does anyone remember Vietnam?

gregkilo · 02-20-2008, 11:51 AM

This is all so familiar its scary. My son has made several trips to the mid east region and had to push the politicians out of the way to bring some of our US citizens home.

nathangdad · 02-20-2008, 12:24 PM

Yes, some do remember Vietnam but in a practical
sense I doubt it has much place in the collective
American memory. If we could learn from history
we would not repeat poorly planned military
adventures designed to enrich military contractors.

samuel · 02-20-2008, 12:30 PM

I wont forget the way our country treated us for serving them. sam.

jd1911 · 02-20-2008, 03:19 PM

my dad was in that war taught me most everything i now i can never forget cause my dad was there does this make sense

sbowers5 · 02-20-2008, 03:42 PM

to whom it may concern, How could i possibly forget, i spent 36 months and 10 days in that god forsaken place with some of the bravest men i have ever known in my life. forget HELL NO NOT EVER!!!!! 68,69.---70,71 hal6 hc7
steve

big boomer · 02-20-2008, 03:52 PM

Yes I remember it well I was lucky enough to be stateside my 2 years living on next to nothing for pay (made under four thousand first year a little over 4- 2nd year wife made 120 a month and 4 people had to live on this and I was one of the lucky ones. The poor souls that went over there, were to do the impossible,win with everyone against you, the enemy,press,your own people,and even the gov. would screw things up. As a 2 yr draftee I salute the vets who gave their all and got no respect in return. The country owes these people a debt that can never be repaid.

just_a_car · 02-20-2008, 04:48 PM

I'm sure my father remembers it well...

He was stationed at Tan Son Nhut, AFB in Northern Saigon while serving in the USAF during the war.

Big Dog · 02-20-2008, 04:51 PM

I was in high school during the last years of the Vietnam War. But as a military buff and being interested in geography, I was probably the only kid who knew where that little country was.
I'll never forget it either.

two-70 · 02-20-2008, 06:17 PM

we cannot ever forget the toment and hell our soilders went thru over there and then to come home and be spit on and go thru it again back home

Windwalker · 02-20-2008, 06:54 PM

Our boys put themselves in harms way to do what our Country asked of them, many making the supreme sacrifice and many more being wounded then the Government politicians lost their guts and didn't have the stomach to do what was necessary to win so they quit and pulled our troops out. Many of the civilians at home were no better with their show of dishonor and disrespect to these Vets. A debt is owed them that can never be repaid. God bless the Vietnam Veterans and all our Veterans from all services.

rebel727 · 02-20-2008, 09:44 PM

I don't think anyone that grew up in that era will ever forget Nam. I came of age right after the draft was suspended but I spent several years thinking I was going to go. Seeing all those news reels showing young and I mean real young kids walking round with captured M-16's and AK's was more than enough to scare the chit out of me. The way vets I knew personally acted when they got home was worse tho.

bigbuddy21 · 02-20-2008, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebel727

I don't think anyone that grew up in that era will ever forget Nam. I came of age right after the draft was suspended but I spent several years thinking I was going to go. Seeing all those news reels showing young and I mean real young kids walking round with captured M-16's and AK's was more than enough to scare the chit out of me. The way vets I knew personally acted when they got home was worse tho.

REBEL, SIR I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. I TURNED 18 TWO MONTHS AFTER THE DRAFT WAS SUSP., I THOUGHT SURE I WAS GOING. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I WOULD HAVE WENT! I WOULD NOT HAVE DODGED [LIKE b.clinton] BUT YOU ARE RIGHT WE DO OWE THOSE SOLDIERS A DEBT OF GRATITUDE THAT CAN NEVER BE REPAID. ONE OF MY BROS. DID TWO TOURS OVER THERE AND TO THIS DAY HE STILL CAN NOT TALK ABOUT IT. HE ALSO WONT WATCH ANY MOVIES ABOUT VIETNAM.

billy · 02-20-2008, 10:07 PM

my relatives and friends that went wont talk about it.
and i dont ask.

mym1a · 02-20-2008, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbuddy21

REBEL, SIR I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. I TURNED 18 TWO MONTHS AFTER THE DRAFT WAS SUSP., I THOUGHT SURE I WAS GOING. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I WOULD HAVE WENT! I WOULD NOT HAVE DODGED [LIKE b.clinton] BUT YOU ARE RIGHT WE DO OWE THOSE SOLDIERS A DEBT OF GRATITUDE THAT CAN NEVER BE REPAID. ONE OF MY BROS. DID TWO TOURS OVER THERE AND TO THIS DAY HE STILL CAN NOT TALK ABOUT IT. HE ALSO WONT WATCH ANY MOVIES ABOUT VIETNAM.

you and I must be very close in age I just missed the draft and had good friends of mine who were a little older who did go.

bigbuddy21 · 02-20-2008, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mym1a

you and I must be very close in age I just missed the draft and had good friends of mine who were a little older who did go.

