44 Automag for Sale

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  1. chriskat

    chriskat G&G Newbie

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    It you are interested I have listed my second Automag on Gunbroker item number 157337312.

    Thanks for looking.

    Jeff
  2. LeftHandShooter

    LeftHandShooter G&G Enthusiast

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    Post a link, It might get a little more interest. I'd love to own that but....
    What was the third one you are keeping?
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  3. LeftHandShooter

    LeftHandShooter G&G Enthusiast

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    Does this qualify as a C&R pistol?
  4. chriskat

    chriskat G&G Newbie

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    Link is below:

    44 Automag TDE El Monte : Curios and Relics at GunBroker.com

    Yes they qualify as C&R. The one I am keeping is an AMT. It has a solid bolt and the "pin" (I dont' know if that's the correct term but it's what I'd call it) is welded in place. I don't know if that's right or not, so I don't know how it would sell.

    Thanks for looking.

    Jeff
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    Beautiful gun.
  6. LeftHandShooter

    LeftHandShooter G&G Enthusiast

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    Are you certain? I thought C&R was firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof.

    I'd go read 10.1.4 The Firearms Curios or Relics List (ATF P 5300.11) before shipping to a C&R holder. Would hate to have you end up in jail.

    http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-11/atf-p-5300-11.pdf
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    LeftHandShooter G&G Enthusiast

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    SECTION II: Firearms Classified As Curios Or
    Relics Under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44 Page 16

    The list. I do not see your guns on it. Correct me if I'm incorrect, but please include the page number and cut/paste it so I can be certain. I have a C&R holder friend who might be interested but he told me the gun is NOT C&R, but if could be proven it is....
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    SwedeSteve Freedom Zealot Forum Contributor

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    One might could argue it as a curio. But I don't think it would fly !!
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    texnmidwest Sir Loin of Beef Forum Contributor

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    I wouldn't want to argue with the BATF! They have badges, guns, handcuffs and a bunch of ugly ill tempered friends.
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    So do I !! LOL !!
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    Badges?! We don't need no stinkin' badges!
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    Well is sole for $2,176 smackaroos.

    And for the sake of the discussion, it might be "old" enough to be a C&R, but until I see it on the C&R list, I don't think, due to it's desgin, the round and other obvious specifications that it's on the list.


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    Nothing, I know. lmao
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    Cyrano Resident Curmudgeon Forum Contributor

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    My understanding is that if a given firearm is 50 years old from the date of manufacture, it qualifies as a Curio & Relic under the law.

    This means you could, for instance, have a first year of production Winchester Model 70 and a last year before the 1964 redesign Model 70 made in 1963 sitting side by side in the gun rack today. In theory, you could ship the rifle made in 1936 to a C&R licensee and be completely legal; that rifle is over 50 years old. However, if you were to ship the mechanically identical Model 70 from 1963, you would be breaking the law.

    This is why you can look at the BATFE list of approved C&R firearms and find a section that has individual firearms of various kinds listed by serial number. Someone contacted BATFE and asked if that particular gun was C&R legal, and BATFE approved it as such. When in doubt, contact BATFE and politely ask them to verify that the gun you propose to ship is a genuine C&R.
  14. chriskat

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    Sorry I missed all the interest. As it turns out the buyers of both of the Automags I had for sale transferred them through 01 FFL's. Automags are listed, however, on the C&R list on the first page of Section II; page 17 I believe.

    Link to the list on the ATF web site is:

    http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-11/atf-p-5300-11.pdf

    It's almost 6 Gig so if you're on dial up I wouldn't try. Incidentally, I wouldn't want to argue with the ATF either.

    Jeff
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    chriskat G&G Newbie

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    Well, I saved the single page that lists Automags and uploaded it to my Comcast site. But, I can't figure out how to link to a pdf document. I know how to deal with pictures but...

    If anybody can tell me how I'd be happy to post it here.

    Jeff
  16. LeftHandShooter

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    How much did the other one sell for?
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    chriskat G&G Newbie

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    It went for $1325, I was very disappointed. It was a .357 Automag though. Still they usually bring closer to $2K.

    Jeff
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