.270 vs 7mm-08

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  1. oneshot25

    oneshot25 G&G Newbie

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    :33:What do you think is better and why? Do you have any personal experiences with either of these?
  2. WLew

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    Oneshot, I wouldn't say that one is "better" than the other, they're just different. Just for comparison the 270 will shoot a 140 grain bullet about 3000fps while a 7mm-08 will only give about 2700fps with a 140 grain bullet. If you don't reload the 7mm-08 ammo may be hard to find in your area whereas you can pick up 270 ammo in about any town in N.A. Some folks prefer the 7-08 because of the short action and the relitively light recoil and others prefer the 270 because it shoots flatter and carries more energy farther downrange. I am in the latter category. They are both excellent rounds for anything up to about 400lbs and both will get the job done on much bigger game with the proper bullets and proper bullet placement. It basically boils down to personal preference. Hope this helps.
  3. Piper-T

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    yeah I agree, these are both good rounds. If you want someone to help you decide then ill give you what i know.I have shot both of these cartidges and have killed game with both. I shot coyotes with both of these and the first was with a 7mm-08.it was probably 150-175 yrd shot with a model 7 with a 4 power leupold.It was my buddies gun and i hit the coyote high above the hip in the back wounding him. then we luckily were able to get the coyote after a much closer and better placed shot.i would have killed him and this could have been done if i would have took my time and waited.then last year i shot a coyote at around the same distance with a .270 win 130 gr power points. complete pass thru and i hit him right tight behind the shoulder. he didnt drop he ran and i thought i mssed him, i went over there ad found him dead.exit wound wasnt much larger than a dime.it didnt expad at all on him it should have dropped him like a sack of spuds.these are both good rounds i would pick the 7mm-08 cuz its bigger thats why its gonna fly a litle bit slower.I mean caliber size is .284 and 270 is .277. so what, its moving fast enough to kill and these are good shooters.
  4. FJ-500

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    Totally agree with you guys.
    The .270 is a very good cartridge. I've owned and used rifles in this cal, and cannot find a bad thing to say about it. I usually used 130 grain projectiles.

    Never owned or hunted with the 7mm-08.
    I have however, used a cartridge similar to this, for about 10 years. It also works very well on medium size game. (7x65R loaded with 160 grain projectiles)
  5. nathangdad

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    Well,

    the .243 Winchester and the 7mm/08 are my two favorite cartridges.
    I really like the accuracy of the 7mm/08 combined with moderate recoil.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with the .270 Winchester as it has proven a winner on deer for decades.

    So, perhaps personal preference leads me to the 7mm/08.

    Honestly, either cartridge will take your deer.

    You can't lose.
  6. zxpilot

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    Handloaded the .270 will push the 140 gr to 3000fps the 7-08 will pusha 139 gr to 2900 fps.
    Pretty close there
    The 7-08 loaded with 120 gr BT is actually flatter shooting than the .270 with 130 gr.


    The 7-08 ammo is hard to find though
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  7. Tack Driver

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    It basically comes down to whether you like a long action or short action rifle.
  8. WLew

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    That's B.S. on the 120 gr 7-08 shooting flatter than a 130 gr 270. Sighted in at 250 yards and pushing their respective bullets to 3200 fps the 130 grain 270 bullet drops 13.2" at 400 yards while the 120 grain 7-08 drops 14.5". These numbers come straight from The Best of the West True Ballistics Calculator using Barnes TSX Bt bullets in each caliber. You need to get your facts straight before posting. Besides the fact that actually getting 3200 fps out of a 120 gr 7-08 is unlikely without running into pressure issues while getting that out of a 130 gr 270 is usually no problem in most rifles.
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    Wow, it shoots one whole inch flatter! I doubt it would make a difference in the real world.
  10. zxpilot

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    according to nosler manual #6 hottest loads in both
    7-08 120 gr bt 3262 fps
    270 130 gr bt 3158 fps

    you crunch the numbers

    7-08 is flatter

    and I do run that load through my 7-08 it is slightly hot, so I backed off 1/2 a grain
    or I can seat slightly more. still playing with it

    calm down , breath through your nose
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  11. WLew

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    Yeah it's only one inch and wouldn't make a damn bit of difference and that's the point. He talked like it was a big difference in favor of the 7-08 when in fact there's basically no difference. They will both get the job done and a deer wouldn't know which one you hit him with!! [​IMG]
  12. WLew

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    Yeah ZX, and you could look in another manual and get different numbers. It still basically boils down to personal preferance.
  13. gunone296

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    It boils down to personal preference. Both are balistically similar and as previosly stated no deer could tell the difference. As for shooting deer over 300 yards, only experienced shooters who have practiced at those distances should do this, and then only with proper bullet design and enough remaining velocity to produce terminal damage.

    IMHO is there is less felt recoil with the 7-08
  14. zxpilot

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    never said there was world of difference.
    and yes the .7-08 does kick less, but a .270 is not known to be a mule either.
    I reload so the 7-08 was my choice.
    loaded with a 162 grain A max (.625 bc) you have a match gun for paper to a 1000 yds, .308 cant hang.
  15. WLew

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    zx, what kinda groups and velocities you getting outta those 162's? I've got an Encore in 7-08 I've been thinking about trying some heavier bullets in just for kicks.
  16. zxpilot

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    never even tried them.
    i have only owned a 7-08 for a couple of months.
    the book says 2715-2725 for the 162 gr
    this gun did a 3 shot group at just under 3/4 at 200 yds with both 120,s and 139,s





    I have always heard great thing about the 7-08, glad I went that way

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  17. ArkansasHunter

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    I would'nt have either one !!! LOL I'm happy with the 308 LOL I'm just fun'in around.
    I'll leave before I get beat up....................................................................A.H
  18. stinkybriches

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    you can get awsome target bullets in 7mm. the 7mm08 was i believe made just for that purpose. but, eventually SAMMI will dumb it down
    like it has other cartriges, and it wont hold a candle to the .270 as far as
    power goes. its already overpowered by the .270, and its at its peak.
    that being said, ive never heard anyone say anything negative about it,
    either in person or online, unless its been a discussion like this one, comparing the virtues of one cartrige to another.
  19. samuel

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    Why are you bringing that .308 up when you know if I ever get this new .300-.600NE built up and fire bullets so fast a chrono won't record that high and when I shoot a game animal it not only kills it in one shot,but wipes half of its relatives out too.And you talk a dinky .308!!! (Of course this is just in R&D,I havn't built it yet) ,,,sam.
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    when your done with that you should neck down a .50 bmg to .25 for me:banana:.
    i bet that would move:slomo:
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