Hillary or Obama? Is the US ready for either?

lorcin25 · 02-06-2008, 03:54 PM

First and foremost, please do not take offense to this post. It is a legitimate question. I am not sexist nor racist. Please take the question for face value:

Do you think the United States is ready for an African-American or a female president?

The_Patriot · 02-06-2008, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorcin25

First and foremost, please do not take offense to this post. It is a legitimate question. I am not sexist nor racist. Please take the question for face value:

Do you think the United States is ready for an African-American or a female president?

Yes.

Just not either of these two (my opinion).

ArkansasHunter · 02-06-2008, 04:03 PM

Is the U.S. ready ? The South is not...A.H

tlarkin · 02-06-2008, 04:06 PM

I would hope so that we have progressed enough as a nation and as human beings to accept a non white and/or woman president. We preach equal rights, but do we really practice them?

cetmedog · 02-06-2008, 04:11 PM

The Patriot said it right, just not these two.

Mooseman684 · 02-06-2008, 04:11 PM

They are Both LAWYERS...Are we ready for one of those scum sucking bottom feeders to be President ??
Not Me !

tlarkin · 02-06-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

They are Both LAWYERS...Are we ready for one of those scum sucking bottom feeders to be President ??
Not Me !

Um, do you know how many lawyers are in politics? Over half most likely.

ArkansasHunter · 02-06-2008, 04:17 PM

NOT ME either !!!

Mooseman684 · 02-06-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

Um, do you know how many lawyers are in politics? Over half most likely.

And THAT"S what is wrong with our Government !
They are trained to argue, lie, cheat and steal...
Conceal Facts and twist Reality while lining their pockets...Sound Familiar ???

BunnyWabbit · 02-06-2008, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlarkin

I would hope so that we have progressed enough as a nation and as human beings to accept a non white and/or woman president. We preach equal rights, but do we really practice them?

Hitlary's not a woman, she thinks she has testicles.

I'm not fond of either of them.

tlarkin · 02-06-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

And THAT"S what is wrong with our Government !
They are trained to argue, lie, cheat and steal...
Conceal Facts and twist Reality while lining their pockets...Sound Familiar ???

They were doing that before our court systems were even in place. Every government is about self interest in every modern nation which is non socialist. Its not a trait of a profession, its a trait of a human being.

lorcin25 · 02-06-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BunnyWabbit

Hitlary's not a woman, she thinks she has testicles.

I'm not fond of either of them.

Either candidate or either testicle?????

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

Its not a trait of a profession, its a trait of a human being.

Sounds like sin nature to me!

tlarkin · 02-06-2008, 04:53 PM

Can you all, calmly and maturely describe what is wrong with Hillary and Obama? Why aren't we ready, and do you think that the Republican canidates are actually better, and why?

lorcin25 · 02-06-2008, 04:57 PM

I think all of the candidates lack a backbone.

KGunner · 02-06-2008, 05:00 PM

I am not ready for the huge scale of socialism they both support. Whenever you hear something like "For the greater good" it usually means we all pay and reap little reward, if any. Obama has NO experience, and Hillary might as well not. Want to see how good she is lawmaking? Look at the New York public school system, by far the WORST in the entire nation, one of the worst public school systems of any industrialized nation. She contributed to that, no doubt about it. Sure Obama is a great speaker and charismatic, but he has been campaigning longer than he has been a senator. Has he accomplished anything of any significance? No. They both have NO foreign policy experience at all. I don't care if Hillary did spend 8 years in the white house, so do the maids and cooks and all them people. I am actually scared that either of them will be elected, I am down right frightened. I don't see it as black or white or man or woman, I see it on a political plane, and neither of them are any good at anything besides campaigning.

troy2000 · 02-06-2008, 05:13 PM

I'm not touching this one, lorcin25. I'm due for a rest...

Rave · 02-06-2008, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorcin25

First and foremost, please do not take offense to this post. It is a legitimate question. I am not sexist nor racist. Please take the question for face value:
Do you think the United States is ready for an African-American or a female president?

That is precisely the problem,one is on the defensive by merely asking a question,PC over rules logic every time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Is the U.S. ready ? The South is not...A.H

Ah,someone who has risen above the overwhealming problem in this country,PC!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlarkin

I would hope so that we have progressed enough as a nation and as human beings to accept a non white and/or woman president. We preach equal rights, but do we really practice them?

Just because someone has the right to be president does not mean that somebody should be!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

They are Both LAWYERS...Are we ready for one of those scum sucking bottom feeders to be President ??
Not Me !

Ah,another riseing above the PC problem!

Bravo · 02-06-2008, 05:24 PM

A professor in an Engineering class that I recently took made the statement:

To show what's wrong with our Government, and why China is doing so well, look at it like this: Most of our Government is comprised of lawyers. Most of China's government is comprised of Engineers, Scientists, and Doctors...

Rave · 02-06-2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

And THAT"S what is wrong with our Government !
They are trained to argue, lie, cheat and steal...
Conceal Facts and twist Reality while lining their pockets...Sound Familiar ???

Yup,it do sound familiar said the mushroom from the murkey darkness where he is fed BS as a steady diet!

