Washington is killing us !

ArkansasHunter · 06-04-2008, 12:02 PM

I was just watching C-Span and a young Senater was admonishimg his fellow Senaters about legislation they passed 2 week's ago Banning Oil production in the Oil shell in and around Colorado 2 weeks ago.

Did anybody here, hear about this ?

He also brought up that the Military wanted to change over to synthectic fuels.
And they voted NO to that !

He also said the American people want Oil production in Alaska and off shore and the majority of you have said NO to that !

He also said the majority here favors the importation of Oil from over sea's.

He ran out of time and had to sit down.

What's yalls take on this ? Mine is to clean house in Washington, DC.

I'll stop here before I get nasty !!!

TXplt · 06-04-2008, 12:06 PM

I agree 100+, AH !!!!!

It's time to clean house and vote 'em out. We need to build nukes, we need to drill everywhere, we need to exploit renewables, we need to burn coal to tide us over--if anyone disagrees with this (or promotes gun control in any way) OUT THEY GO !

What have we gotten from them ? Debt, Taxes, and Record High Prices. Words don't put gas in their tanks.

If I was Sarah, I'd give the green light to drilling in AK right now and say screw the feds. Let 'em try and stop me. $2/gal gas in AK would go far to having the residents throw the EPA out.

ArkansasHunter · 06-04-2008, 01:05 PM

I wonder if we have the equipment to drill for Oil ? It looks like were doomed in regards to high prices we pay at the pump.

Thats what pizz'es me off !!! Weve had 30 years to break our dependentcy and now look whats happening !!!

They need there Nards cut off !

mym1a · 06-04-2008, 01:08 PM

does anyone with an once of common sence believe these politicians have the best interests of this country???????????????????/ to properly fit into the globalization sceme doesn't this country have to be reduced to that of a 3rd world country???????

ArkansasHunter · 06-04-2008, 01:09 PM

Not I said the Little Red Hen !!! We are up a creek !!!

Mooseman684 · 06-04-2008, 02:01 PM

What I want to know is How Long before we Lock and Load and head to Washington to clean House ???
If you people aren't calling your Senators and Congressmen Raising Hell since they represent YOU...Then Quit complaining !
This Country is In Trouble NOW !!! We can't wait 10 years for more Oil, we will all be broke and or Homeless if the Democrats stay in office...

cremley · 06-04-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TXplt

I agree 100+, AH !!!!!

It's time to clean house and vote 'em out. We need to build nukes, we need to drill everywhere, we need to exploit renewables, we need to burn coal to tide us over--if anyone disagrees with this (or promotes gun control in any way) OUT THEY GO !

What have we gotten from them ? Debt, Taxes, and Record High Prices. Words don't put gas in their tanks.

If I was Sarah, I'd give the green light to drilling in AK right now and say screw the feds. Let 'em try and stop me. $2/gal gas in AK would go far to having the residents throw the EPA out.

Nukes? what a pointless waste of money! There is no need for any more nukes. even if we stopped decommissioning them we would still have too many. and why oil? it is time to stop using oil to burn. it is a limited recourse you know, and without it, plastics would be non-existent. It is great that the gas is high, people in this country are finally forced to use alternative forms of energy. Oil is a very precious recourse, why would we want to drill it and burn it? I do agree with you on getting those lawyers out of the capitol. we need to start limiting government and get businessmen back in there.

nathangdad · 06-04-2008, 02:26 PM

seems to be shared by many others - in each race she plans to vote against the incumbent.

I feel millions share her disgust and dissatisfation with our current crop of elected officials.

samuel · 06-04-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

I wonder if we have the equipment to drill for Oil ? It looks like were doomed in regards to high prices we pay at the pump.

Thats what pizz'es me off !!! Weve had 30 years to break our dependentcy and now look whats happening !!!

They need there Nards cut off !

If you have any doubts about equipment,just go outside of Odessa,Texas.I don't know about now but there used to be miles of equipment just sitting out there.It may have been scrapped out but I bet they could find plenty someplace. sam.

