Old 01-24-2010, 03:10 PM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 4
Question Wichester model 70 will not fire

I have a model 70 that I bought from a friend. He won the rifle in a raffle in Eagle River Wisconsin like 30 years ago. He never fired the rifle. I bought it off of him and I took it to the range. I can not get the rifle to fire. The hammer shoots forward and nothing. The primer does not have so much as a scratch on it. I suspect the firing pin may be short?
This is (other than being 30 years old) is in effect a brand new rifle.
It is chambered in .270 winchester
The serial is G1942xxx

Can anyone tell me the year? (I know its not a pre-'64)
Can anyone measure thier firing pin so I can measure against mine?
Anyone have any other info on how I can get my rifle operable?

Thanks,
-Ted
DEADHEAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2010, 03:16 PM   #2
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Outer Banks
Posts: 6,426
Sounds like the firing pin is gummed up by old oil. Pull the bolt apart and clean the old oil from the firing pin and from inside the bolt. Carberator cleaner works good. Once you have all the gummed up oil off/out. Lube the firing pin and reassemble the bolt. You should be good to go.

Welcome to Gun and Game. I see this is your first post. You might want to introduce yourself in the new members thread.
__________________
NRA LIFE MEMBER - Support Our Troops - Land of the Free, because of the Brave.

Last edited by chesterwin; 01-24-2010 at 03:18 PM.
chesterwin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2010, 03:43 PM   #3
Firearm Zealot
 
Mooseman684's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Alaska Wilderness. Master Gunsmith
Posts: 17,245
What Chesterwin said is correct...But the firing pin could be broken or Bent as well , or out of adjustment . If you dont know how or cant fix it , I can repair it for you if you like if you dont have a qualified Gunsmith nearby. You pay for Parts and Postage .

Rich
__________________
[I]You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!:( [/I]
Mooseman684 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2010, 04:48 PM   #4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 4
Thanks,
I was playing with it a bit today. I took the bolt apart, cleaned and lubed it per your advice.
The inside of the bolt where the striker assembly goes is clean.

Loaded a round (that I removed the powder/bullet from)
Nothing...

If I put a cleaning rod down it with a jag on the end, and make sure the end of the jag that is supposed to hold the cleaning patch goes into the firing pin hole in the bolt face, When the trigger is pulled I get a nice crisp jump of the cleaning rod.

I cut the end off that holds the patch so that it will only sit flat against the bolt face, no jump.

The firing pin is not broken (The black finish has not even a scratch in it), no bends.

If I turn the striker assembly with the saftey in the fire mode, The firing pin protrudes from the bolt face.

What sort of adjustments can be made? I am very mechanically inclined. I can probably do it if I know what I am checking for.

Thanks for the offer-but there are lots of good smiths near me.
I just cant imagine what the holdup with this rifle is? It has one of the simplest actions of any rifle I own. And like I said, essentially brand new...

-Ted
DEADHEAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2010, 05:08 PM   #5
Firearm Zealot
 
Mooseman684's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Alaska Wilderness. Master Gunsmith
Posts: 17,245
IF the firing pin protrudes from the bolt face when the bolt is uncocked then , unless there is an obstruction somewhere, it should fire a primed case unless the headspace is too loose...
What does the protrusion Measure from the Bolt face ? It should be at least .050 .
Check for clearance at the back of the reciever and sear area as it sounds like something is stopping the pin from full travel when the bolt is in the gun...
Rich
__________________
[I]You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!:( [/I]
Mooseman684 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2010, 05:11 PM   #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 4
Smile Got it!

Got it!!!

I was playing with it a bit more. The action was so stiff that it would not allow the bolt handle to turn all the way!
It took a fairly good amount of extra force to get it all the way home.
Put my cleaning rod down it with the jag on the bolt face and it jumped nicely.
Not beiing the type to force things, I thought the bolt was all the way home.

I am confident the next time I try to fire it, I'll get a boom.

Thanks to all!
-Ted
DEADHEAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2010, 05:38 PM   #7
Firearm Zealot
 
Mooseman684's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Alaska Wilderness. Master Gunsmith
Posts: 17,245
Very good...But the action should be smoothe and not stiff without a cartridge in the chamber !
__________________
[I]You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!:( [/I]
Mooseman684 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2010, 06:14 PM   #8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 4
Now that I'm workingh it it's smoothing out.
30 years of sitting in a safe gummed it up.

-Ted
DEADHEAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Gun & Game - The Friendliest Gun Forum on the Internet > Firearms > Manufacturers > Winchester

Tags
bolt action, fire, model, model 70, wichester, winchester

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:15 PM.




Recent Discussions

Connect with us!
Advertisement



"It don't cost nuthin' to be nice." -- Mike West