help find out what my winchester model 1897 is worth

ms1184 · 06-08-2009, 09:11 AM

i have just gotin this gun from my grandfarther and i hav read a lot of different thing online but was tryin to find out the value of the gun it is in fair condition and from what the internet say by the serial # it was made around the 1918 but thats just what i know and i look at a couple websites and seen pricein and where from 1000$ to 3500$ SO IF ANY ONE KNOW SOMETHING PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR IF INTERESTED IN BUYIN IT LET ME KNOW TOO THANK YOU.

ar10 · 06-10-2009, 11:10 PM

I just traded a 94 (made in 1919) in original condition with about 40% bluing remaining, clean wood, nothing missing for a like new DPMS LR-380 heavy barrel stainless 24" (gun of the year 3 years in a row) with a snippier scope 6x24x50 and 1000 rounds of .308 ammo.

Straight across. This puts my Winchester I traded about at the fifteen to seventeen hundred dollar range. Personally, I think I came out well in the trade. I purchased the Winchester 15 years ago for two hundred dollars. The ammo today costs twice that and some.

Miss my Winchester some, but not that much. Still have several of them.

Want to sell your gun high? Put it at a large estate auction with lots of old people bidding on abut 100 different guns. Sky is the limit.

johnbukie · 06-17-2009, 11:12 AM

Would some one try to put a value on my 1897 my winchester, belonged to my Father, Ser# 180020..original condition, blueing gone, scratches in stock, no cracks in wood. shows wear but action works perfectly, could probably go out and shoot it as is..Would really appreciate a reply..Thanks John B

samuel · 06-17-2009, 11:44 AM

If it is a genuine Trench Gun it is valued at $1500.at 80%,$1200 at 70%,and $1000.at 60% in the bluebook.But there are variables and if you could post pictures,especially any stamps or markings,I bet Mooseman could tell you exactly what market value is. ,,,sam.

JimBob · 06-17-2009, 01:14 PM

Cowboy shooters have driven the pricing up on M97 shotguns to some degree.I sold a plain field grade 12 guage about 2 months ago,little finish,stock a little beat up,shootable condition for $475.You'll not find a genuine Trench Gun at anything close to Blue book Values and fakes abound.One in 80% condition would be closer to $2500+.The prices on a lot of those internet sights mean absolutely nothing if they don't sell.If you watch them,many never receive a bid.It's kind of an "Antiques Road Show"syndrome,I got one about like that must be worth the same,when comparing a gun in 10% condition to one in 90%.On collector type guns a 5% drop in condition may drop the value 30 to 50%.A gun has two prices,what it's worth and what you can get out of it,they are not always the same.The area of the country you are in also makes a difference as to what people will pay.Trying to price a gun without having it in your hands is like asking "how much is my car worth"without seeing the car.

Mooseman684 · 06-17-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ms1184

i have just gotin this gun from my grandfarther and i hav read a lot of different thing online but was tryin to find out the value of the gun it is in fair condition and from what the internet say by the serial # it was made around the 1918 but thats just what i know and i look at a couple websites and seen pricein and where from 1000$ to 3500$ SO IF ANY ONE KNOW SOMETHING PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR IF INTERESTED IN BUYIN IT LET ME KNOW TOO THANK YOU.

How about posting some good closeup pictures...That would help , as you May Have a Good collectors piece !
Need to know if it is marked "WB" or "GHD" and if it has 6 rows of holes or 4 rows of holes in the handguard. How is the blueing ?
Rich

Mooseman684 · 06-17-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbukie

Would some one try to put a value on my 1897 my winchester, belonged to my Father, Ser# 180020..original condition, blueing gone, scratches in stock, no cracks in wood. shows wear but action works perfectly, could probably go out and shoot it as is..Would really appreciate a reply..Thanks John B

Hey John ,
If it is a 12 ga. field grade standard 1897 it is by your description worth about 300 to 400 Dollars. Condition is the prime question here and if was in better shape , it would be worth maybe double that..
If it is a 16 ga 2-3/4 inch then add another 50% to the price !
Rich

GlockMeister · 06-17-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blackhawk45

Aint this the FRIENDLEST GUN FORUM!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, as a whole, IT IS.

But like anything else, when you have and get many DIFFERENT personalities, and opinions, together in one place, things can tend to get a tad, well, testy at times.