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

What I want to know is How Long before we Lock and Load and head to Washington to clean House ???
If you people aren't calling your Senators and Congressmen Raising Hell since they represent YOU...Then Quit complaining !
This Country is In Trouble NOW !!! We can't wait 10 years for more Oil, we will all be broke and or Homeless if the Democrats stay in office...

That is virtually a daily routine for me.I hope others are doing the same.I usually get an answer,even if it doesn't make sense. sam.

TXplt · 06-04-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cremley

Nukes? what a pointless waste of money! There is no need for any more nukes. even if we stopped decommissioning them we would still have too many. and why oil? it is time to stop using oil to burn. it is a limited recourse you know, and without it, plastics would be non-existent. It is great that the gas is high, people in this country are finally forced to use alternative forms of energy. Oil is a very precious recourse, why would we want to drill it and burn it? I do agree with you on getting those lawyers out of the capitol. we need to start limiting government and get businessmen back in there.

With all respect, this is so incredibly wrong. -- other than getting the lawyers out and limiting government.

Mooseman684 · 06-04-2008, 02:40 PM

I think he Meant Nuclear POWER Plants !!!!LOL

TXplt · 06-04-2008, 02:40 PM

Nukes are the only thing that can pull us out of this mess in the long run !!!!!!!. Nuclear breeders now, then fusion in a few years. The uranium-thorium or uranium-plutonium cycle even conservatively can give us power for a couple hundred of years at a reasonable cost.

It's a clean safe energy source.

We shoulda been building them since the 70's; europe and japan even exploit the technology extensively.

samuel · 06-04-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nathangdad

seems to be shared by many others - in each race she plans to vote against the incumbent.

I feel millions share her disgust and dissatisfation with our current crop of elected officials.

I always hate to hear this.We should research how an encumbent votes.We may be voting against someone with our best intrests and for someone that will oppose our intrests.nra/ila has voting records on most candidates and you can go to their own website and find out how they voted in congress or the state for that matter.Condemnation without research,or voting without informing ourselves is how we got in this mess and how we stay in it and keep voting the same ones or someone just like them back in. sam.

killer · 06-04-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Did anybody here, hear about this ?

I heard about it on talk radio. That and the Internet are the only places I get my news...rarely watch TV.

We need to get their attention

but I'm pretty fed up with them. Both parties are doing it to us. They want us to go green. I'm tired of fighting them, I decided to join them and I have a new web site. The Lieberman-Warner bill being discussed today in the Senate (or one like it) will sooner or later force a "green tax" on energy use. It's coming.

Companies will be forced to pay others who use less energy and or leave less of a carbon foot print. I've named my new company:

"Global Warming Carbon Footprints" - Got both the global warming thing and carbon footprint slang thrown in the name.

Me and my buddies will sit around in my cabin which has no electricity and no running water. We have to use an outhouse and or relieve ourselves in the woods. Companies wil be forced to pay carbon taxes and they can donate their "green" carbon dollars to us. We'll even go out to our tree stands and sit all day doing nothing. We'll be darn near zero with our carbon footprint.

GlobalWarmingCarbonFootprints.com ...Check it out

I'm serious guys....I'm going green.

Mooseman684 · 06-04-2008, 03:04 PM

I'm turning Green tooo....I'm getting sick to my stomach over this BS !!!

GlockMeister · 06-04-2008, 03:16 PM

Well C'mon. They recently put the flipping polar bear on the threatened list or some crap like that. All in an attempt to block oil drilling in the arctic. Problem there is, Russia and anyone else not associated with the US can drill for oil as this doesn't affect them nor do they have to abide by it.

The thing Glenn Beck spoke of was that back when there were something like only 5000 polar bears, no one did anything. Now there's the interest in drilling oil up there, there's something like 25,000 polar bears and they put it on the threatened list. And this is the very first time it's ever been done in regards to climate change. Yes, that's right. That's the kicker. It was done in the name of protecting climate change or some crap like that. Here's a link to Glenn Beck transcript on oil drilling and polar bears.

Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - Glenn Beck: Plasma's for Polar Bears

Here's a couple quotes from that transcript.

