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SexyRedXterra · 10-26-2003, 04:01 PM

so i take it a 22 is a good starting gun since that seems to be what everybody's suggesting?

BattleRifleG3 · 10-26-2003, 04:21 PM

Yes, because the ammo is cheap and the recoil is very low.

Shaun · 10-26-2003, 05:55 PM

whats recoil in a 22 there isn't any

SexyRedXterra · 10-26-2003, 06:40 PM

yay no recoil; that's good

BattleRifleG3 · 10-26-2003, 07:00 PM

Recoil can be rewarding, but only in moderation.

SexyRedXterra · 10-26-2003, 08:55 PM

Shaun · 10-26-2003, 09:09 PM

SRX I have yet to figure that one out if it were rewarding I wouldn't feel the pain after firing 20 rounds with my 375h&H magnum

BattleRifleG3 · 10-26-2003, 09:37 PM

Emphasis on the moderation part. The recoil from a smooth working SKS or M1 Garand makes you feel like you're accomplising something. Same with a properly sized and weighted semi auto pistol. Or a nice hefty K98 Mauser. And depending on what you shoot, a 12ga shotgun with regular loads feels nice when you see whatever you were shooting blow up (if you shoot the same inanimate objects that I do).

Can't say the same for my 300 RUM though. Only reward I'll get from it is hopefully some food.

SexyRedXterra · 10-27-2003, 06:34 AM

but why would i prefer to feel "accomplished" over pain? So basically the only good of recoiling is that it feeds one's ego?

Shaun · 10-27-2003, 07:25 AM

ah BRG3 just wants you to experience pain -- just realize when you finally settle on a caliber you are comfortable with there will be some recoil in a handgun it won't be that bad if you stay with a semi auto, if you go with the revolver and magnum loads then you get to feel it. I believe you will end up settling on the .40 S&W when all is done and you are finally comfortable with what you want.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-27-2003, 09:09 AM

I wasn't talking about pain, I was distinguishing between pain and a friendly pat, push, tap, or however one would describe moderately recoiling rifles like SKSs and ARs. Buttpads help to make the difference, maybe that's why I like my Yugo better than my Norinco SKS.

I'm a fan of the 40 S&W myself. HK USP compacts come in 40 S&W. So do Steyrs.

Shaun · 10-27-2003, 09:21 AM

bet she will like the Kahr or the Browning, maybe even a Sig

SexyRedXterra · 10-27-2003, 01:40 PM

which ones of those do not hurt?

BattleRifleG3 · 10-27-2003, 02:26 PM

I have no experience with Sig, I'm told that Steyr uses a similar locking mechanism as the Browning, and that Kahr is similar in feel to the Browning.

My Steyr M40 is the most comfortable shooting pistol I've ever shot, I kid you not. It has absolutely spoiled me. I've never shot an HK, but those who have say that it's the only one that can hold a candlt to the Steyr. Others still say SIG is better. I think the polymer frames on HK and Steyr help their comfort, and the presence of their manual safety is a must for me.

Do Kahrs have a safety?

Shaun · 10-27-2003, 02:29 PM

Kahr's don't have a safety -- your finger is the safety but a pure DA gun they don't need it. They have the exact angles as the Browing and the colt thats why Hi Power shooters and 1911 shooters love them

BattleRifleG3 · 10-27-2003, 02:39 PM

Whether or not a manual safety is needed is a subject for debate and ultimately boils down to personal choice. I'm in the school of thought that you can become the most expert at not putting your finger on a trigger until firing, but little silly things like getting caught in your shirt can make it a risk I can't accept. I'd rather focus on getting proficient with a manual safety.

SexyRedXterra · 10-27-2003, 02:41 PM

then speaking of clothes, what kind of clothes are best for learning how to shoot in safely?

NRAJOE · 10-27-2003, 02:44 PM

Its best to shoot nekkid, then post your photos on here!

SexyRedXterra · 10-27-2003, 02:45 PM

how did i see that one coming? ok aside from one's brithday suit, what is best to shoot in?

NRAJOE · 10-27-2003, 02:46 PM

Comfortable jeans and sweatshirt...now that its getting colder.

10-26-2003, 04:01 PM	#61
SexyRedXterra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Shore and Western PA Posts: 1,206 Trader Rating: (0)	so i take it a 22 is a good starting gun since that seems to be what everybody's suggesting? __________________ "God doesn't always do things on our schedule, but he's always right on time."

10-26-2003, 04:21 PM	#62
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Yes, because the ammo is cheap and the recoil is very low. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-26-2003, 05:55 PM	#63
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,585 Trader Rating: (0)	whats recoil in a 22 there isn't any __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

10-26-2003, 06:40 PM	#64
SexyRedXterra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Shore and Western PA Posts: 1,206 Trader Rating: (0)	yay no recoil; that's good __________________ "God doesn't always do things on our schedule, but he's always right on time."

