I completely disagree in your statement,(there is not a lot of difference in stopping power between a .38 and .45.)When a bullet starts out 1/4 larger and 1.5 times the weight there is a big difference.As to your .40,we ran tests on the .40 and using 165 Gold Dot bullets there was plenty of energy release to stop anyone in normal conditions but the double tap is always advised and serves the purpose well.It takes practice.The .40 is what most LEO,s are carrying and I would have a lot of confidence in it's ability to stop a fight.Thanks for your service to the public and try to have a little more confidence in that .40.I had a friend that stopped an 8point buck in less than 50yds with one shot using GD 165gr bullets and a double lung shot.I never used one for hunting but would have complete confidence in it. sam.The 357 sig is a good caliber but its new and whether or not it takes off remains to be seen.It offers nothing new like the 45gap and may become obselete quickly.
Whats the best cal,This topic comes up in training all of the time,i'll give you my standard answer, there is not a lot of differance in stopping power between a 38 and 45.when good proven bullets are used. Its not the tool its the technition that makes the differance in a gunfight. My first issued gun was a 38,I am now carrying a 40 smith. I had the same confidance with the 38 as I do with the 40 training is the key.
There isn't a pistol round out there that i'll stake my life to with a single round,
if I have to shoot i'll expect to have to hit my attacker with multiple com hits to stop him.
What really convinced me was seeing how high quality 9mm ammo expands compared to the .40 and .45. It was nearly the same.
Nearly the same. Obviously the 9 won't expand to what the .45 does. But we're talking expansion within a couple tenths of an inch, and with the 9mm moving quite a bit faster, and with easier shot placement, it can still be deadly.It was nearly the same. Of course the .45 will make bigger holes
Nearly the same. Obviously the 9 won't expand to what the .45 does. But we're talking expansion within a couple tenths of an inch, and with the 9mm moving quite a bit faster, and with easier shot placement, it can still be deadly.
I wouldn't want to be hit with a 9mm slug...
The 9mm Largo is a fine round and is on a par with the .38 Super if loaded correctly. The problem is that nobody in the U.S. loads for it commercially anymore. CCI had a Blazer loading for a few years but discontinued it due to low sales. Hornady is loading a 9mm Steyr round which is virtually identical, but it is a fmj round and is pretty pricey. If you have a gun in 9mm Largo that will handle it, it is much more cost-effective to modify the gun to accept .38 super ammo, if possible. This entailed about 10 mins. with a file and Dremel on my Star Super. On this gun, it entailed relieving the underside of the upper barrel extension and deepening the notch and narrowing the hook on the extractor. I shot thousands of rounds of full-house +P .38 Super loads through this gun with absolutely zero malfunctions.What about 9mm largo?
I would imagine that reloading 357 sig. would be the way to go. You could play with the loads and tweek them to the gun and get what you want out of them. I just have never been turned on by 9mm. I have a friend that is a Dade county metro cop, that was in a incident where the guy was wigging on crack and LSD took 3 to the chest center mass before he went down. I also have some friends in the military that arent very pleased with it either. 40 is a very good canidate for a carry weapon I was curios about 357 sig. I have always stayed away from 45 because of recoil and I dont have big hands and was never able to get a comfortable grip on the gun especially if was double stacked clip. And if you cant grip it you can hit the broad side of a barn. To my understanding 357 sigs recoil is equivalent to that of the 40. But I dont know personally.If you're looking for a 9mm sized round that is capable of firing heavier bullets at a higher velocity, the .357 Sig would probably be the way to go.