the digital Army Uniform

Dakota_kid · 12-09-2005, 04:02 PM

Im just curious what you guys think of the new Army digital uniform?

I personally dont like it, just seems ugly

unlike the USMC Marpat camo....

maybe Im just biased

just wondering what you all think.

(I'll try to find a link to what it looks like if you havent seen it....)

jerry · 12-09-2005, 04:08 PM

Seen it up close the other day. Looked like pajamas, albeit not quite as bad as the proposed AF BDU (which I haven't heard from in a while) hopefully it's DEAD.

ash · 12-09-2005, 04:12 PM

It's not dead, it's still being tested. But it's another good reason I'm getting out in 47 days.

Copper · 12-09-2005, 08:00 PM

I think that they are much more comfortable that the old BDU's. No more having to starch your uniform is worth it to me, and the new collar is great! You don't have that darn top button digging a hole into your chest when you were body armour. I also like the set up of the pockets on the unform too. As far as the new Air Force BDU goes, it looks like a Smurf threw up on it. Those Zoomie's may have the best chow in the service, but those uniforms are awful.

ash · 12-09-2005, 08:14 PM

The chow sucks and so do the uniforms.

Copper · 12-09-2005, 09:09 PM

When I was at Balad air base in Iraq, it was awsome! You Air Force guys know how to party too!!!! Anytime we needed a "special item" from supply, you guys hooked us up.

AR-tim · 12-09-2005, 09:36 PM

I haven't seen it really up close or in person yet. I think it looks ok I guess (I will make an official call after I see it in person). I have some questions about it though.

Whats with the velcro for the patches? I think that it looks tacky and won't hold patchs on in the field. Also, I would think that would attract a bunch of lint/dirt (not a big deal in combat, but probably a pain in the arse at other times).

Are the pockets (and I guess the 'fly') zippered or velcro? I know its one of the two. What was wrong with (quiet) buttons?

Is there only one color pattern? I know the MarPat comes in a woodland and a desert. I have only seen desert (and I guess it could be urban too) colored ACUs. If thats the only color, good thing we are staying busy in the middle east.

Copper · 12-09-2005, 10:08 PM

There is supposed to be three different versions of it. Greenfor woodland, tan for desert, and grey for urban. So for the only one I've been issued is the grey one. Yes, all of the pockets are velcro, and all of the patches, name tapes and skill badges are velcro backed, but the top has a zipper reinforced with velcro for a flat surface while wearing armour. The pants also have a zipper fly. The old BDU's had a button fly, which was bad in jungle enviorment while wading waist deep across a creek. It allowed leechs to get in and feast on your "danglers".

ash · 12-09-2005, 10:18 PM

Velcro and zippers are way to noisy for combat situations.

inuyasha · 12-09-2005, 10:53 PM

good lord i hope they do get zipper crotch pants... button ones are annoying as !!!!. bdu's are basically all i wear anymore and i tell you what a good wind here makes you VERY aware that it is button. had to check a couple times to make sure it was in fact closed. zippers are teh w00t

Copper · 12-09-2005, 11:29 PM

Yes the new ACU's have zipper flys. Anyone who has worn BDU's in the winter time has gotten that nasty crossbreeze that seems to find its way in between the 4 buttons on the fly. In fact it was not uncommon to have to stick your finger in your butt and hollar "snake!!!" just to scare it out to make sure your little soldier was still there.

Dallas · 12-10-2005, 07:03 AM

militaryphoto.net has several threads on the new army uniform and the daily picture threads usually have some photos of the new uniform in Iraq/A-stan. It looks like it blends in well at a distance.

Big Dog · 12-10-2005, 08:35 AM

I'm not thrilled by the new camo at all. The article I saw recently showed troops wearing the new camo uniform with OD Green webgear and desert tan boots. They looked like third worlders wearing Uncle Sam's hand-me-downs.

