Model 70

[Mooseman684]

I have a NIB 84M Kimber in .338 Federal...The Euro-Walnut is Beautiful !!!
Rich

[Dbl gun]

Model 70's are one of the all time great classic bolt actions and my favorite. I currently have ten, mostly pre 64's......2-257, 3-30/06, and 1 each of 220S, 243, 25/06, 270, 308. Love 'em all!

[calaper]

Ok so i am obviously new to the world of model 70's but wow was i impressed. Took to the range on Sunday with the model 70 and 50 rounds. I was getting beautiful clover leaf groups at 100 yards. I think with a little more tinkering with my reloads i am sure to get even better. I hope to shoot around 200 yards and get nice groups. Either way the model 70 really proved itself to me, nice action, great accuracy....flawless so far in my eyes!

[turner]

Originally Posted by Nathan123

That always helps. What cal was your Kimber? Mine is .30-06 it will shoot 1/2 inch with 168gr Hornady A-Max. Shoots just under 1 inch with just about everything else i have put thru it.

Mine is a .308, which I suppose also was a reason I let it go as I have more .308s than I care to admit. The Kimber was a good, quality rifle, but the nicer blueing and smoother action of my CF model 70s won out I suppose.

[darkerstill]

Hey all,

New to these boards and am hoping someone can help me out. My grandfather bought a used Winchester Model 70 when my dad was just a kid (1950's). Twice while deer hunting the gun fired when it was being loaded (once during a hunt in the early 70's the other in 1992). It has since sat in my grandafther's basement. He has given the gun to me. I have taken it to a reputable gunsmith who has taken it apart and has told me that it needs a new firing pin, firing pin retainer, and cocking piece. This is where I need help. I have done some research and found that the gun was made in 1945 (serial # 50XXX). It is a 30.06 and is stamped "30 gov't 06". The gunsmith can't find the parts he needs. He sais he needs "Pre-War, pre-64" parts. Is that right? A website I went to states that this gun would only be considered "pre-64." Does anyone know where I could get these parts? Thanks in advance for the help.

[TAM270]

Look on Gunbroker and Ebay.

[Purdy]

Originally Posted by darkerstill

Hey all,

New to these boards and am hoping someone can help me out. My grandfather bought a used Winchester Model 70 when my dad was just a kid (1950's). Twice while deer hunting the gun fired when it was being loaded (once during a hunt in the early 70's the other in 1992). It has since sat in my grandafther's basement. He has given the gun to me. I have taken it to a reputable gunsmith who has taken it apart and has told me that it needs a new firing pin, firing pin retainer, and cocking piece. This is where I need help. I have done some research and found that the gun was made in 1945 (serial # 50XXX). It is a 30.06 and is stamped "30 gov't 06". The gunsmith can't find the parts he needs. He sais he needs "Pre-War, pre-64" parts. Is that right? A website I went to states that this gun would only be considered "pre-64." Does anyone know where I could get these parts? Thanks in advance for the help.

I'd get a second opinion. The things you mentioned would not be likely to cause the premature firing unless someone has done a lot of grinding on the cocking piece. Usually the accidental firing while loading is caused by improper trigger adjustment. Someone tries to lighten the trigger pull and causes the sear engagment to be so small as to be dangerous. Has the "reputable gunsmith" offered to take this defective rifle off your hands?

[jimkim]

The pre-64 model 70 is the most desirable model 70. You should be able to find parts on line with a simple search. This popped up immediately.
Winchester* pre 64* Model 70 Rifle Parts
Obsolete Parts for Winchester Firearms
I agree with Purdy you need to take it somewhere else. Get another opinion.

[sbowers5]

+ 2 jimkim and purdy, i would bet money it is a improperly adjusted trigger, i think the reputable gunsmith is full of sh-----t, and you need a second opinion for a realy good gunsmith that know what he taklking about.
steve

[darkerstill]

Thanks everyone for the replies. It seems that when my grandfather bought the gun way back when, it had already been handled incorrectly by a gunsmith. The guy I took it to showed me the problem(s) and no he hasn't offered to buy the gun from me. I actually took pics of the firing pin and bolt and sent the to Moosman684. He is going to try his best to help me out. Thanks also for posting the websites for parts. I had already searched those sites and contacted them about the parts, but with no luck. So, I guess Moosman684 and myself are still looking if anyone has the parts laying around. LOL.

[turner]

Originally Posted by CroMagnum

Winchesters are my favorite rifles, I own 2 but would like to get a few more. 1 is a pushfeed post 64 Model 70 Sporter in 270 Win, the other is a M70 Classic 375H&H and both sport synthetic stocks. I would like to have another Classic in 300H&H and a Featherweight in either 7mm-08 or 308, of course both with wood stocks. Wife has a beautiful Kimber 84M in 7mm-08, i've never seen that kind of wood come on a standard factory rifle. Would also like a Kimber 8400 Montana in a 7mm-08.

I have a Featherweight classic in 7/08 and it's a great rifle. My 84M had gorgeous wood as well, but the overall appearence of the nice blue, schnabel forend, and extra nice checkering on my mod 70 is what made me ultimately choose it over the Kimber. I also prefer the model 70 action to that of the 84M. When appearences count, I'm still a fan of good old, well done, shiny bluing.

[MemphisJim1]

I guess sometimes it pays to be born lucky. My father's main Christmas present from my mother in 1955 was a Win M-70 Featherweight .308. We lived in Montana at the time and it saw much action on hunting trips for mulies, antelope and bear. In Fall '56 he went on a pack trip into the Bob Marshall Wilderness on an elk/goat/bear hunt. The only marks on the rifle are some scratches on the forearm from sliding down a hillside on that trip. Last year he finally let me take custody of the rifle. Just for grins and giggles I took it to the range last fall and sighted it at 200 yards. Even let my son put a few rounds through it. Someday I will allow my son to assume custody on the promise that he will someday pass it on to his son. In the interim it will sit in my gun safe between annual brief sessions at the range (to assure it stays in working order from year-to year <wink><wink>) and be treated as the multi-generational heirloom it is. The pity is during those Montana years Dad also had M-70 featherweights in .243 and .270; but they, a model 21 and several model 12s have long since passed into other hands. C'est la vie.