What makes it great, most here know this and things for the most part are forgotten.

johnbukie · 06-20-2009, 11:14 AM

John, your 1897 might be worth about $200. most of thses 1897's are worn, no blueing left, scratches on stock, etc. if it has all blueing and nice wood on stock it might go $300+

Mooseman684 · 06-20-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbukie

John, your 1897 might be worth about $200. most of thses 1897's are worn, no blueing left, scratches on stock, etc. if it has all blueing and nice wood on stock it might go $300+

Who told you that ????
Rich

JimBob · 06-20-2009, 03:10 PM

No matter how worn your M97 is,it's still worth more than those chinese repos.

tcorley · 06-25-2009, 07:47 PM

I own 2 model 97, Winchester 12 gauge pumps, serial numbers 660235 & 957128, both in good & original condition. Does anyone have a ball park idea of the $ value of these?

adob61 · 07-04-2009, 01:27 PM

Serial Number 503861

I was given this weapon from a family member, with unknown history.

I am interested in:

Production date
Value
Where does one get ammo for this weapon

It needs some TLC, but with refurb I am sure it work well

Thank you

chesterwin · 07-04-2009, 03:29 PM

A word of caution to all Winchester 1897 owners. If the gun has seen a lot of use, or handling with the action opened and closed repeatedly, the slide, frame rails and hammer experience wear. It's recommended a gunsmith check the firearm for safety. Those with excessive wear on the three components listed above have been known to slamfire. It seems that if enough metal has worn the hammer can drop as the bolt is shifted forward to the battery position. Just a precaution to have them checked if you're unsure.

ozzie · 07-13-2009, 02:54 PM

hi have a 1987 model and the sereal number is c105508 and i was wondering if anyone could tell me how old it was?

Dagroane · 09-21-2009, 07:08 AM

I was trying to figure the value of my mod 97 when I ran across these posts. Not to bring up old disscussions but, I'm a little confused. Mine is a 16 gauge chambered for 2 3/4 shells. Its been reblued, the stock has a small chip on bottom of the butt. Serial # says made in 1908. The delima I have is earlier a post said no Black Diamond Grades made in 16 gauge but mine says "Trap Gun" on the bolt and has a black diamond on both sides of the stock.

Passnu · 11-04-2009, 07:24 PM

Hello

A older friend of mine who is not too savy on computers needs assistance. He has in his possesion a Winchester Model 97 12 ga Studebaker. Supposedly there were only two of these made for the Studebaker company/family? Does anyone know if that is true? The serial number is E1006307. Now be nice I got this information over the phone from him and he is an ederly gentleman.

Any information someone can provide would be greatly appreciated

DavidFahrenholz · 11-05-2009, 03:30 PM

I have a Winchester 1897 model with serial number 46885. Can anyone date this? Thanks

06-08-2009, 09:11 AM	#21
ms1184 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1	winchester model 1897 trench gun i have just gotin this gun from my grandfarther and i hav read a lot of different thing online but was tryin to find out the value of the gun it is in fair condition and from what the internet say by the serial # it was made around the 1918 but thats just what i know and i look at a couple websites and seen pricein and where from 1000$ to 3500$ SO IF ANY ONE KNOW SOMETHING PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR IF INTERESTED IN BUYIN IT LET ME KNOW TOO THANK YOU.

06-10-2009, 11:10 PM	#22
ar10 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 64	I just traded a 94 (made in 1919) in original condition with about 40% bluing remaining, clean wood, nothing missing for a like new DPMS LR-380 heavy barrel stainless 24" (gun of the year 3 years in a row) with a snippier scope 6x24x50 and 1000 rounds of .308 ammo. Straight across. This puts my Winchester I traded about at the fifteen to seventeen hundred dollar range. Personally, I think I came out well in the trade. I purchased the Winchester 15 years ago for two hundred dollars. The ammo today costs twice that and some. Miss my Winchester some, but not that much. Still have several of them. Want to sell your gun high? Put it at a large estate auction with lots of old people bidding on abut 100 different guns. Sky is the limit. __________________ Lifetime Member NRA. Lifetime Member GWTA. Member Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Last edited by ar10; 06-10-2009 at 11:16 PM.