I'll give 'em time to prove themselves in combat - but they suck as far as looks - very unprofessional.
One reason I went Navy - blue denim dungarees and blue chambray shirts always look good. As my old Senior Chief said, "The US Navy - 200 years of tradition unmarred by progress!" :cheer:

RodneyKSig · 12-11-2005, 02:07 AM

I personally think it is just a cheap attempt by the ARMY to copy a design popularized by the USMC, as well as I think the color scheme is just terrible for the woodland digicam, the desert is an improvement but still pails in comparison to the Marpat design.

Dallas · 12-11-2005, 08:44 AM

Rodney, the USMC camo pattern, MARPAT, is a copy of the canadian camo pattern CADPAT. THe Canadian military created the digital pattern. Both the Marines and Army use the pattern under license from the Canadian government.

Uncle Red · 12-11-2005, 12:23 PM

We're getting ideas from the Canadians on how to dress for combat?? Next you'll be telling me we're getting ideas from the French on how to fight a war!!

Editor's Note: No real disrespect ment to the Canadians.

-UR

Big Dog · 12-11-2005, 05:32 PM

At the range today, a young man showed up who was home on leave from the Marines. He was wearing his new Marpat for hunting, says it works well. I like it! Very sharp, not as baggy as the old BDUs, and looks like it would work very well in our green&brown winter forest.

The Army needs to adopt Marpat, instead of going their own way.

Copper · 12-13-2005, 03:33 PM

The MarPat is actually copyrighted by the Marine Corp. If you look real close at the MarPat pattern, there is the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor in it. This characteristic is unique to authentic MarPat BDU's.

Lonegun1894 · 01-03-2006, 10:14 PM

Big Dog,
The Army did request to use MARPAT and were told to forget it in less than polite terms. Our MARPAT uniforms have the EGA as has been mentioned and only USMC is allowed them.

12-09-2005, 04:02 PM	#1
Dakota_kid Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 63	the digital Army Uniform Im just curious what you guys think of the new Army digital uniform? I personally dont like it, just seems ugly unlike the USMC Marpat camo.... maybe Im just biased just wondering what you all think. (I'll try to find a link to what it looks like if you havent seen it....) __________________ The Second Amendment The Defender of the rest Guns dont kill peolpe, People kill people. "Sweat dries, blood clots, bones heal. Suck it up. Be a Marine."

12-09-2005, 04:08 PM	#2
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,640 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Seen it up close the other day. Looked like pajamas, albeit not quite as bad as the proposed AF BDU (which I haven't heard from in a while) hopefully it's DEAD. __________________

12-09-2005, 09:36 PM	#7
AR-tim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WI Posts: 307	I haven't seen it really up close or in person yet. I think it looks ok I guess (I will make an official call after I see it in person). I have some questions about it though. Whats with the velcro for the patches? I think that it looks tacky and won't hold patchs on in the field. Also, I would think that would attract a bunch of lint/dirt (not a big deal in combat, but probably a pain in the arse at other times). Are the pockets (and I guess the 'fly') zippered or velcro? I know its one of the two. What was wrong with (quiet) buttons? Is there only one color pattern? I know the MarPat comes in a woodland and a desert. I have only seen desert (and I guess it could be urban too) colored ACUs. If thats the only color, good thing we are staying busy in the middle east. __________________ "Unfortunately, the Army has revealed no plans to develop an air-droppable, laser-guided, self-chilling keg of beer!" From "Airborne" by Tom Clancy

12-10-2005, 08:35 AM	#13
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,465	I'm not thrilled by the new camo at all. The article I saw recently showed troops wearing the new camo uniform with OD Green webgear and desert tan boots. They looked like third worlders wearing Uncle Sam's hand-me-downs. I'll give 'em time to prove themselves in combat - but they suck as far as looks - very unprofessional. One reason I went Navy - blue denim dungarees and blue chambray shirts always look good. As my old Senior Chief said, "The US Navy - 200 years of tradition unmarred by progress!" :cheer: __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-11-2005, 02:07 AM	#14
RodneyKSig Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In the Great City of San Antonio in The Greatest State of Texas Posts: 41	I personally think it is just a cheap attempt by the ARMY to copy a design popularized by the USMC, as well as I think the color scheme is just terrible for the woodland digicam, the desert is an improvement but still pails in comparison to the Marpat design. __________________ If you want Peace, you must prepare for War." -The Punisher

12-09-2005, 04:12 PM	#3
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 921 Images: 3	It's not dead, it's still being tested. But it's another good reason I'm getting out in 47 days.