"Polar bear population in 1972 was 5,000. Polar bear population today is 25,000. Seems to me if you're going on the Endangered Species Act, you should probably be dwindling in numbers, not going up."

"So if they can get the polar bear onto the Endangered Species Act, then they can say, you can't drill up in the Arctic, you can't drill in Canada, you can't drill in Alaska because you'll hurt the polar bear."

Seems someone is always shooting us in our own foot, preventing us from becoming self-sufficient and less reliant on others for what we need.

cremley · 06-04-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TXplt

Nukes are the only thing that can pull us out of this mess in the long run !!!!!!!. Nuclear breeders now, then fusion in a few years. The uranium-thorium or uranium-plutonium cycle even conservatively can give us power for a couple hundred of years at a reasonable cost.

It's a clean safe energy source.

We shoulda been building them since the 70's; europe and japan even exploit the technology extensively.

Oooo! sorry, I thought you were talking about nuclear warheads. No, I totally agree with building nuclear power plants. they are extremely efficient and there is almost no chance of a nuclear meltdown. they were even relatively safe in the 70's. I am still keeping my opinion on oil though.

AKHunter · 06-04-2008, 04:09 PM

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My wife's strategy for this fall . . .
seems to be shared by many others - in each race she plans to vote against the incumbent.

I feel millions share her disgust and dissatisfation with our current crop of elected officials.

I have been doing that the last 2 cycles, it seems though I must be the only one. The incumbents continue to win.

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"Polar bear population in 1972 was 5,000. Polar bear population today is 25,000. Seems to me if you're going on the Endangered Species Act, you should probably be dwindling in numbers, not going up."

The same group that sued over that listing and forced the issue , has filed suit for listing the walrus and the bearded (i think it is) seal. The ball is just begining to roll !

TXplt · 06-04-2008, 05:10 PM

No worries, dude.....

ArkansasHunter · 06-04-2008, 05:53 PM

I mentioned the U.S. Military wanted to convert to synthectic fuels.........

They said derived from coal, which we have plenty of. Washington said NOPE !

This frigg'in Green tax is total B.S. because who will end up paying it ? We Will !
And too we could loose more industry to other countrys.

Nuclear Power Plants would put some people to work, which is good BUT the cost to build them is alot and the consumer will pay for it.
Because I've paid for one that was built in Missisippi and I live in Arkansas !!! Fugg that !!!

If the sorry azz Goverment would pay for them then I'm fine with it !!!

Yes I'm a little perturbd (did i spell that right ?) Unless Oil comes down we'll be eatting grass soon like Cows ~!!! MOOoo

06-04-2008, 12:02 PM	#1
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,998	Washington is killing us ! I was just watching C-Span and a young Senater was admonishimg his fellow Senaters about legislation they passed 2 week's ago Banning Oil production in the Oil shell in and around Colorado 2 weeks ago. Did anybody here, hear about this ? He also brought up that the Military wanted to change over to synthectic fuels. And they voted NO to that ! He also said the American people want Oil production in Alaska and off shore and the majority of you have said NO to that ! He also said the majority here favors the importation of Oil from over sea's. He ran out of time and had to sit down. What's yalls take on this ? Mine is to clean house in Washington, DC. I'll stop here before I get nasty !!!

06-04-2008, 12:06 PM	#2
TXplt Conservative in Exile Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 3,194 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	I agree 100+, AH !!!!! It's time to clean house and vote 'em out. We need to build nukes, we need to drill everywhere, we need to exploit renewables, we need to burn coal to tide us over--if anyone disagrees with this (or promotes gun control in any way) OUT THEY GO ! What have we gotten from them ? Debt, Taxes, and Record High Prices. Words don't put gas in their tanks. If I was Sarah, I'd give the green light to drilling in AK right now and say screw the feds. Let 'em try and stop me. $2/gal gas in AK would go far to having the residents throw the EPA out. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