The_Patriot · 02-06-2008, 05:26 PM

You know, while I'm at it, I'd like to make two more points on this topic.

1) It's interesting to me how so many folks in Washington (and elsewhere in politics) ARE spineless. I've seen one after another paraded on TV, talking about the nominations, but won't take a stand and back one. I saw the Gooood Rev. Sharpton saying he needs more time to hear from both Dem candidates. WHAT? More time? No, he needs more time to see who's going to get the nomination; he doesn't want to be seen as backing the losing horse. And where is Al Gore? Is he off inventing another internet? He's been quiet recently. He doesn't want to endorse anyone for the same reason. As soon as there's a winner, he'll be out blabbing in support of the nomination and is global warming bunk. There are more in the same boat. As soon as there's a clear nomination, they'll come out of the woodwork saying how great the winner is. Totally spineless. Liars, the bunch of 'em. No integrity whatsoever.

2) You know who else wants the Dems to win? The terrorists around the globe. I think the comparative safety in Iraq has not been entirely due to the surge, but a decision by terror groups to calm it down leading up to our election. I think this was done on purpose. They don't want someone strong on defense in office. They want it off the front pages as they know Americans can't remember past last Friday.

Anyone?

02-06-2008, 03:54 PM	#1
lorcin25 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 291	Hillary or Obama? Is the US ready for either? First and foremost, please do not take offense to this post. It is a legitimate question. I am not sexist nor racist. Please take the question for face value: Do you think the United States is ready for an African-American or a female president?

02-06-2008, 04:11 PM	#6
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,572 Images: 2	They are Both LAWYERS...Are we ready for one of those scum sucking bottom feeders to be President ?? Not Me ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-06-2008, 05:13 PM	#16
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,026 Images: 9	I'm not touching this one, lorcin25. I'm due for a rest... __________________ I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said. WF Buckley, Jr

02-06-2008, 05:26 PM	#20
The_Patriot Right Wing Nutjob Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Behind Enemy Lines...Ohio..GO BLUE! Posts: 542	You know, while I'm at it, I'd like to make two more points on this topic. 1) It's interesting to me how so many folks in Washington (and elsewhere in politics) ARE spineless. I've seen one after another paraded on TV, talking about the nominations, but won't take a stand and back one. I saw the Gooood Rev. Sharpton saying he needs more time to hear from both Dem candidates. WHAT? More time? No, he needs more time to see who's going to get the nomination; he doesn't want to be seen as backing the losing horse. And where is Al Gore? Is he off inventing another internet? He's been quiet recently. He doesn't want to endorse anyone for the same reason. As soon as there's a winner, he'll be out blabbing in support of the nomination and is global warming bunk. There are more in the same boat. As soon as there's a clear nomination, they'll come out of the woodwork saying how great the winner is. Totally spineless. Liars, the bunch of 'em. No integrity whatsoever. 2) You know who else wants the Dems to win? The terrorists around the globe. I think the comparative safety in Iraq has not been entirely due to the surge, but a decision by terror groups to calm it down leading up to our election. I think this was done on purpose. They don't want someone strong on defense in office. They want it off the front pages as they know Americans can't remember past last Friday. Anyone? __________________ "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Tom Paine 1776

02-06-2008, 04:03 PM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,998	Is the U.S. ready ? The South is not...A.H

02-06-2008, 04:06 PM	#4
tlarkin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,957	I would hope so that we have progressed enough as a nation and as human beings to accept a non white and/or woman president. We preach equal rights, but do we really practice them?

02-06-2008, 04:11 PM	#5
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129	The Patriot said it right, just not these two.

02-06-2008, 04:17 PM	#8
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,998	NOT ME either !!!

02-06-2008, 04:53 PM	#13
tlarkin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,957	Can you all, calmly and maturely describe what is wrong with Hillary and Obama? Why aren't we ready, and do you think that the Republican canidates are actually better, and why?

02-06-2008, 04:57 PM	#14
lorcin25 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 291	I think all of the candidates lack a backbone.

02-06-2008, 05:00 PM	#15
KGunner Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 521 Blog Entries: 5	I am not ready for the huge scale of socialism they both support. Whenever you hear something like "For the greater good" it usually means we all pay and reap little reward, if any. Obama has NO experience, and Hillary might as well not. Want to see how good she is lawmaking? Look at the New York public school system, by far the WORST in the entire nation, one of the worst public school systems of any industrialized nation. She contributed to that, no doubt about it. Sure Obama is a great speaker and charismatic, but he has been campaigning longer than he has been a senator. Has he accomplished anything of any significance? No. They both have NO foreign policy experience at all. I don't care if Hillary did spend 8 years in the white house, so do the maids and cooks and all them people. I am actually scared that either of them will be elected, I am down right frightened. I don't see it as black or white or man or woman, I see it on a political plane, and neither of them are any good at anything besides campaigning.

02-06-2008, 05:24 PM	#18
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 2,022	A professor in an Engineering class that I recently took made the statement: To show what's wrong with our Government, and why China is doing so well, look at it like this: Most of our Government is comprised of lawyers. Most of China's government is comprised of Engineers, Scientists, and Doctors...