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Old 07-28-2007, 11:34 AM   #41
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Reminds me of a guy I used to know who believed church attendance should be mandatory, and insisted that the Founders intended only that you could have your choice of WHICH church to attend (and only Protestant ones, at that).

To me, the right to be free from religion if one so chooses is an integral part of freedom of religion...there's no doubt though, that there are crazies out there who think freedom of religion means it should be totally disappeared, so they won't have to suffer from knowing it exists.

At the other extreme, I read in this morning's paper that some of the Takfiri in Iraq have pronounced ice to be 'un-Islamic," because Muhammed didn't have it. If there's anything I despise, it's people of any stripe who think you should suffer for their beliefs...
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:13 PM   #42
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Reminds me of a guy I used to know who believed church attendance should be mandatory, and insisted that the Founders intended only that you could have your choice of WHICH church to attend (and only Protestant ones, at that).

To me, the right to be free from religion if one so chooses is an integral part of freedom of religion...there's no doubt though, that there are crazies out there who think freedom of religion means it should be totally disappeared, so they won't have to suffer from knowing it exists.

At the other extreme, I read in this morning's paper that some of the Takfiri in Iraq have pronounced ice to be 'un-Islamic," because Muhammed didn't have it. If there's anything I despise, it's people of any stripe who think you should suffer for their beliefs...
Reminds me of the same folks that believe the 2nd Ammendment doesn't mean MY right to bear arms.
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Old 12-19-2007, 02:25 PM   #43
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Here are some previous news clips about Fred that we've somehow forgotten:

WorldNetDaily: Fred Thompson: Globalist?
WorldNetDaily: Fred Thompson's globalist pedigree
Pro-Life News: Fred Thompson: Another CFR-Member
Fred Thompson - Council on Foreign Relations
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.js...81474977024920
CNN.com - CNN Political Ticker Fred Thompson to head to New Hampshire «

Why have we so quickly forgotten that Fred is connected to the globalists, the Council on Foreign Relation and One World Government Globalists, and all that they and their associates promote: North American Union, Amero, RFID Chip, etc...?
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:31 PM   #44
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Here are some previous news clips about Fred that we've somehow forgotten:
WorldNetDaily: Fred Thompson: Globalist?
WorldNetDaily: Fred Thompson's globalist pedigree
Pro-Life News: Fred Thompson: Another CFR-Member
Fred Thompson - Council on Foreign Relations
Fred Thompson's globalist pedigree, and CFR Membership. by Michael D. — news, politics, wake up america | Gather
CNN.com - CNN Political Ticker Fred Thompson to head to New Hampshire «
Why have we so quickly forgotten that Fred is connected to the globalists, the Council on Foreign Relation and One World Government Globalists, and all that they and their associates promote: North American Union, Amero, RFID Chip, etc...?
Tell me, LiveToShoot, who out there DO you approve of? As far as I can tell, you think that if someone is prominent it proves he's dirty. Period. Horrors, horrors, horrors, he actually knows influential people; he must be part of The Conspiracy...

Some current members of the Council on Foreign Relations: Dick Cheney; Bill Clinton; Alan Greenspan; Gary Hart; Brent Scowcroft; Barbara Walters; Paul Wolfowitz.

I suppose the fact that some of those are liberals or Democrats, and some conservatives or Republicans, will be seen by some as proof that everyone's in on the conspiracy together. But here's a weird thought: what if it just means it actually is a nonpartisan group?
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:07 AM   #45
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My personal choice would be Ron Paul.
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Old 12-23-2007, 05:30 AM   #46
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Windwalker, It's wonderful and inspiring to read your post, mentioning the right and exercise of personal choice, and the unmentioned and supportive freedom we have that allows for and protects such.

Your efforts, along with the efforts of all the others who value freedom and choice, will help to keep freedom and choice in America.

I encourage you to keep standing strong in those powerful views, freedom and choice; strong against those who try to come along and disillusion with their deceptive bashing.

Thanks...
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:10 AM   #47
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SINCE AN INDEPENDENT VOTE IS A WASTED VOTE.
I AM GOING TO HAVE TO CHOOSE CAREFULLY.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:23 AM   #48
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If it turns out to be a choice between say Hillary and Juliani there is no careful choice. sam.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:25 AM   #49
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Lets' keep doing our part, and encouraging others to do the same, so we can try to avoid that kind of situation...because that is not the voting choice, between Hillary and Guiliani, that I want to deal with later.
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Old 12-25-2007, 08:56 PM   #50
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Additional perspective on the CFR, its membership and activities:
Mordechai Zember -- Council on Foreign Relations is an Elite Cabal
Mordechai Zember -- C.F.R. Has No Affiliation with the U.S. Gov't.

When looking at a each presidential candidate, or any other candidate campaigning for political office, it's helpful to know who, people and organized groups, is behind them and what their real agenda is...not the agenda, lip service, they give during campaign time to win your vote. Much of what is contained in the hidden agenda(s) challenges our rights and freedoms, and especially our gun rights, even though the candidate(s) may/will voice otherwise while on the campaign trail. The CFR has an agenda, and it's an agenda that is gradually bearing fruit which we may not want to partake of. I don't want to "suffer for their beliefs" and activities.
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:20 AM   #51
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Ron Paul and Fred would be my choices.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:28 AM   #52
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Please for give me but Fred seems to be ill prepard and shows no fire in his eyes.
I believe he would lean heavly on his cabinet for direction.
So if he wins he better surround him self with good people.

Some of you know I'm leaning towards Mike Huckabee, but thats not a done deal yet.
I will vote for the best candidate and Fred is an option.
Comparing Mike and Fred it's hands down in the Brains department Mike wins.
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