Barak Obama Supports gun rights

[tlarkin]

Just a question, is the sole deciding factor on who you vote revolve around gun rights?

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by tlarkin

Just a question, is the sole deciding factor on who you vote revolve around gun rights?

Not for me it isn't. There's no point in electing someone who's going to leave us our guns, while they quietly and methodically dismantle the other nine parts of the Bill of Rights.

[LarryO1970]

Unfortunately, politicians will say anything to be elected. Look at their voting records to know ... unfortunately, it will not be for sure.

So far, I have not found a single Democrat supporting the 2nd Amendment...

Anybody?

[tlarkin]

Even if a President who was for gun control and against the 2nd amendment rights would have to go through our system of checks and balances, and even then it could be appealed. Hopefully, most of them will see that it is a pointless long road ahead to go down this path that will cost us time and money better spent somewhere else. Like getting our troops home from the middle east to their families and help improve our foreign relationships with them at the same time.

[LarryO1970]

Luckily... most Democrats know it is insane and damn near political suicide to go against the 2nd Amendment.

Let's hope that holds true...

[tlarkin]

Originally Posted by LarryO1970

Luckily... most Democrats know it is insane and damn near political suicide to go against the 2nd Amendment.

Let's hope that holds true...

Not only that but the 2nd amendment is just not totally applicable to our society today and what our country has become. I mean it would take years to go through and make it applicable to todays standards and then once it reaches that, debate each side and vote for what is right. However, I think we should achieve world peace before that happens hahaha. Then maybe decide to change the 2nd amendment after all our other problems are taken care of. Which of course will never happen in any of our life times, or it may never happen period.

To me, gun control and the 2nd amendment should be on the back burner while we take care of our economy, health care, education, taxes, big business, labor laws, immigration, foreign policy, etc.

What scares me the most right now is how our economy is shifting and how the middle class is slowly disappearing.

[LarryO1970]

Originally Posted by tlarkin

Not only that but the 2nd amendment is just not totally applicable to our society today and what our country has become. I mean it would take years to go through and make it applicable to todays standards and then once it reaches that, debate each side and vote for what is right. However, I think we should achieve world peace before that happens hahaha. Then maybe decide to change the 2nd amendment after all our other problems are taken care of. Which of course will never happen in any of our life times, or it may never happen period.

To me, gun control and the 2nd amendment should be on the back burner while we take care of our economy, health care, education, taxes, big business, labor laws, immigration, foreign policy, etc.

What scares me the most right now is how our economy is shifting and how the middle class is slowly disappearing.

Uh ... with all due respect... freedoms should not be pushed to the back burner.

[tlarkin]

No, do not misunderstand what I am saying. I am saying it should be left as it is, as a right as it stands. Changing it should be put to the back burner.

[Wingwiper]

Originally Posted by tlarkin

Just a question, is the sole deciding factor on who you vote revolve around gun rights?

Absolutely! There is NO COMPROMISE, they must serve the U.S. Constitution as it is written and as they have lived prior to seeking to serve it. I am not voting for them to change it, I am voting for a person who will Serve and Defend it, in its entirety.

The Second Amendment is a very important thing, it is apart of the U.S. Consitution and Bill of Rights. WHich is what this country has built its entire foundation of principles on.
If you are willing to dismantle the Second, which one will be next?
I constantly hear that Pissing on the Flag is protected by the first and yet the Second seems meaningless.
If any President attacks any part of the U.S. Consitution with the hopes of DELETING, then they are eroding a chunk of our foundation away.
I do not believe that hiding under an Amendment is proper either but deleting it, is worth going to war over. Look at any military Cemetary that you care to and what do you think those Honorable people died for? So we could tear our principles to pieces under the disguise of Modern adaption? That piece of paper has lasted for over 200 years and the Bill of Rights needs to stay UNCHANGED as well as any of the exsisting Amendments. We can add, but deleting is unacceptable for any reason.
Several of the Candidates have stated they would love to see two sections of Article 2 Section 1 changed. I think that is as much of an attack as trying to delete the second.

[rasterman77]

Originally Posted by troy2000

Not for me it isn't. There's no point in electing someone who's going to leave us our guns, while they quietly and methodically dismantle the other nine parts of the Bill of Rights.

This type of insightfulness is a rarity. Voting based soley on the 2nd would be like marrying a gal because she is good in bed, important, maybe even necessary for some but surely not the only consideration!

[Wingwiper]

Originally Posted by rasterman77

This type of insightfulness is a rarity. Voting based soley on the 2nd would be like marrying a gal because she is good in bed, important, maybe even necessary for some but surely not the only consideration!

Well Voting for a candidate that is willing to change the very fundamental core of the United States, after that what else could they possibly do that would undo the harm they created by altering the Constitution? What else would be more important to vote for than the SAFE GUARD of our Foundation and principles. NOTHING, might just as well move to Canada.....

[mym1a]

I don't know if some ones religion alone would make him a good/bad president? his policy on many issues does concern me tho? which camp keeps bringing up his middle name, his family back ground and alleged cocaine use ????

I believe peace requires both participants to take an active role in comming up with an equitable solution, anything else would be surrender???Chamberland, Kennedy SR. all tryed this close to 70 years ago! anyone study history??? going to canada will get you a trip back to the usa? only the usa is required to accept refuges,reguardless of what damage it causes to this country!

Time will tell? obama clinton mccain romney I don't see any difference with the end result! one thing to remeber they all love gun owners and kissing babies with dirty diapers this time of year!!!!

Originally Posted by LarryO1970

Unfortunately, politicians will say anything to be elected. Look at their voting records to know ... unfortunately, it will not be for sure.

So far, I have not found a single Democrat supporting the 2nd Amendment...

Anybody?

Zellm Miller but hes out of the picture

[rasterman77]

Originally Posted by Wingwiper

Well Voting for a candidate that is willing to change the very fundamental core of the United States, after that what else could they possibly do that would undo the harm they created by altering the Constitution? What else would be more important to vote for than the SAFE GUARD of our Foundation and principles. NOTHING, might just as well move to Canada.....

Agreed, notice I said "soley", with luck you sift through to find a mate/prez with more than 1 redeemable quality!!
Hey, your welcome to come up here whenever you want ( I'll even buy you a pint of Molson Canadian, EH!)but there might be too much hunting and fishing here than you can handle..LOL

[mym1a]

Originally Posted by troy2000

Not for me it isn't. There's no point in electing someone who's going to leave us our guns, while they quietly and methodically dismantle the other nine parts of the Bill of Rights.

yes troy i would much rather stand naked in a ditch when they shoot me as opposed to having a fighting chance???with the elemination of the 1st and 2nd I guess we made there job easier? sheeple I guess its human nature to take the easy way out justifying in ones mind the actions they take against you?????