06-04-2008, 02:01 PM	#6
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,572 Images: 2	What I want to know is How Long before we Lock and Load and head to Washington to clean House ??? If you people aren't calling your Senators and Congressmen Raising Hell since they represent YOU...Then Quit complaining ! This Country is In Trouble NOW !!! We can't wait 10 years for more Oil, we will all be broke and or Homeless if the Democrats stay in office... __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

06-04-2008, 02:40 PM	#11
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,572 Images: 2	I think he Meant Nuclear POWER Plants !!!!LOL __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

06-04-2008, 02:40 PM	#12
TXplt Conservative in Exile Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 3,194 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	Nukes are the only thing that can pull us out of this mess in the long run !!!!!!!. Nuclear breeders now, then fusion in a few years. The uranium-thorium or uranium-plutonium cycle even conservatively can give us power for a couple hundred of years at a reasonable cost. It's a clean safe energy source. We shoulda been building them since the 70's; europe and japan even exploit the technology extensively. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas Last edited by TXplt; 06-04-2008 at 02:44 PM.

06-04-2008, 01:05 PM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,998	I wonder if we have the equipment to drill for Oil ? It looks like were doomed in regards to high prices we pay at the pump. Thats what pizz'es me off !!! Weve had 30 years to break our dependentcy and now look whats happening !!! They need there Nards cut off !

06-04-2008, 01:08 PM	#4
mym1a Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,313	does anyone with an once of common sence believe these politicians have the best interests of this country???????????????????/ to properly fit into the globalization sceme doesn't this country have to be reduced to that of a 3rd world country???????

06-04-2008, 01:09 PM	#5
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,998	Not I said the Little Red Hen !!! We are up a creek !!!

06-04-2008, 02:26 PM	#8
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,925	My wife's strategy for this fall . . . seems to be shared by many others - in each race she plans to vote against the incumbent. I feel millions share her disgust and dissatisfation with our current crop of elected officials.

06-04-2008, 03:04 PM	#15
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,572 Images: 2	I'm turning Green tooo....I'm getting sick to my stomach over this BS !!! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

06-04-2008, 03:16 PM	#16
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,292	Well C'mon. They recently put the flipping polar bear on the threatened list or some crap like that. All in an attempt to block oil drilling in the arctic. Problem there is, Russia and anyone else not associated with the US can drill for oil as this doesn't affect them nor do they have to abide by it. The thing Glenn Beck spoke of was that back when there were something like only 5000 polar bears, no one did anything. Now there's the interest in drilling oil up there, there's something like 25,000 polar bears and they put it on the threatened list. And this is the very first time it's ever been done in regards to climate change. Yes, that's right. That's the kicker. It was done in the name of protecting climate change or some crap like that. Here's a link to Glenn Beck transcript on oil drilling and polar bears. Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - Glenn Beck: Plasma's for Polar Bears Here's a couple quotes from that transcript. "Polar bear population in 1972 was 5,000. Polar bear population today is 25,000. Seems to me if you're going on the Endangered Species Act, you should probably be dwindling in numbers, not going up." "So if they can get the polar bear onto the Endangered Species Act, then they can say, you can't drill up in the Arctic, you can't drill in Canada, you can't drill in Alaska because you'll hurt the polar bear." Seems someone is always shooting us in our own foot, preventing us from becoming self-sufficient and less reliant on others for what we need. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

06-04-2008, 05:10 PM	#19
TXplt Conservative in Exile Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 3,194 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	No worries, dude..... __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

06-04-2008, 05:53 PM	#20
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,998	I mentioned the U.S. Military wanted to convert to synthectic fuels......... They said derived from coal, which we have plenty of. Washington said NOPE ! This frigg'in Green tax is total B.S. because who will end up paying it ? We Will ! And too we could loose more industry to other countrys. Nuclear Power Plants would put some people to work, which is good BUT the cost to build them is alot and the consumer will pay for it. Because I've paid for one that was built in Missisippi and I live in Arkansas !!! Fugg that !!! If the sorry azz Goverment would pay for them then I'm fine with it !!! Yes I'm a little perturbd (did i spell that right ?) Unless Oil comes down we'll be eatting grass soon like Cows ~!!! MOOoo Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 06-04-2008 at 05:56 PM.