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223 Remington Gun powder Whats best

Discussion in 'General Reloading' started by frank m, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. frank m

    frank m G&G Newbie

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    Thare are alot of Powers listed for use with the 223 remington. Whats the over all best. Power like IMR-3031 IMR-4895 IMR-4320 H-4895 OR
    IS IT Ball Powers like H-322 H-335 Or BLC-2 OR Win 748?????.:feedback:
    I JUST STARTED LOADING FOR My 223rem A little over a YEAR AGO!


     
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  2. billy

    billy G&G Evangelist

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    powders frank not POWERS
     
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  3. nathangdad

    nathangdad G&G Newbie

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    I am not dodging the question but each rifle

    has a bit of differing performance with different bullet/powder combinations. I would advise checking the loading manuals for
    suggestions concerning a target load then making small adjustments up or down until you get a maximum accuracy load.

    It is accuracy you want. Although some will advise for really hot loads giving maximum velocity you should realize this is not always good advice in terms of accuracy potential plus wear out of your bore.

    The .223 Remington has achieved some very outstanding results in rifles from various manufacturers. So, just work at it. You will find the power/bullet/velocity "sweet spot" in time.
     
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  4. Blackrock

    Blackrock G&G Evangelist

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    Auto or Bolt gun makes a big difference. I usually start with a powder that gives me the best case fill for the cartidge I am loading for.
     
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  5. jimkim

    jimkim G&G Enthusiast

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    :scool:Frank has "ball powers" hehehehehehe!!!! The devil made me do it!!!!!
     
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  6. jimkim

    jimkim G&G Enthusiast

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    "Best all-around accurate load I have found, regardless of rifle type or
    barrel twist is to use the Sierra 52-gr. or 53-gr. benchrest bullets
    and 22 grs. of H4198 or IMR4198; or alternately 23.5 grs. of H322, and
    anybody's match primer, in whatever brass you have, but sorted by make
    or arsenal and year. This is not a high velocity load, about 2950 fps
    in the AR-15, but HIGHLY accurate. Shoots well in 7" twist or 12" twist
    barrels. This load was recommended to me by Wally Hart when I started
    shooting benchrest and I have concluded that if a .223 rifle will not
    group with this load, it will not group with ANYTHING! In a full
    blown benchrest rifle, taking GI cases assembled on a Dillon loader,
    with no benchrest tricks whatever, the stuff averaged 1.39" for
    twenty-five consecutive 10-shot groups at 200 meters fired the same
    day, running a round-robin on five different makes of primers. Primer
    make made no difference either! Like CCI450 and Federal 205 best, but
    Winchester WSR is also very good if priced competitively. DO NOT exceed
    this charge with 4198, as this is a fairly fast burning powder for this
    case. As for the H322, this surplus powder varies from batch to batch,
    and while the 23.5 gr. charge suggested to me was a mild load with the
    lot I used, others may run faster, so please be careful." Ed Harris
     
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  7. daniel900

    daniel900 G&G Newbie

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    depends on the gun you have. But 60 V-MAX or 69 MK and N133 does very well. On a good calm day I can I can get 5 shots in the .3 with my savage. Also varget is a great powder and you can get it anywhere. I use it allot with 60Gr and up bullets
     
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  8. wily1

    wily1 G&G Addict Forum Contributor

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    I like Varget in my .223 its given me the best results.
     
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  9. frank m

    frank m G&G Newbie

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    OK SO I Miss spelled POWDER YA GOT Me I didnt say I was a english major But I dont use a mach in a powder mag to find my way out. A bick litter works the best I have ben told. Any way I do use load book`s
    just felt alot of you had year`s working with the 223rem and would know what Powder`s will give the best hope in coming up with a good load I have never used H-322 so Iwill be careful. I do know In small case like the 223rem just a few 10th of a gr can make a load to hot.
    I am useing win cases WIN Primers CCI Primers, Ithink the win may be the best of the two havent tryed fedral primers yet. The only powders
    I have tryed are IMR-4895 IMR-3031 H-335 BLC-2 . H335 seems to be the best so far.Just got the can of BLC-2 And have only loaded a few 53gr hp mach. the group was not all that good. So jimkim I will get some IMR-4198 almost out of H-335. PLEASE MORE INPUT!!!!! THE rifle I have Is a Stevens 200 9to1 twist. O GUN POWDER IS LIKE A( WIFE ) DONT MISS USE IT IF YOU LIKE LIFE AS YOU KNOW IT.
     
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  10. Captain Eddie

    Captain Eddie G&G Newbie

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    Powder for .223 (5.56 NATO)

    A lot of Camp Perry competitors use Accurate's 2520. I use it in .223, .308 and .30.06 because it has a pressure curve compatible with gas operated rifles; i.e. AR-15, M-1A and M-1 Garand.
     
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    gandog56 G&G Evangelist

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    WONDER TWIN POWERS..................ACTIVATE!

    Form of a Dillon 550 press!:09:
     
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    gandog56 G&G Evangelist

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    I use H4895 because it's good for many other calibers.
     
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    gandog56 G&G Evangelist

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    Weird, I hit post only once and it double posted.
     
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  14. GSPKurt

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    I like H322 in my Stevens 200 bolt rifle. I get .3" groups with it.
    My recipe-
    24.0 gr. of H322
    55 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet
    New Winchester brass
    CCI primer
    Seat bullet at .005" off the rifling.
     
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    Frank M, you just answered your on question yourself. You stated that you found the H-335 worked best for you. Why are you asking others and why are you changing powders. What works best for others doesn't mean it will work best for you and your weapon. You said you were almost out of H-335, well go get some more. Take my word for it. I've been loading for 37 years and have three AR-15 I load for. Once YOU find YOUR sweet spot stay with it. Don't be asking strangers.
     
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  16. frank m

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    You know I do get .500 MOA with 40gr Vmax And and 25.5 dose of H335 .
    But I was kinda hopen TO get may be a littler Group like .250 or so. Ya never know.
    Alls I got is A bolt action. A digger at 200 yards is not that big and I dont have a AR-15. With a 20 round mag . This is cal not Texas cant have 20 round mags here.
     
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    Right. Using a powder that's "bulky" enough to fill the case eliminates the danger of double-charging a round. If you try, it spills and you're aware of the mistake instantly, before there's any harm.
     
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  18. big boomer

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    I like 4895 and 2230 but thats just me.
     
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  19. .22guy

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    I use reloder15.
     
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    I'm still working on that "perfect" load for the Winchester 64 grain PP bullet. I am leaning toward the Win 748 powder for the task. (Would like to duplicate the Winchester Supreme loading in this bullet.) The rifles for this load are a Colt HBAR with a 1:7 twist barrel and a S&W M&P M4 with a 1:9 twist barrel. I still have about 10lbs of 2200 left, but want to keep that for plinking rounds in FMJ in 55 grain weights.

    This load will be for southern whitetails. Before anyone says "not enough bullet for deer" I want to qualify the statement in that we hunt strictly on our farm and from established tree stands. So, shots are all at known distances and bullet placement being critical we know the limitations. If I am not absolutely certain I will get a one shot stop, then the trigger is not pulled, no matter the caliber of the firearm, whether handgun or rifle.
    Regards,
    Rich
     
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