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1896/11 compared to a 1911 rifle

Discussion in 'Swiss Rifles' started by dogzebra, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. dogzebra

    dogzebra G&G Evangelist

    Were there any discernible changes to the rear tangent leaf sight or base mount between the 1896/11 and 1911 rifles? I can't see any differences myself, but then I've been told that I don't know it all.

    I want to mount an extra pistol scope on my 1896/11 using an S&K scout mount like the one I installed on my 1911. When I asked the S&K rep if their 1911 mount would fit on my 1896/11, she said,"No. What's a 1896/11?" And I didn't have to punch 1 for English.

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  2. ChaZam

    ChaZam G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor


  3. gandog56

    gandog56 G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

  4. dogzebra

    dogzebra G&G Evangelist

    Yes, this link is on my favorites list, but I haven't been able fish out an answer to my question with their info.

    Thanks,

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  5. gandog56

    gandog56 G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

    Well, all I see is 1889/96s were converted to 1896.11s buy replacing or modifying the following:

    It was also the first year they went from quadrant sights to tangent leaf spring. I'm a thinking they would be the same since they both shot the same new GP11 cartridges.
     
  6. Guisan

    Guisan G&G Regular

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    Basically only the receiver and the bolt are 1896, all other parts were replaced or modified to make the rifle look and perform like a 1911 long rifle.

    I've seen your same questions showing up allover the internet and you've got plenty of good answers to them so I suggest that you should do something with that info.

    A pistol scope is designed for a pistol and not for a long rifle, that rifle can do way better as a pistol at longer distances.
     
  7. dogzebra

    dogzebra G&G Evangelist

    Yes I did also post this single, same question, "Were there any discernible changes to the rear tangent leaf sight or base mount between the 1896/11 and 1911 rifles?" over on surplusrifle.com. I thought each of the answers I got were non definitive, if not, somewhat leading.

    I don't care at all for the SP offset styled scope mounts. Their designs strike me as an engineering afterthought.

    Since I already have a long eye relief pistol scope in hand, I guess I'll go with the $82 steel S&K scout mount with steel rings included. My m1911 shoots sub M.O.A., I expect no less from the 96/11, using the same rig.

    Thanks for your efforts guys.

    dz
     
  8. dogzebra

    dogzebra G&G Evangelist

    Since I wasn't willing to purchase another scope base not knowing whether it'd fit or not, I pulled the S&K mount off of my 1911 and it did fit the 96/11.
    So knowing that, I ordered another mount for the 96/11 too.

    Funny side note, the bottom of the new S&K mount is stamped ''96/11''.



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  9. GunnerJacky

    GunnerJacky G&G Newbie

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    There are not enough visible difference in 1896/11 and 1911 rifles. But 1911 rifles are more powerful and accuracy.
     
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