12-09-2005, 08:00 PM	#4
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	I think that they are much more comfortable that the old BDU's. No more having to starch your uniform is worth it to me, and the new collar is great! You don't have that darn top button digging a hole into your chest when you were body armour. I also like the set up of the pockets on the unform too. As far as the new Air Force BDU goes, it looks like a Smurf threw up on it. Those Zoomie's may have the best chow in the service, but those uniforms are awful.

12-09-2005, 08:14 PM	#5
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 921 Images: 3	The chow sucks and so do the uniforms.

12-09-2005, 09:09 PM	#6
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	When I was at Balad air base in Iraq, it was awsome! You Air Force guys know how to party too!!!! Anytime we needed a "special item" from supply, you guys hooked us up.

12-09-2005, 10:08 PM	#8
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	There is supposed to be three different versions of it. Greenfor woodland, tan for desert, and grey for urban. So for the only one I've been issued is the grey one. Yes, all of the pockets are velcro, and all of the patches, name tapes and skill badges are velcro backed, but the top has a zipper reinforced with velcro for a flat surface while wearing armour. The pants also have a zipper fly. The old BDU's had a button fly, which was bad in jungle enviorment while wading waist deep across a creek. It allowed leechs to get in and feast on your "danglers".

12-09-2005, 10:18 PM	#9
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 921 Images: 3	Velcro and zippers are way to noisy for combat situations.

12-09-2005, 10:53 PM	#10
inuyasha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: US occupied territories of "south dakota" Posts: 354	good lord i hope they do get zipper crotch pants... button ones are annoying as !!!!. bdu's are basically all i wear anymore and i tell you what a good wind here makes you VERY aware that it is button. had to check a couple times to make sure it was in fact closed. zippers are teh w00t

12-09-2005, 11:29 PM	#11
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	Yes the new ACU's have zipper flys. Anyone who has worn BDU's in the winter time has gotten that nasty crossbreeze that seems to find its way in between the 4 buttons on the fly. In fact it was not uncommon to have to stick your finger in your butt and hollar "snake!!!" just to scare it out to make sure your little soldier was still there.

12-10-2005, 07:03 AM	#12
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,581	militaryphoto.net has several threads on the new army uniform and the daily picture threads usually have some photos of the new uniform in Iraq/A-stan. It looks like it blends in well at a distance.

12-11-2005, 08:44 AM	#15
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,581	Rodney, the USMC camo pattern, MARPAT, is a copy of the canadian camo pattern CADPAT. THe Canadian military created the digital pattern. Both the Marines and Army use the pattern under license from the Canadian government.

12-11-2005, 12:23 PM	#16
Uncle Red Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 547	We're getting ideas from the Canadians on how to dress for combat?? Next you'll be telling me we're getting ideas from the French on how to fight a war!! Editor's Note: No real disrespect ment to the Canadians. -UR __________________ "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"--Amendment II, Bill of Rights "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."--Thomas Paine "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." - Jesus, Luke 22:36

12-11-2005, 05:32 PM	#17
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,465	At the range today, a young man showed up who was home on leave from the Marines. He was wearing his new Marpat for hunting, says it works well. I like it! Very sharp, not as baggy as the old BDUs, and looks like it would work very well in our green&brown winter forest. The Army needs to adopt Marpat, instead of going their own way. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-13-2005, 03:33 PM	#18
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	The MarPat is actually copyrighted by the Marine Corp. If you look real close at the MarPat pattern, there is the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor in it. This characteristic is unique to authentic MarPat BDU's.

01-03-2006, 10:14 PM	#19
Lonegun1894 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 206	Big Dog, The Army did request to use MARPAT and were told to forget it in less than polite terms. Our MARPAT uniforms have the EGA as has been mentioned and only USMC is allowed them.

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