie when you were very young and didnt know how bad jail food is! Or maybe you were in Mexico? __________________ "I'm your huckleberry. Thats just my game!"

12-12-2007, 09:30 PM	#19
rdale501 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 420	I heard a story one time and I don't know it it is true, but I think it is. Two guys from Los Angles were hunting anterless mule deer in Arizona. They had to check in at the California border inspection station upon their return. They had shot a desert buro and tagged it for a mule deer doe.

12-12-2007, 09:45 PM	#20
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 2,022	In Maine, you hear of Horse being shot instead of Moose all the time. Horse look like Moose more than Cows to Coyote, but it still proves that people can be really really dumb.