Considering new deer rifle: Vanguard, HOWA 1500 or TCA Venture

Discussion in 'Deer Hunting' started by melloyello, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. melloyello

    melloyello G&G Regular

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    Hello All,

    I am considering getting a new hunting rifle with a synthetic stock.
    I have destroyed too many wood stocks: up and down the tree stands, pushing through the brush, rain, humidity, etc. Want to use something else besides Remington.

    If you have any experience with these rifles, Weatherby Vanguard, HOWA 1500 or Thompson Center Venture, what are your opinions?
  2. nathangdad

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    Mmmm,

    Howa manufactures the Weatherby Vanguard and either the Howa named gun or the Weatherby named gun is of very high quality. TCA is also a high quality manufacturer. You cannot go wrong on any of these choices.

    However, I advise also checking the new Marlin bolt action rifles as these rifles have received a massive amount of positive magazine articles and posts on this and other forums. They are not so expensive thus for many shooters allowing funds for higher quality scopes.
  3. ChaZam

    ChaZam G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

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    I have Weatherby Vanguard in 270 Win. and I love it. Although the barreled acyion is made by Howa for Weatherby there are differences. The Weartherby has a 24" barrel and a fluted bolt. The Weatherby is in a Bell & Carlson stock. It is available in 15 calibers including a couple of the Weatherby magnum calibers.

    Synthetic | Weatherby.com
  4. melloyello

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    I'm shooting 308 Winchester and like the short actions.
    I checked out Marlin's XS7 and the reviews.
    My shots vary 100 yards was the closest.
    The last few shots have been 300 and 327 yards.
    Marlin is definitely cheaper but don't see much about accuracy.
    Any links?
  5. zxpilot

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    the vanguard howa action is as good as it gets the only other one that can compare is the new winchesters built by FN
  6. Reinhardt

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    Although they are all great firearms, personaly I would go with the TC Venture over the Weatherby and Howa. The TC Venture is made in the U.S.A., the Weatherby is made by Howa in Japan. Being Made in the U.S.A. means ALOT to me, making the desision a easy one for me.
  7. melloyello

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    I did it - Picked up the TC Venture.

    Will post when I get it suited and sighted.
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    what did you get it chambered in?
  9. melloyello

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    Caliber .308 Win
    Barrel Length 24" Fluted Barrel
    Capacity 3 + 1
    Weight 7.5lbs
    Comes with Weaver Base.
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    Does this give you an idea who well a $300 Marlin "X" gun shoots? They will shoot with any gun out there costing 2-3x their price. they are without a doubt the best bolt gun being made in the $300-$600 price range.
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  11. melloyello

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    I'm impresssed!
    Wish I would've see that before...

    Actually, I did look into the Marlin XS7 after Nathangdad mentioned it.
    I figured if the online shops couldn't keep them in stock, then there must be something to them besides price. My local gun shop only carries the traditional lever action rifle of which I have a couple Marlins.
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    Keep your eyes open and you may find one on the rack sometime in the near future. There always seems to be increased demand between Sept. and Dec. so stocks get run out. The move to Illion [Remington's plant] probably doesn't help matters either. I know my local dealer can still get "X" guns thru Jerry's Sportcenter but he also has a few on the shelf.


    Check out the Marlin Owners forum and you'll see alot of guys love the accuracy of their "X" guns.
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    the whole in the top target is a little long for a .1" group.
    its at least twice as long as it is wide. so its gotta be at least .3". just sayin.
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    I know alot of guys like there X rifles, but I heald my buddies 25-06 down in texas, and honostly I like the feel and fit of my vanguard better. Im sure the XL rifles are great guns but I dont know that I would trade my Vanguard for one.
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    You measure across the width of the widest area and then subtract the bullet diameter. That is the standard way group size is measured in benchrest competitions.

    I've had 4 other people measure the target and they all came up with the same .101".
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  16. stinkybriches

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    im not arguing about how to measure a group.
    im saying that the group is way to long to be a .1 inch group.
    its 2-3 times as long as it is tall. which means its a .3-6 inch group, since i assume it was shot with a 30 cal.
  17. Midas

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    The Howa/Vanguard is tough to beat, and that is the one I would probably go with.
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  18. Sir Elwood

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    I prefer my Vanguard to my marlin xs-7, as well. They are two good rifles though.
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