06-17-2009, 01:14 PM	#25
JimBob Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Central Illinois Posts: 725	Cowboy shooters have driven the pricing up on M97 shotguns to some degree.I sold a plain field grade 12 guage about 2 months ago,little finish,stock a little beat up,shootable condition for $475.You'll not find a genuine Trench Gun at anything close to Blue book Values and fakes abound.One in 80% condition would be closer to $2500+.The prices on a lot of those internet sights mean absolutely nothing if they don't sell.If you watch them,many never receive a bid.It's kind of an "Antiques Road Show"syndrome,I got one about like that must be worth the same,when comparing a gun in 10% condition to one in 90%.On collector type guns a 5% drop in condition may drop the value 30 to 50%.A gun has two prices,what it's worth and what you can get out of it,they are not always the same.The area of the country you are in also makes a difference as to what people will pay.Trying to price a gun without having it in your hands is like asking "how much is my car worth"without seeing the car. Last edited by JimBob; 06-17-2009 at 01:21 PM.

06-20-2009, 11:14 AM	#29
johnbukie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Michigan 6 months, Florida 6 months Posts: 4	Gun Buyer John, your 1897 might be worth about $200. most of thses 1897's are worn, no blueing left, scratches on stock, etc. if it has all blueing and nice wood on stock it might go $300+

07-04-2009, 01:27 PM	#33
adob61 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1	Winchester Model 1897 Serial Number 503861 I was given this weapon from a family member, with unknown history. I am interested in: Production date Value Where does one get ammo for this weapon It needs some TLC, but with refurb I am sure it work well Thank you

06-17-2009, 11:12 AM	#23
johnbukie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Michigan 6 months, Florida 6 months Posts: 4	Would some one try to put a value on my 1897 my winchester, belonged to my Father, Ser# 180020..original condition, blueing gone, scratches in stock, no cracks in wood. shows wear but action works perfectly, could probably go out and shoot it as is..Would really appreciate a reply..Thanks John B

06-17-2009, 11:44 AM	#24
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 10,912	If it is a genuine Trench Gun it is valued at $1500.at 80%,$1200 at 70%,and $1000.at 60% in the bluebook.But there are variables and if you could post pictures,especially any stamps or markings,I bet Mooseman could tell you exactly what market value is. ,,,sam.

06-20-2009, 03:10 PM	#31
JimBob Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Central Illinois Posts: 725	No matter how worn your M97 is,it's still worth more than those chinese repos.

06-25-2009, 07:47 PM	#32
tcorley Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1	I own 2 model 97, Winchester 12 gauge pumps, serial numbers 660235 & 957128, both in good & original condition. Does anyone have a ball park idea of the $ value of these?

07-04-2009, 03:29 PM	#34
chesterwin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 515	A word of caution to all Winchester 1897 owners. If the gun has seen a lot of use, or handling with the action opened and closed repeatedly, the slide, frame rails and hammer experience wear. It's recommended a gunsmith check the firearm for safety. Those with excessive wear on the three components listed above have been known to slamfire. It seems that if enough metal has worn the hammer can drop as the bolt is shifted forward to the battery position. Just a precaution to have them checked if you're unsure.

07-13-2009, 02:54 PM	#35
ozzie Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7	hi have a 1987 model and the sereal number is c105508 and i was wondering if anyone could tell me how old it was?

09-21-2009, 07:08 AM	#36
Dagroane Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1	Winchester Model 97 I was trying to figure the value of my mod 97 when I ran across these posts. Not to bring up old disscussions but, I'm a little confused. Mine is a 16 gauge chambered for 2 3/4 shells. Its been reblued, the stock has a small chip on bottom of the butt. Serial # says made in 1908. The delima I have is earlier a post said no Black Diamond Grades made in 16 gauge but mine says "Trap Gun" on the bolt and has a black diamond on both sides of the stock. Attached Thumbnails

11-04-2009, 07:24 PM	#37
Passnu Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1	Model 97 Studebaker Hello A older friend of mine who is not too savy on computers needs assistance. He has in his possesion a Winchester Model 97 12 ga Studebaker. Supposedly there were only two of these made for the Studebaker company/family? Does anyone know if that is true? The serial number is E1006307. Now be nice I got this information over the phone from him and he is an ederly gentleman. Any information someone can provide would be greatly appreciated

11-05-2009, 03:30 PM	#38
DavidFahrenholz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1	Age of Gun I have a Winchester 1897 model with serial number 46885. Can anyone date this? Thanks