Good gun for ground hogs in the open?

jaeger · 05-02-2008, 04:59 PM

On my father in laws property here in soviet NJ he is having quite a problem with ground hogs. The problem is that you can only get about 150 yds from them and the spook into their holes. Now we cannot use any kind of rifle. and muzzle loaders are limited to .36 and below. I have lobbed .20 ga slugs with very little success. Is there any thing you guys can think of besides "anti-freeze" on corn that can help me get rid of them.

stitchclimber · 05-02-2008, 05:02 PM

that's a tough one. If you can get with 100 yards I'm sure the slug would do the trick. Have you looked into any traps?

reverend ron · 05-02-2008, 05:04 PM

DY NO MITE LOL reason no 437 not to live in the peoples republic of N.J. ( my kids live in N.J. their not smart enough to move either )

jaeger · 05-02-2008, 05:04 PM

The problem with traps here in NJ is that if on private property, the local game commission has to be notified every time an animal is trapped and disposed of. It is really a pain in the butt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverend ron

DY NO MITE LOL reason no 437 not to live in the peoples republic of N.J. ( my kids live in N.J. their not smart enough to move either )

Trust me as soon as I can I am moving to Ky. Waiting on transfer.

andrew cochran · 05-02-2008, 05:13 PM

Well I guess you have a problem. Can you have a rifled slug gun? If so you might do ok with sabot slugs. If you have to buy a .36 caliber muzzleloader and try to hit him I dobt you'll have sucess but you can try.

Asphalt Cowboy · 05-02-2008, 05:42 PM

Might try one of these.
How to Kill Moles
If it weren't for the latterals on my septic system I'd have one already.

7mmremmag1995 · 05-02-2008, 06:45 PM

go Rambo style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

samuel · 05-02-2008, 08:35 PM

I use mostly centerfire rifles for groundhogs,and set the firearm up and load the ammo with almost as much precision as if I were shooting competition.But I have used enough rimfires to know they can be very effective on varmints at 150yds and under,especially the .22wmr.The one big problem is riccochets,as the rimfire bullets dont seem to blow up like varmint bullets in centerfires. sam.

sell33 · 05-02-2008, 09:07 PM

You can't use any kind of rifle?? not even rimfire?? if you can use rimfire i would go 22wmr or 17hmr, otherwise i would say you need to practice the army crawl! lol

tippmann7 · 05-03-2008, 06:13 PM

well if you cant use rifles i sugest finding out its daily cycle and then sit out by its hole (hidden so he cant see you) and light it up when he comes out

nathangdad · 05-03-2008, 07:27 PM

find what an animal likes to eat and make a trail leading to your position.

Sooner Shooter · 05-03-2008, 11:49 PM

Is there not some kind of poison that will work on those things? I know the rat poison used on rats these days is actually not poison but a blood thinner similar to what people take. A ground hog is many times bigger than a rat but you'd think some farm store would have something like that for the bigger rodents.

samuel · 05-04-2008, 04:13 AM

I hate the thought of poisons.If you cant shoot or trap them,buy folding chairs and set them up and charge admission to watch them.I am sure you will get plenty of animal rights activist,s. sam.

tamalpias · 05-04-2008, 04:39 AM

are you allowed to use rimfire rifles? like a 22lr? I don't see why a 22 lr can't hit them at 150 yards when my 22lr can make inch and a half groups at 100 yards. I would think most decent rimfires can still hit a ground hog size animal at 150 yards.

338RemUltraMag · 05-04-2008, 10:36 AM

yeah but the problem is at 150 the energy isn't there for a hog and you don't want to hit "a ground hog size target" he wants to hit a orange size target use potassium cyanide and mix it with something it will eat

jaeger · 05-06-2008, 08:49 PM

no we cannot use rim-fires. I wish we could but it's shotgun only here. I did tag one at 175yds with my 20ga slug yesterday, but it was more like artillery then a precision shot. I guess I will just keep lobbing lead and hoping for the best. I did make a nice pink mist on impact.

JohnBlaze · 05-06-2008, 09:28 PM

wow that sucks! I'd say go with traps. After all, it is YOUR property, right? What the local game commision doesn't know won't hurt them.

TXplt · 05-06-2008, 09:52 PM

Wow--that doesn't make sense; slugs OK but .22 rimfire's not.

Stingers worked pretty well inside of 100 yds when I was younger in PA.

Maybe .410 bore rifled slugs ? -- They're fun to shoot out of the Judge, but probably wouldn't work in your situation.

Good luck.

jaeger · 05-06-2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBlaze

wow that sucks! I'd say go with traps. After all, it is YOUR property, right? What the local game commision doesn't know won't hurt them.

Very true, however I am a federal law enforcement officer and even the slightest ticket/charge on my record and I will be working at Wal-mart or target.

jv101 · 05-06-2008, 10:47 PM

get a scoped pistol! or just dumb a crapload of drugs/pills down the hole!