I'LL BE 51 IN JULY

mym1a · 02-20-2008, 11:41 PM

i'll be 54 in aug. if i'm not mistaken I believe they changed the draft age from 18 to 19 in 1972 and I believe the draft ended in 73? I could be wrong it has been almost 36 years ago? being that I graduated high school in the summer of 72 at age 17 i was only 2 months away from being eligible. all through our senior year a bunch us of thought we were heading there like our friends that were older then us.most of our fathers were either korean or wwII vets and the thought of us running to canada was to shameful to even think of and accepted our fate! lucky for us when we graduated they changed the age and then the following year they ended the draft. I recall my lottery number being no 2 at the time they changed the age to 19?? it's been a long time?????????I'm not even sure if drafties in 72 went to vietnam???????????

Falcon2 · 02-20-2008, 11:54 PM

Sam, you can thank the press, cnn, and the rest of the media for the way they wrote about our brave warriors, too bad that they managed to get out of going.Falcon2

Big Dog · 02-21-2008, 04:49 AM

I was eighteen in 1975, and since the war had ended in '73, the draft was over and the military was beginning to downsize. Still, registering was required. I tried, and the lady at the registration office told me to not bother - they didn't need anybody! So, I enlisted into the USAF! Figured I'd get my committment out of the way before the next shooting war.
Musta worked - the only thing going on while I wass in was Libya acting up and us punching Kaddaffy's nose, then that little dust-up in Grenada. And helping the Brits in their tangle with the Argies.
There was an old Nam Vet that came to the range for awhile - he was always bellyaching about his cancer, "due to Agent Orange!" Drumming for pity. Sad case, but got tiresome real quick.
Most troopers I know don't talk about the combat - but plenty stories of wild times in the Saigon whorehouses & bars!

rebel727 · 02-21-2008, 05:19 AM

I would have gone if it had continued but I wouldn't have volunteered. No, the vets I knew wouldn't talk about it which made things worse. They'd talk about boot camp and bars and what all but not combat. Most were jumpy when they first came home, some for a long time afterward. I know one that still is. I tried to get him to tell me what it was like over there and all he said was "it's some bad s**t going down over there. You don't want any part of it". We were at his mothers house one day. He was sitting in a porch swing and I was sitting on the railing, leaning against a support column. Somebody slammed a car door down the street and quicker than spit he yelled INCOMING at the top of his lungs and tackled me right off that railing into the yard.

Indy · 02-21-2008, 05:24 AM

Vietnam...a place where the bravest our country had to offer fought, died, and returned. The sad result was it started the public displays of discontent that has fostered the liberal radicals. These radicals are so intent on destroying our world as we know it. Our country is strong but if history is correct it will eventually fall. I believe it will fall from within.
Indy
Vietnam 67, 68, & 69

02-20-2008, 11:51 AM	#1
gregkilo Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherokee Co. Alabama Posts: 66	does anyone remember Vietnam? This is all so familiar its scary. My son has made several trips to the mid east region and had to push the politicians out of the way to bring some of our US citizens home.

02-20-2008, 12:24 PM	#2
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,176	I doubt it . . . . Yes, some do remember Vietnam but in a practical sense I doubt it has much place in the collective American memory. If we could learn from history we would not repeat poorly planned military adventures designed to enrich military contractors.

02-20-2008, 03:42 PM	#5
sbowers5 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: sawyer, ok Posts: 199	to whom it may concern, How could i possibly forget, i spent 36 months and 10 days in that god forsaken place with some of the bravest men i have ever known in my life. forget HELL NO NOT EVER!!!!! 68,69.---70,71 hal6 hc7 steve __________________ For those who never fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know. Last edited by sbowers5; 02-21-2008 at 05:45 PM.

02-20-2008, 04:48 PM	#7
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,218	I'm sure my father remembers it well... He was stationed at Tan Son Nhut, AFB in Northern Saigon while serving in the USAF during the war. __________________

02-20-2008, 04:51 PM	#8
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,473	I was in high school during the last years of the Vietnam War. But as a military buff and being interested in geography, I was probably the only kid who knew where that little country was. I'll never forget it either. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

02-20-2008, 12:30 PM	#3
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,503	I wont forget the way our country treated us for serving them. sam.

