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BFR and the Thunder 5 are chambered in 45 Colt/410 shotshell. As far as I know, all 454 Casull guns can fire 45 Colt as well.

So why is it that we don't see guns chambered for 410, 45 Colt, and 454 Casull all at once?
 

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But couldn't something be made that can fit 454 Casull and 410 shotshell, if it's strong enough for the 454?
 

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A cylinder long enough to handle .410 shotshells but with thick enough chamber walls to handle .454's would be excessively heavy.

That thing about the pressure spike is just retarded. If that were a reason to not make a .454, we wouldn't have .454's.
 

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A cylinder long enough to handle .410 shotshells but with thick enough chamber walls to handle .454's would be excessively heavy.

That thing about the pressure spike is just retarded. If that were a reason to not make a .454, we wouldn't have .454's.
0.454 has intense pressure requiring a tough chamber. .410 requires a long chamber. So far no one has put the two together.
 

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The new .460 S&W Mag fires the .454 and the .45 LC, but I don't think it is long enough to chamber the .410 Shotshells either. It would probably handle the pressure though, but that doesn't change the length issue.
 

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A cylinder long enough to handle .410 shotshells but with thick enough chamber walls to handle .454's would be excessively heavy.

That thing about the pressure spike is just retarded. If that were a reason to not make a .454, we wouldn't have .454's.
that wasnt very nice
 

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Seems to me that a long cylindered 454 would be a good idea to have.
 

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:34:id prolly buy one!
 

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i'd figure ya'll reloaders would make a .410 short somehow. ya'll are creative folk. Wasn't it billy that made fire from snow :silly:

trim the shell down about half an inch and it should work
 

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where's the creativity in that?

that would be fun...lets guess whats going to come out this time... 454 caussel, 45 colt, 45 colt shot shell load it up with all three and give the wheel a spin.

would be a lot cooler if it did take the 2 1/2 shells and get the ones with 000 buckshot
 

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The .410 will not fit in the .460 Smith, one would have to open the chambers wider which would allow too much case expansion in the 454 Casull likely cracking cases.
 

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I've been curious about the Taurus M4510 and rechambering the cylinder for .460 S&W Magnum. Yes, I know the revolver won't handle full-power loads, but maybe it'll handle the cast bullet reduced loads using Trail Boss that Hodgdon lists. A 325gr slug at 900fps ain't no slouch.
 

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with the pressure developed in the .454, driving a bullet about 1" before contacting the forcing cone and then about 1/2" before hitting the riflings might lead to difficulties. sam
 

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But Why A Rechamber?

I've been curious about the Taurus M4510 and rechambering the cylinder for .460 S&W Magnum. Yes, I know the revolver won't handle full-power loads, but maybe it'll handle the cast bullet reduced loads using Trail Boss that Hodgdon lists. A 325gr slug at 900fps ain't no slouch.

One can do that with .45 LC brass but I have serious reservations about the Taurus 4510 as the platform tho I'd like to watch.
 

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Taurus rechambering

Ok, doing the math, I came up with the reduced load generating around 17,000 cup compared with a Hodgdon Ruger/Contender only .45 Colt H110 load with a 325gr bullet that generates 18,300 cup for 1000+ fps.

You're right, this is probably more than the Taurus can handle.
 

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Ok, doing the math, I came up with the reduced load generating around 17,000 cup compared with a Hodgdon Ruger/Contender only .45 Colt H110 load with a 325gr bullet that generates 18,300 cup for 1000+ fps.

You're right, this is probably more than the Taurus can handle.
I own a couple of Judges; great pistols and I'm sure they've been proofed but there's NO WAY I'd put even the hot .45 colt rounds thru them (the Buffalo Bore heavy standard pressure .45 is enough for me in this gun). Can't imagine something like the .454 in the UL verson -- KaBoom ?
 
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