05-02-2008, 04:59 PM	#1
jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 232 Images: 3	Good gun for ground hogs in the open? On my father in laws property here in soviet NJ he is having quite a problem with ground hogs. The problem is that you can only get about 150 yds from them and the spook into their holes. Now we cannot use any kind of rifle. and muzzle loaders are limited to .36 and below. I have lobbed .20 ga slugs with very little success. Is there any thing you guys can think of besides "anti-freeze" on corn that can help me get rid of them.

05-02-2008, 05:02 PM	#2
stitchclimber Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The great northwest Posts: 565	that's a tough one. If you can get with 100 yards I'm sure the slug would do the trick. Have you looked into any traps? __________________ turning up the radio, got just enough religion and a half tank of gas...

05-02-2008, 05:13 PM	#5
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,054	Well I guess you have a problem. Can you have a rifled slug gun? If so you might do ok with sabot slugs. If you have to buy a .36 caliber muzzleloader and try to hit him I dobt you'll have sucess but you can try. __________________ Just an old hillbilly, who can still shoot the eye off a flea!

05-02-2008, 05:42 PM	#6
Asphalt Cowboy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: A one horse town in E.Kansas. Posts: 108	Might try one of these. How to Kill Moles If it weren't for the latterals on my septic system I'd have one already. __________________ Yes, I Ride A Motorcycle. I Have To, It's Cheaper Than A Shrink.

05-02-2008, 06:45 PM	#7
7mmremmag1995 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,056 Images: 1 Blog Entries: 1	go Rambo style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ pain is just weakness leaving the body

05-02-2008, 05:04 PM	#3
reverend ron Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: pa.where I can still own any firearm I choose. Posts: 33	DY NO MITE LOL reason no 437 not to live in the peoples republic of N.J. ( my kids live in N.J. their not smart enough to move either )

05-02-2008, 08:35 PM	#8
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,495	I use mostly centerfire rifles for groundhogs,and set the firearm up and load the ammo with almost as much precision as if I were shooting competition.But I have used enough rimfires to know they can be very effective on varmints at 150yds and under,especially the .22wmr.The one big problem is riccochets,as the rimfire bullets dont seem to blow up like varmint bullets in centerfires. sam.

05-02-2008, 09:07 PM	#9
sell33 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 710	You can't use any kind of rifle?? not even rimfire?? if you can use rimfire i would go 22wmr or 17hmr, otherwise i would say you need to practice the army crawl! lol

05-03-2008, 06:13 PM	#10
tippmann7 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Attica, Ohio Posts: 123	well if you cant use rifles i sugest finding out its daily cycle and then sit out by its hole (hidden so he cant see you) and light it up when he comes out __________________ some say the best gun is the one you never fire..i prefer the one you only have to fire once.

05-03-2008, 07:27 PM	#11
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,168	one sure way is find what an animal likes to eat and make a trail leading to your position.

05-03-2008, 11:49 PM	#12
Sooner Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 252	Is there not some kind of poison that will work on those things? I know the rat poison used on rats these days is actually not poison but a blood thinner similar to what people take. A ground hog is many times bigger than a rat but you'd think some farm store would have something like that for the bigger rodents. __________________ Save the drama for your mama!

05-04-2008, 04:13 AM	#13
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,495	I hate the thought of poisons.If you cant shoot or trap them,buy folding chairs and set them up and charge admission to watch them.I am sure you will get plenty of animal rights activist,s. sam.

05-04-2008, 04:39 AM	#14
tamalpias Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29	are you allowed to use rimfire rifles? like a 22lr? I don't see why a 22 lr can't hit them at 150 yards when my 22lr can make inch and a half groups at 100 yards. I would think most decent rimfires can still hit a ground hog size animal at 150 yards.

05-04-2008, 10:36 AM	#15
338RemUltraMag Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cumberland, MD USA Posts: 199	yeah but the problem is at 150 the energy isn't there for a hog and you don't want to hit "a ground hog size target" he wants to hit a orange size target use potassium cyanide and mix it with something it will eat

05-06-2008, 08:49 PM	#16
jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 232 Images: 3	no we cannot use rim-fires. I wish we could but it's shotgun only here. I did tag one at 175yds with my 20ga slug yesterday, but it was more like artillery then a precision shot. I guess I will just keep lobbing lead and hoping for the best. I did make a nice pink mist on impact.

05-06-2008, 09:28 PM	#17
JohnBlaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 118	wow that sucks! I'd say go with traps. After all, it is YOUR property, right? What the local game commision doesn't know won't hurt them. __________________ Guns don't kill people. Husbands who came home early from work do. "I'm your Huckleberry" Last edited by JohnBlaze; 05-06-2008 at 09:30 PM.

05-06-2008, 09:52 PM	#18
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,169 Images: 4	Wow--that doesn't make sense; slugs OK but .22 rimfire's not. Stingers worked pretty well inside of 100 yds when I was younger in PA. Maybe .410 bore rifled slugs ? -- They're fun to shoot out of the Judge, but probably wouldn't work in your situation. Good luck. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

05-06-2008, 10:47 PM	#20
jv101 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 74	get a scoped pistol! or just dumb a crapload of drugs/pills down the hole!

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode