Elli Pietta 44 cal black powder

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  1. Jumpinhigh

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    :feedback: I inherited a Elli pietta 44 cal. Black powder handgun.

    Any information about this gun would be greatly appreciated.
    (value, year made, model)
  2. rebel727

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    Please tell me it's a Paterson with a loading lever and you well sell it me for $250.
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    Please tell me its a

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    Please tell me its a revolver , not a handgun , LOL !!!!
    And when you do , tell me it is a Patterson w/LLever and I will give you $251.00 and pay for shipping . Seeing how they didn't make a .44 caliber Madcratebuilder , I think were both screwed ?

    Boken out :smashfreakB:
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    Ok! Does the cylinder have a strap across the top? Or is it open?

    Is this strap and frame around the cylinder brass colored? Or just black?

    How long is the barrel?

    Are the sights a notch in the hammer, and a front post? Or a grove in the top strap?

    If you can tell us these things, we can help you alot more!

    Better yet pic the revolver on the cabelas page that looks most like your gun.
  6. Jumpinhigh

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    I took the gun to my grandfather's to have him clean it and all to keep it in the excellent condition.

    I don't have a camera to take a pic.

    The top does not have a strap on it. it is open.

    The chamber has an etched in picture of boats I believe. The etching goes all the way around. It also had a patent on the chamber.

    There is brass on the frame and that is in the grip or whatever (sorry don't know gun terms the best)

    Not sure about the sights. Again no top strap over the chamber.

    Chamber is blued I believe this is what it is called, its black or whatever.

    It is a revolver and does have the lever thing.

    This is the one it looks the most like it but it doesn't have as much brass on it.

    1851 Confederate Navy, .44 Caliber Revolver

    the trigger guard is brass and it extends through the middle of the grip.

    Again this is the closet looking one on cabela's but it is still not it.
  7. Kodiak32

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    Try looking at Dixie Gun Works at http://www.dixiegun.com/ . They carry a wider variety than Cabelas.

    Congrats on pistol.

    The lever thing is actually the loading lever, an open top leads towards a colt reproduction.

    The standard 1851 Navy only had brass around the trigger gaurd, the confederates made an 1851 Navy with a brass reciever, they used brass to save materials ( steel ) during the civil war.
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    Only they didn't make them in .44. A .44 1851 Navy is a Pietta fantasy piece that never existed.
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    Does it look like this one?
    [​IMG]
    Notice the round barrel and smooth lines at the loading lever.

    Or does it look like this one.
    [​IMG]
    Without the brass frame.
    The Naval scene on the the cylinder 'should' make it a Navy model. There never was a 'real' Navy .44, that is something the Italian makers came up with.
    Another possible variation.
    [​IMG]
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  10. Kodiak32

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    Guys, I was just trying too let the original poster know that not all 1851 Navies are brass. And yes, while not historically correct Pietta makes .44 caliber in both Brass and Steel frames.

    Here's a link to a .44 1851 Navy steel frame revolver listed at Midway:

    http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Bro...Id=10631&tabId=5&refineSearchKeyword=revolver

    Another Steel frame 1851 Navy .44 at River Juntion:
    http://www.riverjunction.com/catalog/guns/BlackPowder.html

    Elli Pietta US website:
    http://www.pietta.us/products/Muzzleloadinguns/Navy/index.html

    Good pictures madcrate and thanks for the additional infomation Rebel. I guess we wait and see if the original poster has made a match. The Pietta website is probably the best bet, but if the poster can somehow get pictures posted the model of the revolver would be identified fairly quick.
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  11. madcratebuilder

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    That steel frame 51 navy in .44 looks nice.

    No, I well not buy it.

    I well not buy it.

    Well not buy it.

    Not buy it.

    Ah Hell!
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