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45 Colt / 410 Shot / 454 Casull - Why not interchangeable 3 ways?

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BFR and the Thunder 5 are chambered in 45 Colt/410 shotshell. As far as I know, all 454 Casull guns can fire 45 Colt as well.

So why is it that we don't see guns chambered for 410, 45 Colt, and 454 Casull all at once?
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The high velocity when hitting a forcing cone is a good point. However, the S&W 460 uses gain rifling, where it starts out straight and then starts to spin and increases twist. Suppose that's in order to keep the 454 Casull rounds from doing that in the longer chamber? And if so, would that possibly be a solution for a 410 version?

Of course with all the wadding typically in shotshells, a 410 short that's the length of the 460 Smith may be the way to go. Perhaps even make a 460 shot shell that's more than just rat shot, and that's loaded somewhere in between 460 and 410 pressures, whatever works best. Perhaps even design it not to spread too far due to the rifling.

I thought a while back that a levergun chambered for 410 and a similar length rifle cartridge would be great, and would also be able to take 454 or even just 45 Colt. But the practicality of the 410 in a heavy duty long gun that can also take 45 Colt isn't so much.
I believe a Taurus has a choke that tames the spread on shot,seems like I read about it.As I recall they fired the .45 Colt through it and it didnt blow up.I'll try to find the article.Hope someone else knows about it. sam.
Nope-

I believe a Taurus has a choke that tames the spread on shot,seems like I read about it.As I recall they fired the .45 Colt through it and it didnt blow up.I'll try to find the article.Hope someone else knows about it. sam.
No choke, just rifling...got one right here in the shop.
No choke, just rifling...got one right here in the shop.
Have 2 -- 3" bbl and 2 1/2" chamber. The shot spreads out quite rapidly -- covers silohette at about 30', maybe a little less. Buckshot 1 to 1.5 feet between pellets at 15 yds.

Mine shoots .45 colt pretty accurately -- 3" at 15 yds. Doesn't strike me as a strong gun like a Ruger hence the aversion to high pressure 45 colts.
Taurus 513SS6 (6" barrel, 6 rounds) takes all 3 (.454 Casull/.45 Colt/.410 bore) and price at $936USD as of today. They also got 3" barrel but I won't recommend since Colorado Departent of Wildlife prohibit hunting using less than 4" barrel handgun. Since its too big to be CCW anyway why not pick the one that allow you for one more use on top of car and home defance.
Can't the smith 460 shoot all 4 of these?
Can't shoot the 410 otherwise yes. I'm hoping a 454 version of the circuit judge shotgun/rifle carbine is in the works .... Think this would be an awesome multiple purpose short range gun.

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It seems they are doing that for the revolver pistols.

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Ya know...there ARE multi-ball loads one could do themselves for a .454...
Dunno if anyone commecially makes 'em.

That Raging Judge Magnum looks NIIIICCE :D

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I think it would be a cool gun. A Judge on steroids.
I want one!

The original thread is over 2.5 years old. Amazing what can be done in such a short time.
They're just hoping to find a market niche that is unfilled so they can sell enough guns to pay for the machinery used to make 'em and get a little profit.

Next someone will want one with two barrels, one being a single shot for whatever they chamber the center of the cylinder to fit, so they can blast the bear with buckshot and blow a hole clean through him at the same time.

With gun crazies like us, novelty will win over practicality every time!
I think that has been done...
I have heard that Taurus is coming out with a 45/410/454 gun built on their huge framed revolver, the one they call the Raging Bull frame.
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