02-20-2008, 03:19 PM	#4
jd1911 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 71	my dad was in that war taught me most everything i now i can never forget cause my dad was there does this make sense

02-20-2008, 03:52 PM	#6
big boomer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn. Posts: 484	Yes I remember it well I was lucky enough to be stateside my 2 years living on next to nothing for pay (made under four thousand first year a little over 4- 2nd year wife made 120 a month and 4 people had to live on this and I was one of the lucky ones. The poor souls that went over there, were to do the impossible,win with everyone against you, the enemy,press,your own people,and even the gov. would screw things up. As a 2 yr draftee I salute the vets who gave their all and got no respect in return. The country owes these people a debt that can never be repaid.

02-20-2008, 06:17 PM	#9
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,755	we cannot ever forget the toment and hell our soilders went thru over there and then to come home and be spit on and go thru it again back home __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

02-20-2008, 06:54 PM	#10
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,149	Our boys put themselves in harms way to do what our Country asked of them, many making the supreme sacrifice and many more being wounded then the Government politicians lost their guts and didn't have the stomach to do what was necessary to win so they quit and pulled our troops out. Many of the civilians at home were no better with their show of dishonor and disrespect to these Vets. A debt is owed them that can never be repaid. God bless the Vietnam Veterans and all our Veterans from all services. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

02-20-2008, 09:44 PM	#11
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,317	I don't think anyone that grew up in that era will ever forget Nam. I came of age right after the draft was suspended but I spent several years thinking I was going to go. Seeing all those news reels showing young and I mean real young kids walking round with captured M-16's and AK's was more than enough to scare the chit out of me. The way vets I knew personally acted when they got home was worse tho. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

02-20-2008, 10:07 PM	#13
billy G&G asst.dino wrangler Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 7,993 Images: 8 Blog Entries: 108	my relatives and friends that went wont talk about it. and i dont ask. __________________ no matter how responsible he seems dont give a monkey a gun

02-20-2008, 11:41 PM	#16
mym1a Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,063	i'll be 54 in aug. if i'm not mistaken I believe they changed the draft age from 18 to 19 in 1972 and I believe the draft ended in 73? I could be wrong it has been almost 36 years ago? being that I graduated high school in the summer of 72 at age 17 i was only 2 months away from being eligible. all through our senior year a bunch us of thought we were heading there like our friends that were older then us.most of our fathers were either korean or wwII vets and the thought of us running to canada was to shameful to even think of and accepted our fate! lucky for us when we graduated they changed the age and then the following year they ended the draft. I recall my lottery number being no 2 at the time they changed the age to 19?? it's been a long time?????????I'm not even sure if drafties in 72 went to vietnam??????????? Last edited by mym1a; 02-20-2008 at 11:53 PM.

02-20-2008, 11:54 PM	#17
Falcon2 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mich, Retired to Arizona Posts: 25	Sam, you can thank the press, cnn, and the rest of the media for the way they wrote about our brave warriors, too bad that they managed to get out of going.Falcon2

02-21-2008, 04:49 AM	#18
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,473	I was eighteen in 1975, and since the war had ended in '73, the draft was over and the military was beginning to downsize. Still, registering was required. I tried, and the lady at the registration office told me to not bother - they didn't need anybody! So, I enlisted into the USAF! Figured I'd get my committment out of the way before the next shooting war. Musta worked - the only thing going on while I wass in was Libya acting up and us punching Kaddaffy's nose, then that little dust-up in Grenada. And helping the Brits in their tangle with the Argies. There was an old Nam Vet that came to the range for awhile - he was always bellyaching about his cancer, "due to Agent Orange!" Drumming for pity. Sad case, but got tiresome real quick. Most troopers I know don't talk about the combat - but plenty stories of wild times in the Saigon whorehouses & bars! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

02-21-2008, 05:19 AM	#19
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,317	I would have gone if it had continued but I wouldn't have volunteered. No, the vets I knew wouldn't talk about it which made things worse. They'd talk about boot camp and bars and what all but not combat. Most were jumpy when they first came home, some for a long time afterward. I know one that still is. I tried to get him to tell me what it was like over there and all he said was "it's some bad s**t going down over there. You don't want any part of it". We were at his mothers house one day. He was sitting in a porch swing and I was sitting on the railing, leaning against a support column. Somebody slammed a car door down the street and quicker than spit he yelled INCOMING at the top of his lungs and tackled me right off that railing into the yard. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

02-21-2008, 05:24 AM	#20
Indy Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 331	Vietnam...a place where the bravest our country had to offer fought, died, and returned. The sad result was it started the public displays of discontent that has fostered the liberal radicals. These radicals are so intent on destroying our world as we know it. Our country is strong but if history is correct it will eventually fall. I believe it will fall from within. Indy Vietnam 67, 68, & 69

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