10-26-2003, 07:00 PM	#65
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Recoil can be rewarding, but only in moderation. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-26-2003, 08:55 PM	#66
SexyRedXterra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Shore and Western PA Posts: 1,206 Trader Rating: (0)	how? __________________ "God doesn't always do things on our schedule, but he's always right on time."

10-26-2003, 09:09 PM	#67
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,585 Trader Rating: (0)	SRX I have yet to figure that one out if it were rewarding I wouldn't feel the pain after firing 20 rounds with my 375h&H magnum __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

10-26-2003, 09:37 PM	#68
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Emphasis on the moderation part. The recoil from a smooth working SKS or M1 Garand makes you feel like you're accomplising something. Same with a properly sized and weighted semi auto pistol. Or a nice hefty K98 Mauser. And depending on what you shoot, a 12ga shotgun with regular loads feels nice when you see whatever you were shooting blow up (if you shoot the same inanimate objects that I do). Can't say the same for my 300 RUM though. Only reward I'll get from it is hopefully some food. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-27-2003, 06:34 AM	#69
SexyRedXterra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Shore and Western PA Posts: 1,206 Trader Rating: (0)	but why would i prefer to feel "accomplished" over pain? So basically the only good of recoiling is that it feeds one's ego? __________________ "God doesn't always do things on our schedule, but he's always right on time."

10-27-2003, 07:25 AM	#70
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,585 Trader Rating: (0)	ah BRG3 just wants you to experience pain -- just realize when you finally settle on a caliber you are comfortable with there will be some recoil in a handgun it won't be that bad if you stay with a semi auto, if you go with the revolver and magnum loads then you get to feel it. I believe you will end up settling on the .40 S&W when all is done and you are finally comfortable with what you want. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

10-27-2003, 09:09 AM	#71
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	I wasn't talking about pain, I was distinguishing between pain and a friendly pat, push, tap, or however one would describe moderately recoiling rifles like SKSs and ARs. Buttpads help to make the difference, maybe that's why I like my Yugo better than my Norinco SKS. I'm a fan of the 40 S&W myself. HK USP compacts come in 40 S&W. So do Steyrs. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-27-2003, 09:21 AM	#72
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,585 Trader Rating: (0)	bet she will like the Kahr or the Browning, maybe even a Sig __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

10-27-2003, 01:40 PM	#73
SexyRedXterra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Shore and Western PA Posts: 1,206 Trader Rating: (0)	which ones of those do not hurt? __________________ "God doesn't always do things on our schedule, but he's always right on time."

10-27-2003, 02:26 PM	#74
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	I have no experience with Sig, I'm told that Steyr uses a similar locking mechanism as the Browning, and that Kahr is similar in feel to the Browning. My Steyr M40 is the most comfortable shooting pistol I've ever shot, I kid you not. It has absolutely spoiled me. I've never shot an HK, but those who have say that it's the only one that can hold a candlt to the Steyr. Others still say SIG is better. I think the polymer frames on HK and Steyr help their comfort, and the presence of their manual safety is a must for me. Do Kahrs have a safety? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf Last edited by BattleRifleG3; 10-27-2003 at 02:35 PM.

10-27-2003, 02:29 PM	#75
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,585 Trader Rating: (0)	Kahr's don't have a safety -- your finger is the safety but a pure DA gun they don't need it. They have the exact angles as the Browing and the colt thats why Hi Power shooters and 1911 shooters love them __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

10-27-2003, 02:39 PM	#76
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Whether or not a manual safety is needed is a subject for debate and ultimately boils down to personal choice. I'm in the school of thought that you can become the most expert at not putting your finger on a trigger until firing, but little silly things like getting caught in your shirt can make it a risk I can't accept. I'd rather focus on getting proficient with a manual safety. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-27-2003, 02:41 PM	#77
SexyRedXterra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Shore and Western PA Posts: 1,206 Trader Rating: (0)	then speaking of clothes, what kind of clothes are best for learning how to shoot in safely? __________________ "God doesn't always do things on our schedule, but he's always right on time."

10-27-2003, 02:44 PM	#78
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,014 Trader Rating: (0)	Its best to shoot nekkid, then post your photos on here! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-27-2003, 02:45 PM	#79
SexyRedXterra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Shore and Western PA Posts: 1,206 Trader Rating: (0)	how did i see that one coming? ok aside from one's brithday suit, what is best to shoot in? __________________ "God doesn't always do things on our schedule, but he's always right on time."

10-27-2003, 02:46 PM	#80
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,014 Trader Rating: (0)	Comfortable jeans and sweatshirt...now that its getting colder. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany